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addictedtoprog
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Steven Wilson today announced his retirement from music...
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dr wu23
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Is it April 1st again already..?
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Blacksword
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Hundreds of Ukrainian troops flee to Russia for sanctuary..
Ukarine troops deserting.. Edited by Blacksword - August 04 2014 at 05:12 |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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King of Loss
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Maybe cause a Russian invasion is imminent and they are afraid... The West needs to be careful when poking the Russian bear....
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Blacksword
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^^^ An invasion is highly unlikely in my opinion. Conflicts these days are fought via proxy not face to face. If the seperatists find themselves overwhelmed by Kiev, Putin will drop them like a hot turd.
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King of Loss
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I don't know about that....I don't think NATO will intervene for Ukraine...... I think it's who presses the trigger first...
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akamaisondufromage
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Help me I'm falling!
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Dayvenkirq
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Equality 7-2521
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A police force is occupying and harassing a city like a foreign army. I'm not sure interesting would be the word.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
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They are also arresting reporters and people for horrible crimes like filming them. The cops, who look and act more like soldiers in war, continue to behave as if we lived in a literal police state.
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Dayvenkirq
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Edited by Dayvenkirq - August 14 2014 at 15:39 |
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The Doctor
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Apparently, King Crimson has a new 12,000 CD Starless and Bible Black box set coming out soon. Will probably only cost approximately the GDP of a small third world country. Should be exciting.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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King of Loss
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Dayvenkirq
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Caught this from Marc Maron on Twitter. This is something new to me: there are podcasts, and there's a company that wants money from podcasters, and there's Adam Carolla who wants a patent invalidated. What else do I have to know?
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Dayvenkirq
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Didn't know there's a difference between an activist group and a protest group in the case of Ferguson, MO (at least that's how Yahoo!News put it). Edited by Dayvenkirq - August 18 2014 at 22:53 |
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I am once again torn in regards to what to believe in a shooting death. I
can once again see both sides of the story being the truth. I am naive
enough to respect police officers and believe that they are doing their
job for the general good of the public. I tend to err on the side of
the law and believe that the police officer did shoot Michael Brown in
self-defense as he claims. As more news comes out, that the man had a
felony record; that he had just robbed a liquor/party store; that he had
marijuana in his system (although story is that is supposed to make you
more mellow instead of violent); it leads me to believe that the
officer's side of the story is the truth. That being said, I am also
left to wonder if the officer overreacted and if he let his ego lead him
to be a bully authority that caused the situation to escalate out of
control the way that it did. Was Michael Brown really charging him when
he shot him, or was he just pissed off because Michael Brown had sassed
him, disrespected him, and possibly punched him in the face before
fleeing? As the original news broke of the shooting, it didn't really
make sense to me that a police officer would shoot and kill an unarmed
man who offered to surrender. As more items come to light, the
officer's story does seem more credible to me, however, I suspect that
he may have made some poor split second decisions during the
altercation. It seems as though a more nonlethal approach should have
been taken. A shot to the leg to the leg maybe? I believe that
officers are trained to shoot for the center area though as it would be a
more stationary target than moving legs. I will be curious to see how
this unfolds. It is a shame that two lives will be forever ruined as a
result of the apparent bad decisions made by Michael Brown. He
certainly didn't deserve to die for the crimes that he allegedly
committed but if he did attack the officer and was charging the officer
than he certainly isn't blameless in his death.
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Dayvenkirq
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I still can't find an answer to whether a law enforcement officer can be arrested or even charged for shooting to kill an amped-up, though unarmed, teenager on duty in the state of Missouri. However, given what we know about the shooting, some punitive measures should be taken to bring down the madness out there. Police officers should never be exempt from any sort of punishment for senseless acts.
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The Doctor
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If it was indeed a senseless act or somehow borne out of racism or just general ill-will from the officer, then I agree he should be punished and should certainly not be exempt from punishment. However, if there were justification for the shooting, and there may well have been, he should not be punished simply to "bring down the madness out there". We should never allow our justice system to become a means of placating people who choose to riot. The justice system has just as much duty to exonerate the officer if he did nothing wrong as it does to see him locked away if he did do something wrong. As a last comment, I think the use of the term "unarmed" may be inappropriate in this case. This dude was massive and IF he was charging at the police officer when the officer shot, this kid was using his body as a weapon (a potentially lethal one at that). Of course, that is only if he was charging the officer. If he was not, or in any other way assaulting the officer, then yes, he was unarmed.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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akamaisondufromage
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Apparently, Police in St Louis have shot another 23 yr old black guy. He had a knife so obviously the only way out was to shoot him dead. Don't they just need to arrest the officer and then have an enquiry and then if there is evidence he goes to court. Simples. Edited by akamaisondufromage - August 19 2014 at 16:05 |
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Dayvenkirq
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Edited by Dayvenkirq - August 19 2014 at 16:18 |
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