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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11350
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72753

Please help me understand why this is NOT a duplication, in my book and experience from before it's duplication, I posted a bunch of albums years ago by "White Willow" all were remixed... bla bla and also had a complete different cover and they were taken down as duplication! Steven Wilson is remixing many albums by many bands in the last few years so should we post all of those remixed albums as new studio albums? many bands that never had Vinyl are going into their back-catalogue and are bringing them back in vinyl all remixed... I hope you see the point I'm making! (I can't forget the takedown of all my work on "White Willow")
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^ I guess it's because 2021 version is partially re-recorded. 
Perhaps Julien can add some more explanations.
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Just noticed that the track numbers were not correctly placed on An Evening of Yes Music Plus in addition to Starship Trooper being in the incorrect place. Also, I've Seen All Good People, which was not present on first CD release as well, seems to not have been added to the tracklist at all.

1. Benjamins Britten's Young Persons Guide to the Orchestra (1:19)
2. Jon Anderson Solo - Time and a World / Owner Of A Lonely Heart / Teakbois (7:02)
3. Steve Howe Solo - The Clap / Mood for a Day (8:54)
4. Rick Wakeman Solo - Gone but Not Forgotten / Catherine Parr / Merlin the Magician (5:16)
5. Long Distance Runaround (7:08)
6. Birthright (6:23)
7. And You and I (9:40)
8. I've Seen All Good People (9:14)
9. Close to the Edge (18:19)
10. Themes (i. Sound ii. Second Attention iii. Soul Warrior) (6:34)
11. Brother of Mine (10:08)
12. Heart of the Sunrise (10:35)
13. Order of the Universe (9:05)
14. Roundabout (8:22)
15. Starship Trooper (12:52)

Total Time 130:51

Reference - https://open.spotify.com/album/5VkJnfONLgtrXNksuDd2fh?si=uWTMu4fLQaKGohrY2AZYlA


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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11350
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72753

Please help me understand why this is NOT a duplication, in my book and experience from before it's duplication, I posted a bunch of albums years ago by "White Willow" all were remixed... bla bla and also had a complete different cover and they were taken down as duplication! Steven Wilson is remixing many albums by many bands in the last few years so should we post all of those remixed albums as new studio albums? many bands that never had Vinyl are going into their back-catalogue and are bringing them back in vinyl all remixed... I hope you see the point I'm making! (I can't forget the takedown of all my work on "White Willow")
Hi Mayer,

White Willow's reissues are strictly "reissues". I'm a BIG fan of this band, but there's nothing new about these reissues, except bonus tracks, and new cover art.

I don't know Poor Genetic Material, but I read here that the 15th anniversary edition features newly recorded tracks and different tracklist for LP version.

So I think it deserves separate entries. No hard feelings, though. Wink
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Originally posted by Prog Zone Prog Zone wrote:

Just noticed that the track numbers were not correctly placed on An Evening of Yes Music Plus in addition to Starship Trooper being in the incorrect place. Also, I've Seen All Good People, which was not present on first CD release as well, seems to not have been added to the tracklist at all.

1. Benjamins Britten's Young Persons Guide to the Orchestra (1:19)
2. Jon Anderson Solo - Time and a World / Owner Of A Lonely Heart / Teakbois (7:02)
3. Steve Howe Solo - The Clap / Mood for a Day (8:54)
4. Rick Wakeman Solo - Gone but Not Forgotten / Catherine Parr / Merlin the Magician (5:16)
5. Long Distance Runaround (7:08)
6. Birthright (6:23)
7. And You and I (9:40)
8. I've Seen All Good People (9:14)
9. Close to the Edge (18:19)
10. Themes (i. Sound ii. Second Attention iii. Soul Warrior) (6:34)
11. Brother of Mine (10:08)
12. Heart of the Sunrise (10:35)
13. Order of the Universe (9:05)
14. Roundabout (8:22)
15. Starship Trooper (12:52)

Total Time 130:51

Reference - https://open.spotify.com/album/5VkJnfONLgtrXNksuDd2fh?si=uWTMu4fLQaKGohrY2AZYlA
My corrections were made about the original releases (1993 & 1994). I've just added the 2006 reissue tracklisting. Hope it's clearer now. Wink
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Thanks for explaining the change! Also, I have to point out the misspelling of Long Distance Runaround which reads "Lond Distance Runaround" currently on An Evening of Yes Music Plus. 
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^ Oops, sorry and thanks!
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72762
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72763

Duplication Julien you did it maybe at the same time that I did it, by the way the band are now called NMB
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=47487
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52964
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=60605
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72762

According to them the name of the band was The Neal Morse Band and just was changed to NMB so those 4 albums should be separated from Neal Morse's page and have their own page here on PA 
The Neal Morse Band/NMB 
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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72762
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72763

Duplication Julien you did it maybe at the same time that I did it, by the way the band are now called NMB

Oops, we did it again... Embarrassed (Oh, Britney Spears reference? or maybe NMB reference, with their new track "Do It All Again")

Anyway, I've already ask admins to kill my entry.
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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=47487
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52964
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=60605
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72762

According to them the name of the band was The Neal Morse Band and just was changed to NMB so those 4 albums should be separated from Neal Morse's page and have their own page here on PA 
The Neal Morse Band/NMB 
This is strange, why change their name to NMB (cf. their latest press release) and still show "The Neal Morse Band" of the new album's cover?
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^ What do you think about it, Eugene?

Maybe Mayor could contact the Symphonic Prog team?
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^ I think if "The Neal Morse Band" is on every cover we should keep it. No need to disturb Sympho guys, they have lots of things to do without us. Smile
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64

The last song on this album is a Japanese bonus track and it should probably be noted separately, with the total time being listed without it.
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King Kong by Jean-Luc Ponty is listed as being released in 1969, but Wikipedia, Discogs, Allmusic and Rateyourmusic all list it as being released in 1970, and only recorded in 1969.
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When looking over Yes's album Talk on this website, I noticed that the credits were placed next to the individual songs which seems somewhat out of place. If anything, I believe it would fit better if it was placed in the Releases information section. Thanks!
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

King Kong by Jean-Luc Ponty is listed as being released in 1969, but Wikipedia, Discogs, Allmusic and Rateyourmusic all list it as being released in 1970, and only recorded in 1969.
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Originally posted by Prog Zone Prog Zone wrote:

When looking over Yes's album Talk on this website, I noticed that the credits were placed next to the individual songs which seems somewhat out of place. If anything, I believe it would fit better if it was placed in the Releases information section. Thanks!
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2155: track 7 could become "shutDOWN" (source), if that's not too nitpicky.


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