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Poll Question: What's your favourite Prog song over 10 minutes, released in 2012?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
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6 [13.95%]
1 [2.33%]
2 [4.65%]
0 [0.00%]
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1 [2.33%]
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4 [9.30%]
3 [6.98%]
0 [0.00%]
1 [2.33%]
0 [0.00%]
4 [9.30%]
9 [20.93%]
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    Posted: January 09 2013 at 14:25
Originally posted by Kati

Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad

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Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
If you really believe that Oldfield ever made some Epics, then believe. For others, let it be instrumental compositions.
Gandalf, your perception of Epic is quite right in terms of meaning something historic, special, most memorable and written inc. poetry, however I believe other members above are right too, it depends on the context I suppose because EPIC is derived from the Latin word Epicus and Greek word Epikos which means speech, written, song/music. Epic is something remarkable, highlight/ happening, instrumentals too can take us back in time, become most memorable, sometimes even more so than lyrics.   
 

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Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad

Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
If you really believe that Oldfield ever made some Epics, then believe. For others, let it be instrumental compositions.
Gandalf, your perception of Epic is quite right in terms of meaning something historic, special, most memorable and written inc. poetry, however I believe other members above are right too, it depends on the context I suppose because EPIC is derived from the Latin word Epicus and Greek word Epikos which means speech, written, song/music. Epic is something remarkable, highlight/ happening, instrumentals too can take us back in time, become most memorable, sometimes even more so than lyrics.   
 

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Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad

Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
If you really believe that Oldfield ever made some Epics, then believe. For others, let it be instrumental compositions.

Edited by Gandalff - December 11 2012 at 01:43
A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad

Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad

Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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"Daddy F***ing Loves You" by Headspace.  After reading what it was about in an interview, it makes me tear up now.  But I loved it even before then.
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Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
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BTBAM for sure. I'm a bit of a fanboy

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BTBAM! The new album is fantastic. 
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak

I have to say that I am quite surprised at the glaringly missing "epics" from this list:  I AND THOU's "And I Awaken," KOTEBEL's "Concerto for Piano and Electric Ensemble," THE TEA CLUB's "Firebears,"  MYSTERY's "Another Day," BATTLESTATION's "Prologue: Nature's Morte/You're Not Welcome Here," and NO ANGLAGARD, ASTRA, DIAGONAL or THINKING PLAGUE! These are from 2012! They are incredible! 


Please read properly my criteria. Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard. Some of them didn't get sufficient average rating value (4.00).
 
I didn't want  to exclude purposely any track. But if I would haven't set any criteria, I would have to create a multi-round voting. And I just didn't want to do it.
A Elbereth Gilthoniel
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o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
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BTBAM for sure. I'm a bit of a fanboy
I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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Voted for Island from this selection
 
My top epics this year (with no rules):
 
Marillion - Gaza
Echolyn - Island
Presto Ballet - Relic of the modern world (back on form for me)
Landmarq - Calm before the storm
 
 
 
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^ I think the definition of 'epic' would be 15 minutes plus in my book although admittedly the OP offered no guidelines on this.
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I have to say that I am quite surprised at the glaringly missing "epics" from this list:  I AND THOU's "And I Awaken," KOTEBEL's "Concerto for Piano and Electric Ensemble," THE TEA CLUB's "Firebears,"  MYSTERY's "Another Day," BATTLESTATION's "Prologue: Nature's Morte/You're Not Welcome Here," and NO ANGLAGARD, ASTRA, DIAGONAL or THINKING PLAGUE! These are from 2012! They are incredible! 
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 The Crush of Night . by IZZ
 Turn Away  by IOEarth
 Utopia by Utopia
 
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"World Without End" by Neal Morse
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Can - Graublau or anything from Electric Orange's new album XX for me. 
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Presto Ballet - Relic Of The Modern World (19.12)
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