Admin changes - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Author

Message

Topic Search

Topic Options

Vibrationbaby View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: February 13 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 6898

Topic: Admin changes
Posted: June 05 2013 at 13:25

Mabye I can start a thread called F-35 vs Ford Edsel

Edited by Vibrationbaby - June 05 2013 at 13:29

Dean

Special Collaborator

Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575

Posted: June 05 2013 at 10:44

Vibrationbaby wrote:

He just decided to move into the 21st century although he still thinks that this piece of junk and waste of time & money.

That's because it probably is. When the USA starts running around the world cap-in-hand for funding of an airframe that will be outdated before it lifts off the tarmac you just know it's going to be a turkey.

What?

Vibrationbaby View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: February 13 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 6898

Posted: June 05 2013 at 10:05

It is the real Ian man.

He just decided to move into the 21st century although he still thinks that this piece of junk and waste of time & money.

Edited by Vibrationbaby - June 05 2013 at 10:07

Dean

Special Collaborator

Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575

Posted: June 03 2013 at 18:59

'kin'ell! Ian's learnt how to post images!

hey... wait a minute - who are you and what have you done with the real Ian?

What?

Atavachron View Drop Down

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Online
Points: 64353

Posted: June 03 2013 at 18:54

Edited by Atavachron - June 03 2013 at 18:55

Vibrationbaby View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: February 13 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 6898

Posted: June 03 2013 at 18:48

Edited by Vibrationbaby - June 03 2013 at 18:51

Dean

Special Collaborator

Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575

Posted: June 03 2013 at 18:43

Vibrationbaby wrote:

aapatsos wrote:

Vibrationbaby wrote:

Case in point. The site has just gone to the dogs and nobody seems to care anymore. I've committed a lot of my time in the past writing reviews, updating biographies and contacting artists for information that otherwise would not be available. I just think it was a freaking waste. All this guy can offer is a childish response to my concerns? I dunno man.

Not sure if your response refers to me but that does not really matter.
There are tenths or even hundreds of people committing a lot of time on this website.

Maybe some of them feel they are wasting/have wasted their time, some not.
Rather than expressing your concerns (which can be valid if you could really explain what you are talking about) how about suggesting what needs to be changed, if you care of course. If not, why bother making the statement at all?

I was referring to the guy who misspelled the word " semen". My point is that this ranking system has just got out of control. It's confusing and misleading at the same time. Same goes for all the made up genres. I've had quite a few people have a look at the site over the years &monthsincluding musicians and a cousin who was involved in the music industry back in the seventies & eighties. He just said that it was a cheesy site. Not much else. Guys & gals it's just a music site not repairing the optics on the curiousity Mars lander from 62 million km away. I wish we could just get back to basics here. Right now I have to get back to my aeroplane!

I suppose we could make the ranking system a lot simpler for those who find that counting up to five to be so confusing, but where would be the fun in that if we could not deliberately confuse and mislead? Of course that does raise the question of how much simpler can it possible get before it becomes just "us and them" with no one really sure whether they are with us or with them until it occurs that we are all our own "us" and everyone else's "them".

And frankly, the view from 5-stars isn't that great, and certainly is a long way from premier cru and caviar. Normally voluntary work has it's own reward, the self-recognition of a job well-done even if no one else notices (if you're looking for a pat on the back for every little thing you do around here then you've come to the wrong place). But speaking as an Admin, apart from handing out an extra star to someone who has yet to become cynical and jaded, there is no pleasure to be had in any of the tasks we undertake.

Sure this site is a cheesy little site, I for one would not want it any other way, and I certainly wouldn't work for free on a site that was more professional and less cheesy. That's what makes it a fan site (even if someone is profiting from the advertising revenue), that fact that all contributions are welcome, regardless of how well written they are.

Hell, I'd much rather read about what a fan thought of the music he was actually listening to than read some by-the-numbers review on a more polished site that is more interested in how smart the reviewer can present himself and his shallow opinion in prosaic cursive script than they are in the actual substance of the music. I've lost count of how many "professional" reviews I've read that look more like paid advertising copy, or worse still, barely mention the album at all in seveal paragraphs of text.

As you say, it's just a music site and I'll add that it is one where in the music the substance is more important than the style.

What?

Atavachron View Drop Down

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Online
Points: 64353

Posted: June 03 2013 at 18:13

^ Cheesy sells

Vibrationbaby View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: February 13 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 6898

Posted: June 03 2013 at 15:54

aapatsos wrote:

Chris S

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: June 09 2004
Location: Front Range
Status: Offline
Points: 7028

Posted: May 30 2013 at 22:05

You rant on Ian, it is your given right. I do believe there a lot of new /newer people putting heaps of effort into the site for Max's bank account and let's face it for our pleasure. One thing this site has mostly tolerated is the freedom to rant and come and go as we please. It is almost 10 years for me being a member here and and I welcome change with new faces. Keeps it fresh, not really sure what your rant is about but hope it gets sorted VB Hug

<font color=Brown>Music - The Sound Librarian

...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR]

Barbu

Forum Senior Member

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: infinity
Status: Offline
Points: 30845

Posted: May 30 2013 at 21:14

rushfan4 wrote:

Barbu wrote:

rushfan4 wrote:

We could tell you by the way you type.

Really?

Nah, just seemed like the appropriate response.

Indeed.

rushfan4

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 65938

Posted: May 30 2013 at 21:12

Barbu wrote:

rushfan4 wrote:

We could tell you by the way you type.

Really?

Nah, just seemed like the appropriate response.

Barbu

Forum Senior Member

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: infinity
Status: Offline
Points: 30845

Posted: May 30 2013 at 21:03

rushfan4 wrote:

We could tell you by the way you type.

Really?

Atavachron View Drop Down

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Online
Points: 64353

Posted: May 30 2013 at 21:00

it's just Vibe with his annual strafing run. Nice to see you Ian.

rushfan4

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
Status: Offline
Points: 65938

Posted: May 30 2013 at 20:58

We could tell you by the way you type.

Barbu

Forum Senior Member

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: infinity
Status: Offline
Points: 30845

Posted: May 30 2013 at 20:49

Some are here to work.
Some are here to have fun.
Some are here to lurk.
Some are here to laugh.
Many are here 'cos they love music.
Some are here to send illegal downloaders to hell.
Some are here 'cos they do believe in the day.
Some are here to share.
Some are here to participate.
Some are here to chill out.
Some are here to do what they have to.

Me? I'm just a lawnmower...

Roland113

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 30 2008
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Status: Offline
Points: 3841

Posted: May 30 2013 at 14:51

Roland113 wrote:

Vibrationbaby wrote:

I really don't understand what has happened with the site over the years. In the beginning it was fun and exciting. Now it is a political conflagration with too many admirals and not enough ordinary seamen. Everyone is a know-it-all. It's just a freaking music site for Christ sake not a military formation or a Forbes 100 company. I dunno. I guess the world is a different place every day when you wake up in the morning.

Why can't we just be equals here?

Heehee . . . you said seamen . . .

Seriously?

Your initial comment basically attacks the structure and intent of the site without offering any specifics as you complain about the rigid political 'military foundation' of the current management team. I figured that a comment showing that we don't all take ourselves as seriously as you imply was in order, in effect, I was attempting to show that 'fun' can still be had on the site. Your answer to that was effectively that I'm too flippant? I mean at this point, it seems that you're trying to start a flame war here.

If I can make an honest suggestion here, if you really want to enact some kind of change, give specifics rather than a general rant. From your initial post, I can't tell what you're really angry about.

I can attest that many of us do in fact care about the site. Many of us have committed time on reviews and contacting artists as well. Personally I've had artists give me excessive grief about the genre that they were assigned. A lot of us have and continue to put a lot of effort into the site. Trust me Ian, you've done a heck of a lot more reviews than I have, I don't want to take anything away from that, I just really don't understand why you think it was a waste. We're pretty much the premier prog site on the web, we have a huge amount of information available, new members arrive daily . . . For many of us, we're still fun and exciting.

-------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob-------

I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms.

aapatsos

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: November 11 2005
Location: Manchester, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 9226

Posted: May 30 2013 at 14:39

akamaisondufromage View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

VIP Member

Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
Status: Offline
Points: 6797

Posted: May 30 2013 at 14:10

We ARE all equals. Its just some of us ar more equal than the others.

(apologies for old joke)

Help me I'm falling!

Vibrationbaby View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: February 13 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 6898

Posted: May 30 2013 at 14:07

Case in point. The site has just gone to the dogs and nobody seems to care anymore. I've committed a lot of my time in the past writing reviews, updating biographies and contacting artists for information that otherwise would not be available. I just think it was a freaking waste. All this guy can offer is a childish response to my concerns? I dunno man.