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The Monodrone 
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 Posted: May 24 2010 at 22:16 |
 DT-PT wrote:
ptkc123 wrote:
boo boo wrote:
This is a question for everyone who voted for Labrie and I'm gonna put it as politely as I can.
Are you joking? |
I really hope they are... .. though I doubt it... what is PA coming to?  |
Hey, didn't you hear? People have different opinions then others and not everyone is gonna agree with you guys! God people can be so arrogant... |
That was a 100% joke on my part... I definitely respect opinions, they're what makes life interesting.
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digdug
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 10:16 |
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Wilson...... by far..... DT would be much better with a different singer
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Prog On!
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jampa17
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 13:34 |
boo boo wrote:
Lol at the irony of calling me closed minded for not understanding the appeal of a singer (despite NEVER saying people who like him have bad taste) and THEN telling me I have bad taste for my preferences.
Considering that 44 people voted for him, a LOT of people here have bad taste by your logic.
I have a strong anti DT bias I can't deny, so yes it is hard for me to understand the appeal of a band I find to be pretty rancid, I'm not insulting you or other DT fans so much as asking the appeal (and there was a more proper way of doing that then saying "are you joking?" I admit) because I really don't get it, though I appreciate that you gave your own explaination... not that it really helped.
Then again I can't understand people who enjoy music just for the technical prowess which is really the only thing DT offers or cares about as far as I'm concerned. Though it's unfair to say that nobody can get some kind of profound meaning or emotional resonnance from DT's music. But I sure can't find it or understand how people can. |
That's why I put a"  " and then a "Seriously" because I was joking... you don't know nothing about DT... so stay away of debate... really... you have agree that you hate them... so, why you get in here if you are already with fighting possition...? if you hear a song like Wither, Hollow Years, Space Dye Vest or Anna Lee and don't get the emotion... well.. then you don't know nothing about them...
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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rogerthat
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 14:10 |
jampa17 wrote:
if you hear a song like Wither, Hollow Years, Space Dye Vest or Anna Lee and don't get the emotion... well.. then you don't know nothing about them... |
Barring Space Dye Vest, I don't find any of these songs so emotionally stirring. Eh, yes, there's emoting, using the term scientifically, going on but it's not such that would satisfy me. It's a particular way of emoting that appeals to some people and doesn't to others. It doesn't mean that somebody who doesn't find these songs moving hasn't properly heard them. I am not going to use the precise adjectives that these kind of songs bring to mind for me, because that would only provoke more useless arguments.
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JLocke
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 14:15 |
LiquidEternity wrote:
Yeah, well, I've had a falling out with both bands these last few years. Wilson at his peak sounds much more organic than LaBrie, but the latter on the whole sounds better to me. I just think that since Wilson writes his own vocal melodies to perfectly coincide with his voice, he ends up sounding like all his songs fit him just right. But since LaBrie is not the only writer, he has to work hard at some of the melodies (or quaint nonmelodies, on occasion). If LaBrie were in such control of Dream Theater as Wilson is of Porcupine Tree, I think it would all sound better. Of course, I mean, if LaBrie were in such control of DT and had the melody-writing skills of Wilson...
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Wow. Never thought about it in this way, but that makes perfect sense.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 16:04 |
ptkc123 wrote:
DT-PT wrote:
ptkc123 wrote:
boo boo wrote:
This is a question for everyone who voted for Labrie and I'm gonna put it as politely as I can.
Are you joking? |
I really hope they are..... though I doubt it... what is PA coming to? |
Hey, didn't you hear? People have different opinions then others and not everyone is gonna agree with you guys! God people can be so arrogant... |
That was a 100% joke on my part... I definitely respect opinions, they're what makes life interesting. |
Oh. My apologies then.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 16:07 |
LiquidEternity wrote:
Yeah, well, I've had a falling out with both bands these last few years. Wilson at his peak sounds much more organic than LaBrie, but the latter on the whole sounds better to me. I just think that since Wilson writes his own vocal melodies to perfectly coincide with his voice, he ends up sounding like all his songs fit him just right. But since LaBrie is not the only writer, he has to work hard at some of the melodies (or quaint nonmelodies, on occasion). If LaBrie were in such control of Dream Theater as Wilson is of Porcupine Tree, I think it would all sound better. Of course, I mean, if LaBrie were in such control of DT and had the melody-writing skills of Wilson... |
A very valid point you made here. I never thought of it this way.
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ferush
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Posted: June 01 2010 at 13:32 |
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¿WHAT? THIS QUESTION IS A MISTAKE, OUT OF CONTEXT, DOESN'T EXIST ANSWER.
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Gandalfino
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Posted: June 25 2012 at 10:37 |
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Steven Wilson by far, although not unconditionally. He bores sometimes.
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 25 2012 at 11:28 |
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I like Steven Wilson more... he has never reached the same levels of annoyance LaBrie has. However, I do believe LaBrie is technically much better than Wilson (though LaBrie has been known to have some awful moments singing live), and when LaBrie doesn't sing reaching those awful high notes, he is very enjoyable too. On the other hand, I can't imagine Wilson trying to sing Dream Theater songs, it would just be wrong, and he would never be able to reach the notes (or at least, I seriously doubt he would ever reach them), while I belive LaBrie could make a beautiful job singing Wilson's songs (when he keeps himself singing softer vocals, he can be very good too).
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 25 2012 at 11:34 |
jampa17 wrote:
boo boo wrote:
Lol at the irony of calling me closed minded for not understanding the appeal of a singer (despite NEVER saying people who like him have bad taste) and THEN telling me I have bad taste for my preferences.
Considering that 44 people voted for him, a LOT of people here have bad taste by your logic.
I have a strong anti DT bias I can't deny, so yes it is hard for me to understand the appeal of a band I find to be pretty rancid, I'm not insulting you or other DT fans so much as asking the appeal (and there was a more proper way of doing that then saying "are you joking?" I admit) because I really don't get it, though I appreciate that you gave your own explaination... not that it really helped.
Then again I can't understand people who enjoy music just for the technical prowess which is really the only thing DT offers or cares about as far as I'm concerned. Though it's unfair to say that nobody can get some kind of profound meaning or emotional resonnance from DT's music. But I sure can't find it or understand how people can. |
That's why I put a" " and then a "Seriously" because I was joking... you don't know nothing about DT... so stay away of debate... really... you have agree that you hate them... so, why you get in here if you are already with fighting possition...? if you hear a song like Wither, Hollow Years, Space Dye Vest or Anna Lee and don't get the emotion... well.. then you don't know nothing about them... |
As far as I apreciate them, DT is much more than only technical prowess. I like their melodies, and that their songs aren't all linear. They have changes and so on, they have slow moments and faster moments, and often enough their slower moments are the most beautiful. Granted, sometimes I wish their faster "technical" moments were fewer and/or shorter... but only sometimes. Sometimes they are awsome too. And they do have their completley softer songs, though I must say they aren't my favourite ones, except for a few onea, like Space Dye Vest.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: June 25 2012 at 13:28 |
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Steven Wilson.
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This night wounds time.
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James LaBrie or Steven Wilson?
