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SquonkHunter
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 22 2013 Location: Texas, by God! Status: Offline Points: 334 |
Topic: Simple statistics, misconceptions disproved. Posted: March 15 2013 at 06:35 |
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Growing up in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area in the early 70s, Bloodrock was a huge local favorite. Always nice to see hometown boys make good. |
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"You never had the things you thought you should have had and you'll not get them now..."
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Stool Man
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Posted: February 26 2013 at 11:41 | |||
Imaginary scenario:
How progressive rock might have developed without including the UK's bands (let's say, for example, that all the UK's psychedelic bands moved on to country rock by 1969, just like the US ones did) 1960s: Miles Davis, Frank Zappa & Brian Wilson inspire a generation of US prog bands. Daevid Allen, Konny Plank, & Christian Vander inspire a generation of European bands 1970s: Jazz/Fusion rules in the US Everyone else flies away to Planet Gong. Which is pretty much what happened anyway! |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 13:23 | |||
One more thing
Check how many bands claim to be influenced by Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull or ELP. I calculate around 90%, if not more. Now tell me, ¿How many bands claim to have been influenced by bands from other nations? The percentage will be incredibly smaller |
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Tapfret
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 13:14 | |||
Huger? That better not be a jab at our weight. Don't make us try to get up off this couch! Edited by Tapfret - January 11 2013 at 13:15 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 12:48 | |||
Let me see:
Iván PD: Just in case I have heard at least one album of each and every band listed in Symphonic Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 11 2013 at 12:51 |
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Sumdeus
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Posted: December 20 2012 at 03:55 | |||
I don't really care about how technically proficient musicians are at playing their instruments if I find their music completely boring. To me bands like The Doors were just as proficient in the context of their time and were much more inventive and revolutionary with their music.
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Dean
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Posted: December 20 2012 at 02:47 | |||
How do you measure skill and musicianship and is that really an indication of "the greatest band in America"?
I would imagine popularity and influence are far more important.
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What?
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progbethyname
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Posted: December 20 2012 at 01:50 | |||
Fine, but do any of those bands come close to the sheer skill and musicianship of Dream Theater?? No freakin' way. Boston is pretty awesome, but not Dream Theater awesome. |
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progbethyname
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Posted: December 19 2012 at 11:41 | |||
Oh Dire Straights is great. Love the album BROTHERS IN ARMS. Mark Knopler is an incredible guitarist and a very accomplished one at that. :) |
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moshkito
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Posted: December 19 2012 at 08:08 | |||
Shhhhhhhh!!!!!
We can not name half known and unknown American bands no one has ever heard ... specially if they came out of the Fillmore and Monterey days ...
Of course, you're right ... but then ... even mentioning Al Kooper or Paul Butterfield, Sugar Loaf, Ides of March, (heaven forbid!) Mason Profit ... and many others, around here, sends shivers up the progressive spine! And I haven't started on the SF scene, which was bigger than the midwest scene ... but I could add Sons of Champlin!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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thellama73
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Posted: December 17 2012 at 09:17 | |||
Ah, that is a good point. They are pretty great. |
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: December 17 2012 at 05:38 | |||
I don't actually care what sells how much, it was merely a very silly joke. I will happily continue to listen to and buy both 'pop' and 'prog' music, whatever that means.
I think there is, but there's no way I would ever agree. Not as long as there are such tremendous bands as the Doors, CSN and ZZ Top. Edited by HarbouringTheSoul - December 17 2012 at 05:38 |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 17 2012 at 04:16 | |||
Didn't anyone say Blue Oyster Cult?
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Dean
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Posted: December 17 2012 at 03:47 | |||
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What?
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Sumdeus
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 23 2012 Location: SF Bay Area Status: Offline Points: 831 |
Posted: December 17 2012 at 03:17 | |||
I think there's no way anyone could seriously say Dream Theater are the greatest American band.
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octopus-4
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Posted: December 17 2012 at 00:38 | |||
I see them as proto for their last albums. Unfortunately Kansas sold probably less than DT but I don't know the statistics. Effectively, thinking to top selling American prog there's not very much to mention.
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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progbethyname
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Posted: December 17 2012 at 00:36 | |||
Blue Cheer are one of the pioneers of the hard rock/metal genre itself!! I have a ton of respect for them. |
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progbethyname
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Posted: December 17 2012 at 00:34 | |||
Not prog. |
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progbethyname
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Posted: December 17 2012 at 00:33 | |||
Killing me won't change why pop sells so much more than prog. I know you wish it was that simple, but it isn't. Also, let's be clear I DON'T LIKE THIS FACT AT ALL! Wish it weren't true. |
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octopus-4
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Posted: December 17 2012 at 00:31 | |||
Million albums? Beach Boys.
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