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    Posted: August 21 2013 at 17:29
Originally posted by Kashmir75

Chris Maitland, former drummer for Porcupine Tree, played some live shows for the musical Mamma Mia, I think. 

Steven Wilson, before he could afford to do music full time, worked in IT, I think

I thougt he was the musical director for the whole show?


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I heard Spock's Beard guy works at Cirque du Soleil, doesn't he?

I've released three vinyls with my band, Stoned Jesus, played some festivals w/ Causa Sui, Orange Goblin, Uncle Acid, Naam, Long Distance Calling, Black Label Society and Enslaved, to name a few, and we're going on the fourth European tour this September, for almost two weeks. Still a customer support manager in a small IT company

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Post Options Post Options   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2013 at 15:16
^^^^Another Zebra fan here. That's Randy's day job? Sounds like one of those VOIP/Magic Jack things. I would've sooner guessed he sold guitars or gave lessons.
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Here is my favorite story -

I ordered a CD from the website of Zebra, a prog-related Zeppelin-inspired band.

When I received the CD, I also received a letter from Randy Jackson, the singer and guitarist of the band. He was telling me all about his day job, which was selling a long-distance telephone service. He invited me to sign up for the service.

I didn't, of course, but it was weird to think of this "Rock Star" trying to make some extra cash by selling long distance service!

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I think Robert Fripp is mainly living off the money that Toyah made!

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I think Rick has done some major gigs lately.
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Many guys we think of as 'famous' have to either do day jobs now or they are back in minor gigland, like Jon Anderson, Rick Wakeman, Keith Emerson etc. I think Robert Fripp is mainly living off the money that Toyah made!
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Chris Maitland, former drummer for Porcupine Tree, played some live shows for the musical Mamma Mia, I think. 

Steven Wilson, before he could afford to do music full time, worked in IT, I think
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Originally posted by Prog-jester

I heard Spock's Beard guy works at Cirque du Soleil, doesn't he?

I've released three vinyls with my band, Stoned Jesus, played some festivals w/ Causa Sui, Orange Goblin, Uncle Acid, Naam, Long Distance Calling, Black Label Society and Enslaved, to name a few, and we're going on the fourth European tour this September, for almost two weeks. Still a customer support manager in a small IT company

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Wow, you're in Stoned Jesus? Shocked Love your band! My brother played me some of your stuff! I will download your album off Itunes. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rushfan4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 11:10
Originally posted by Prog-jester

I heard Spock's Beard guy works at Cirque du Soleil, doesn't he?

Yes.  Supposedly, Nick D'Virglio quit as vocalist/drummer for Spock's Beard so he could concentrate on his day job as a musician with Cirque du Soleil.  That I have seen his name pop up in a number of recent releases with other bands makes me wonder if there is more to the story. 
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Sorry, I meant of course "never made a profit"
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Surprisingly enough, not many musicians make a lifetime living out of music. Even successful musicians run out of steam and money after a while, bands like Ten Years After, ELP, Yes, became quite well off individually for a while, but you need to sustain a successful and popular career to keep up the mansion and cars. Apparently even David Bowie never made a profile until recently.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2013 at 16:42
Originally posted by sleeper


Originally posted by presdoug

Triumvirat's Helmut Koellen was also an auto mechanic and race car driver. (I am not sure to what extent, though, he was involved in these things while a musician in Triumvirat)
I did search on Koellens racing and can only assume that he was either participating under a pseudonym or that he was only at an amateur level.I know that David Jackson was a maths teacher after VdGG broke up in the late 70's. These days, there are very few professional musicians involved in prog and those that are tend to have to work very hard at the business side of things to keep going (like Nick Barrett of Pendragon).
Thanks a lot for checking about Helmut. People that would probably know all about that are Jurgen Fritz, and Helmut's sister Elke Schlimbach-Koenig, and i have contacted both of them in the past, with no result. Oh, well.
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Originally posted by progbethyname

Originally posted by sleeper


Originally posted by presdoug

Triumvirat's Helmut Koellen was also an auto mechanic and race car driver. (I am not sure to what extent, though, he was involved in these things while a musician in Triumvirat)
I did search on Koellens racing and can only assume that he was either participating under a pseudonym or that he was only at an amateur level.I know that David Jackson was a maths teacher after VdGG broke up in the late 70's. These days, there are very few professional musicians involved in prog and those that are tend to have to work very hard at the business side of things to keep going (like Nick Barrett of Pendragon).


Cool. So what does Nick Barrett do exactly? This is interesting. :)

Couldn't tell you what the day to day running of Toff Records and Pendragon entails I'm afraid, might be worth PM'ing Wilcey to find out, as she's Nicks partner and very much helps out in that respect.
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Originally posted by Roj

Flower Kings vocalist Hasse Froberg is a baggage handler at the airport (Stockholm I think) as his day job.


that's cool! If one goes to see Flower Kings live in Sweden, then he/she can hang around in the airport to get an early autograph of Hasse Froberg himself!!!!

Not sure if my favorite progger Phideaux does TV movie directing or makes music for a day job.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote altaeria Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2013 at 13:30

Geoff Downes played in a John-Payne-fronted ASIA  
during the  Post-Grunge-infested  late 1990s.  

Maybe that didn't technically qualify as a "day job"
... but it sure wasn't glamorous.  Ermm

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Post Options Post Options   Quote progbethyname Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2013 at 07:29
Originally posted by sleeper


Originally posted by presdoug

Triumvirat's Helmut Koellen was also an auto mechanic and race car driver. (I am not sure to what extent, though, he was involved in these things while a musician in Triumvirat)
I did search on Koellens racing and can only assume that he was either participating under a pseudonym or that he was only at an amateur level.I know that David Jackson was a maths teacher after VdGG broke up in the late 70's. These days, there are very few professional musicians involved in prog and those that are tend to have to work very hard at the business side of things to keep going (like Nick Barrett of Pendragon).


Cool. So what does Nick Barrett do exactly? This is interesting. :)
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Flower Kings vocalist Hasse Froberg is a baggage handler at the airport (Stockholm I think) as his day job.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sleeper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2013 at 06:31
Originally posted by presdoug

Triumvirat's Helmut Koellen was also an auto mechanic and race car driver. (I am not sure to what extent, though, he was involved in these things while a musician in Triumvirat)


I did search on Koellens racing and can only assume that he was either participating under a pseudonym or that he was only at an amateur level.

I know that David Jackson was a maths teacher after VdGG broke up in the late 70's. These days, there are very few professional musicians involved in prog and those that are tend to have to work very hard at the business side of things to keep going (like Nick Barrett of Pendragon).
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Originally posted by The.Crimson.King



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Dark song my prog brother! I feel I like the strings in the first 3 minutes of the song. I also appreciate the dramatic twist in tempo around the 5:30 mark and the last 3min of the song where it goes completely ape sh*t! Very cool, but the vocals will take some getting used to just like I did for John Haughm's from AGALLOCH. ;)

Ya, this style of vocals are a make-or-break deal for many.  My 1st exposure was in the late 80's with Celtic Frost "To Mega Therion" and Sepultura "Beneath the Remains".  I was like, "What is THIS about???"  I loved the music but hated the "vokills"...as time went on I started to regard it as another instrument rather than a voice and began appreciating it.  Same deal with early Opeth & Enslaved...though both became much more interesting to me when they started mixing clean vocals with the growls.



Vokills.... well said. Also, Beneath The Remains is an absolutely fantastic album. Have you ever checked out Max Cavalera's SOULFY project? Now that is South American metal at its best. They have 8 albums to their credit. ;)
I recommend 'The Dark Ages' album. It's their most complete release to date. :)

I have the 1st Soulfly album and love that song where Max sings, "No &^%$#@#$$ Hootie and the Blowfish"...

I love "Beneath the Remains" and think the next one "Arise" is even better...In the early 90's I had a Mazda Miata and I put a huge Sepultura label across the top of my front windscreen...I used to call it "The Death Metal Mobile" Headbanger
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