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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:32
Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

Ouch!Ouch I didn't think that my orginal post would have create such reaction, so quickly. Mike's is getting beating up pretty badly here, i hope he doesn't read too much in this forum...Wink


You think this thread is bad, the one at Mike's own forum was horrible, and got taken down after not too long. The thread over at DTF is pretty bad too http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=27998.0
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:43
The best part is that he asks for damages to be awarded in addition to the injunction. That's just too much bro. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 14:51
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

The best part is that he asks for damages to be awarded in addition to the injunction. That's just too much bro. 


Yes, the damages to his EGO... I don't know how they calculate this kind of damages...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 15:17
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163514


There is no pending lawsuit.


Mike is happy that we can all calm down! Why this document went public?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 15:20
Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163514


There is no pending lawsuit.


Mike is happy that we can all calm down! Why this document went public?


Someone at Blabbermouth that doesn't like MP perhaps? If what I've read is correct, they were the ones who opted to spread this one to the world.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 15:39
Originally posted by Mike Portnoy Mike Portnoy wrote:

I did NOT sue them....and second of all, I DESPERATELY tried to discuss matters with them personally to avoid ANYTHING LIKE THIS and yet THEY insisted on only using lawyers...so my lawyers filed those papers (BACK IN APRIL mind you) as that was the position they chose to take...if the band wouldve talked to me, it wouldve NEVER come to that!!! 


Of course, MP can never do anything wrong. It sorta annoys me when he tries to act a victim in every situation.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 15:42
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 16:24
 
Originally posted by Windhawk Windhawk wrote:

Someone at Blabbermouth that doesn't like MP perhaps? If what I've read is correct, they were the ones who opted to spread this one to the world.

That's ridiculous. The document was made public by a third party, and they had just as much information as we did at the time. All they did was summarize the document, it's not their fault that everyone on the internet got out their jump to conclusions mat. Although I'm personally still unsure about the true situation, and why didn't Mike say that there is no pending litigation right away instead of being coy?
 
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And I am sure you can find their home address on the internet somehow....if u felt the need.

Yeah, it's public records, I don't see the big deal. The Dream Theater forums may block the PDF, but I'd like to think we're less fascist at PA. ;-)  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 16:41
Enough already! Bored now...Nuff said!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 16:44
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 
Of course, MP can never do anything wrong. It sorta annoys me when he tries to act a victim in every situation.

It sorta annoys me how people are acting like he's Dr. Evil all the sudden. How come he can't say anything bad, but the band can? How come people are acting like they know the full story? Really do people feel the band's livelihood hinges on unquestionably praising the new album and bashing MP? Plus weren't you like, "Portnoy is ta greatest ever" not too long ago? Now that Mangini is in the band he's all the sudden "better than Portnoy"? Well he may be technically, but news flash: they tried their hardest to make him sound like Portnoy on ADToE. 

I'm sure most of you would act similarly if put in the same situation as the guy, so relax a bit and put down the pitchforks. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:03
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by Windhawk Windhawk wrote:

Someone at Blabbermouth that doesn't like MP perhaps? If what I've read is correct, they were the ones who opted to spread this one to the world.
That's ridiculous. The document was made public by a third party, and they had just as much information as we did at the time. All they did was summarize the document, it's not their fault that everyone on the internet got out their jump to conclusions mat. Although I'm personally still unsure about the true situation, and why didn't Mike say that there is no pending litigation right away instead of being coy?
 
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

And I am sure you can find their home address on the internet somehow....if u felt the need.
Yeah, it's public records, I don't see the big deal. The Dream Theater forums may block the PDF, but I'd like to think we're less fascist at PA. ;-)
 

Describing mundane actions like those taken on a messageboard as "fascist" is just fatuous. And infantile.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:04
Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 
Of course, MP can never do anything wrong. It sorta annoys me when he tries to act a victim in every situation.

It sorta annoys me how people are acting like he's Dr. Evil all the sudden. How come he can't say anything bad, but the band can? How come people are acting like they know the full story? Really do people feel the band's livelihood hinges on unquestionably praising the new album and bashing MP? Plus weren't you like, "Portnoy is ta greatest ever" not too long ago? Now that Mangini is in the band he's all the sudden "better than Portnoy"? Well he may be technically, but news flash: they tried their hardest to make him sound like Portnoy on ADToE. 

I'm sure most of you would act similarly if put in the same situation as the guy, so relax a bit and put down the pitchforks. 

I'm sorry, but you seem to have a gigantic MP bias. He's been a real a****le throughout this whole situation and deserves the flak. He's constantly playing the victim when he brings things upon himself. And about the band saying bad things about him, wow you're really trying hard to even the playing field with this one. MP himself admits that he wants to be the center of attention often. LaBrie said it as well, and it does detract from the bigger picture. Is it the bands fault that he's like this? No. Is it MPs fault he's in this situation? Yes.

Now about me loving Portnoy, I still do love his drumming and he is still amongst my favourite drummers, but I actually preferred Mangini on this album. And yeah I'll admit, he sounded like Portnoy on the album a bit, but I found Mangini showed more skill in the harder spots. Besides, John wrote all the drum parts ahead of time, so you'd think John would be used to playing with MP for 25 years and sort of gets his drumming style in his head. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:04
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:23
I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:29
I do not agree with Portony, but I at least try to remain respectful about it. But calling him a fag? Really? Not even he deserves that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:30
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful


Wow, what an unintelligent post.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:35
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful


Wow, what an unintelligent post.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:38
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 
I'm sorry, but you seem to have a gigantic MP bias. He's been a real a****le throughout this whole situation and deserves the flak. He's constantly playing the victim when he brings things upon himself. And about the band saying bad things about him, wow you're really trying hard to even the playing field with this one. MP himself admits that he wants to be the center of attention often. LaBrie said it as well, and it does detract from the bigger picture. Is it the bands fault that he's like this? No. Is it MPs fault he's in this situation? Yes.

Now about me loving Portnoy, I still do love his drumming and he is still amongst my favourite drummers, but I actually preferred Mangini on this album. And yeah I'll admit, he sounded like Portnoy on the album a bit, but I found Mangini showed more skill in the harder spots. Besides, John wrote all the drum parts ahead of time, so you'd think John would be used to playing with MP for 25 years and sort of gets his drumming style in his head. 

Dude, I've been ragging on Portnoy for his stage antics and tough guy vocals for years. You guys however are taking it to a whole new level by attacking his character. Look how eagerly everyone was to jump to conclusions in this thread as it was. I'm sure any attorney for someone as high profile as MP would have filed a claim like this regardless of whether MP meant to go through with it or not. No different than Petrucci's lawyer stepping in to contact MP. All I'm trying to say is, no one is exactly smelling like roses at this point, nor does anyone but the band have all the facts and even for them I'm sure it's distorted. But I guess you can't stop people from being keyboard warriors...

Any good drummer will tell you it's all about groove. You on the other hand like to talk about speed this and that. Also people like to bring up the linear fills starting on the octobans down that Mike constantly used, but they made Mangini do plenty of that as well. When it comes down to it I remember the solid grooves on tracks like Blind Faith, but can't remember jack squat of what MM played on ADToE after six or so solid listens. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 17:39
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful


Wow, what an unintelligent post.


Don't forget he went to Berklee..... Ermm
I read somewhere that he didn't actually write any of the music in DT

He wrote quite a bit.
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