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    Posted: April 27 2011 at 10:15
So I'm combing through some youtube and such watching guitarists and saw the version of Stevie Ray Vaughn's "Riviera Paradise" he performed the night of his death. The talent and soul in that player was just unfair. A true artist.
 
Earlier in the day I had heard, for the first time, one of the songs off Metallica's Death Magnetic "My Apocalypse" Kirk Hammett may well be the most talentless hack to ever grace major stages. I was thinking to myself that every one of Megadeth's guitarists could probably play Hammett's solos note-for-note after one listening, with more authentic emotion.
 
 
 
So give me first a musician whose talent just floors you, otherworldly.
 
And then a musician who just mystifies in its crappitude.
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 14:24
In the rock world: Terry Bozzio (talent) - Mike Pointer (opposite)

I'll come up with more names later

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 14:26
I agree about Kirk Hammett. Never rated him at all and his solos have always left me cold.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 14:55
Awesome:

Drums- Neil Peart
Bass- Victor Wooten
Guitar- Steve Howe
Keyboards- Rick Wakeman
Compositions- Kerry Livgren

Terrible:

All of the Above- Simon Railton
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 14:59
Also, I want to take this moment to complain about Mike Oldfield. 

Not his playing, but his tone.  He has to have the worst electric guitar tone I've ever heard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:00
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Also, I want to take this moment to complain about Mike Oldfield. 

Not his playing, but his tone.  He has to have the worst electric guitar tone I've ever heard.

Utter nonsense. His tone is superb and definitive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:05
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Awesome:

Drums- Neil Peart
Bass- Victor Wooten
Guitar- Steve Howe
Keyboards- Rick Wakeman
Compositions- Kerry Livgren

Terrible:

All of the Above- Simon Railton


That's too easy. LOL

And Wakeman is pretty much second to Richard Clyderman, so I think whatever talent we're talking about, it went the drain, in the last 30 years at least.


Edited by Ricochet - April 27 2011 at 15:06
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:06
Vocals:

Talented - Russell Allen.
Good - Peter Gabriel
Bad - Jon Anderson

Horrible at everything - Zappa
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:16
Christina Aguilera = talented singer who not only are compareable to her pairs (Britney, Shakira, Gwen Stefani and Jessica Simpson), but are compareable also to the most tallented female singers and divas)
 
Britney Spears = she got the looks and some mooves but have a average potensial can not be compared to the great vocal talants like Straisand, Warwick, Ross, Dion and Huoston. Aguilera can raise here head and compare herself to the elite divas.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:21
Although on the biggest stage of her life, Christina Aguilera can't remember the words to the Star-Spangled Banner.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:29
She was showing her age a tad too...the sad life of eye candy. Glad I'm so unpleasant to look at. I digress to the norm with age.
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 15:29
^and it was not the forgetting of the lyrics what made that performance atrocious...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 16:03
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Also, I want to take this moment to complain about Mike Oldfield. 

Not his playing, but his tone.  He has to have the worst electric guitar tone I've ever heard.

Utter nonsense. His tone is superb and definitive.


I cannot listen to an Oldfield album with headphones.  His tone is tinny and causes me pain.  Worst ever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 18:09
I'm and Oldfield fan and all of y'all are full of crap. LOL
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 20:30

Unbelievable talent:

Guitar: Shawn Lane
Drums: Tony Royster Jr.

Not bad, I just dont get the attraction:
Geddy Lee

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 21:08
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Also, I want to take this moment to complain about Mike Oldfield. 

Not his playing, but his tone.  He has to have the worst electric guitar tone I've ever heard.


His tone on Songs from a Distant Earth is wondrous.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 21:23

Could never decide on one truly amazing artist (I'm way to easily impressed I guess. LOL) but the crappy one for me would definitely be this.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 21:40
Agree about SRV-- I think he came off to many as just some modern blues player or Albert King/Hendrix imitator.  But live, especially in his drunken heyday during the early 80s, he was incredible, probably the greatest white bluesman ever.  I also have to agree about Hammett, low on skill and taste, high on bluff.

As for pop stars, Pink has tremendous talent, great voice and a real edge to her music.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2011 at 21:49
Oh, it's in the general music forum!

Talented:
John Coltrane
Pharoah Sanders

Worst piece of crap ever to blow into a saxophone:
Kenny G
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2011 at 03:50
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Also, I want to take this moment to complain about Mike Oldfield. 

Not his playing, but his tone.  He has to have the worst electric guitar tone I've ever heard.


His tone on Songs from a Distant Earth is wondrous.
His tone varies a bit, though he basically uses two main tones, both processed through a Roland GP-8 DI straight into the sound board - in the early days the clean tone was a little thin and treblie, which sort of became his tradermark for a while.
 
I prefer him as a bassist.
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