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jampa17
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 18:20 |
ptkc123 wrote:
^ I still don't understand your comment about about Wilson not being a singer. He is a singer,man, whether you absoluely loathe him or not. |
Let me put this in another way...? are you a musician or you just play an instrument...?
apply the same for Steven Wilson...
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The Monodrone
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 18:17 |
^ I still don't understand your comment about about Wilson not being a singer. He is a singer,man, whether you absoluely loathe him or not.
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jampa17
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 18:07 |
boo boo wrote:
The T wrote:
boo boo wrote:
This is a question for everyone who voted for Labrie and I'm gonna put it as politely as I can.
Are you joking? |
Why? Can you explain why? Can you say it in actual musical or mathematical or scientific or any kind of FACTUAL terms that CAN'T be disputed? |
Why yes I can.
Well not really no, I'm a hyperbole machine but I guess a more polite way of putting it is I REALLY hate Dream Theater, the singer in particular.
I understand that everyone has the right to their opinion, in the same way people have the right to think Nickelback are a better band than The Beatles but that doesn't mean I can't laugh at the idea. |
You see... you can't even understand the value of debate and you come here asking for answers...
Well, the fact is that Labrie sings while Wilson speaks nice and soft near the mic... when he doesn't reaches more options for his songs he uses effects or plain boring phrases in a very depressive way... that's why Labrie is way more better...
you want more reasons...? guess what? how many contributions has Labrie done and been ask to work with...? while Wilson is invited when he is the producer or the arranger or he is involved with the compossition... he is not a hired for anyone who wants a good singer... while Labrie does it all the time, you know what? because he is a singer...
Now, we are not discussing the quality of the musicians, of course Wilson is a songwriter and Labrie doesn't... but as a singer... Labrie is a lot better... as easy as that...
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 18:00 |
boo boo wrote:
This is a question for everyone who voted for Labrie and I'm gonna put it as politely as I can.
Are you joking?
The lession here is that sometimes less is more, Wilson may not have a technically impressive voice but it suits the music perfectly while Labrie has the most irritating voice of any rock band I can think of that isn't from the Chad Kroeger school of whiny throat cancer vocals, I don't like DT anyway, not even for the instrumentals (which are bland beyond belief) but Labrie makes it pretty unbearable. |
So...because you don't like LaBrie...you're saying everybody who DID vote LaBrie must be joking...
Maybe you need a lesson on opinions.
Anyways, no vote. They are two of my favourite singers out there and it would pain me to vote against either of them.
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boo boo
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 17:54 |
The T wrote:
boo boo wrote:
This is a question for everyone who voted for Labrie and I'm gonna put it as politely as I can.
Are you joking? |
Why? Can you explain why? Can you say it in actual musical or mathematical or scientific or any kind of FACTUAL terms that CAN'T be disputed? |
Why yes I can.
Well not really no, I'm a hyperbole machine but I guess a more polite way of putting it is I REALLY hate Dream Theater, the singer in particular.
I understand that everyone has the right to their opinion, in the same way people have the right to think Nickelback are a better band than The Beatles but that doesn't mean I can't laugh at the idea.
Edited by boo boo - May 24 2010 at 17:56
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The T
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 17:37 |
As a singer, 1000 times for Labrie, who can sing melodies much better than Wilson, who in general is a better singer than Wilson. Obviously, as a musician, Wilson has the advantage, since he's an instrumentalist, writer and arranger (and producer).
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The Monodrone
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 17:36 |
boo boo wrote:
This is a question for everyone who voted for Labrie and I'm gonna put it as politely as I can.
Are you joking? |
I really hope they are... .. though I doubt it... what is PA coming to?
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The T
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 17:36 |
boo boo wrote:
This is a question for everyone who voted for Labrie and I'm gonna put it as politely as I can.
Are you joking? |
Why? Can you explain why? Can you say it in actual musical or mathematical or scientific or any kind of FACTUAL terms that CAN'T be disputed?
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boo boo
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 17:32 |
This is a question for everyone who voted for Labrie and I'm gonna put it as politely as I can.
Are you joking?
The lession here is that sometimes less is more, Wilson may not have a technically impressive voice but it suits the music perfectly while Labrie has the most irritating voice of any rock band I can think of that isn't from the Chad Kroeger school of whiny throat cancer vocals, I don't like DT anyway, not even for the instrumentals (which are bland beyond belief) but Labrie makes it pretty unbearable.
Edited by boo boo - May 24 2010 at 17:39
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The Monodrone
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 17:22 |
jampa17 wrote:
Labrie... because he is a singer... and Wilson isn't... and as someone said, Labries has to adapt himself to the ideas of somebody else... and he has succeeded in most everything he has done, like The Mullmuzzler, Ayreon, True Symphonic Orchestra, Explorers Club, Roswell Six and DT, of course... so... Labrie.. |
What, just because Wilson hasn't taken singing lessons (and maybe he has, I don't know), he's not a singer? What about the countless wonderful untrained guitarists and musicians (of which there are many of on this site)? Are they not musicians because they haven't taken lessons? I'm not sure what that statement meant...
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jampa17
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 14:11 |
Labrie... because he is a singer... and Wilson isn't... and as someone said, Labries has to adapt himself to the ideas of somebody else... and he has succeeded in most everything he has done, like The Mullmuzzler, Ayreon, True Symphonic Orchestra, Explorers Club, Roswell Six and DT, of course... so... Labrie..
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 06:49 |
Clearly, LaBrie is easily the best technically. However, SW's voice is just perfect for PT.
If there's been a better case of fence-sitting recently, I'm yet to see it .
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poslednijat_colobar
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 06:38 |
James LaBrie
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progkidjoel
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 04:34 |
Epignosis wrote:
LaBrie is technically the better singer, but I much prefer Wilson's voice.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 03:04 |
Wilson wins for me. His singing, songwriting, and musicianship are all great, IMO. I sometimes think I'm listening to a different band to other people.
I actually think Labrie is pretty great when he puts his mind to it. When he's good, he's very good. He needs to know when to hold back sometimes, but in general he's a very talented singer.
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Stooge
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Posted: May 23 2010 at 21:27 |
I prefer the sound of Wilson's voice, but LaBrie is technically the more gifted singer.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: May 23 2010 at 21:06 |
neither of them is superb
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 23 2010 at 20:36 |
LaBrie is technically the better singer, but I much prefer Wilson's voice.
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: May 23 2010 at 19:06 |
Steven Wilson has a very "90s" voice, almost Alternative in a way.
JLB has a very "80s" voice, almost torture in a way.
Steven it is.
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The Monodrone
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Posted: May 23 2010 at 19:04 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Ok...this is a bit better poll than the drumming one.......
I picked LaBrie, cause I believe he has better range than Steve. Maybe Steve does, but it never comes out on his recordings......A lot of his vocals are in a small pitch range..But it works for PT style of music. |
But do you like LaBrie more?.. or do you think he has more skill than Wilson? The poll is based on preference, not skill.
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