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dianeleslie636
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Topic: The Underrated Posted: August 21 2011 at 15:10 |
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rogerthat
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Posted: August 20 2011 at 22:56 | ||
^^^ I agree, in the sense there's no way A Passion Play would be an 'unnoticed' album. Just polarizing. I like it but it's not too high on my JT favourites and from their 70s albums, is behind SFTW, Aqualung and TAAB.
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DiamondDog
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Posted: August 20 2011 at 10:34 | ||
Ian Anderson is not underrated, every album can't be a cracker.
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hobocamp
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Posted: August 20 2011 at 09:45 | ||
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DiamondDog
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Posted: August 20 2011 at 08:07 | ||
Individuals, the plural being the point.
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uduwudu
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Posted: August 20 2011 at 07:52 | ||
Of course, but one can hardly have chemistry between individuals before there are ...individuals.
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DiamondDog
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Posted: August 20 2011 at 07:09 | ||
Can't agree with that. It depends completely on the balance between the individuals.
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uduwudu
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Posted: August 20 2011 at 06:26 | ||
It is the composite of individual qualities that makes a balance. One has to start somewhere. Individual first! Interesting idea with PF. In 1984 DG could not sell oy a theatre with own (non PF band). Now it'a a dfferent matter... Same individual though... Oh yes, Nick Mason. Terrific Floyd drummer. His work on Time alone is er, timeless.. Of course the rest of PF chime in with some pretty superb ideas... I read his book a while back (fun) and was amused to note on a calendar he noted the birthdates of Kylie and Robbie Williams but not say, Bonzo or any / many other notable contemporary... |
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DiamondDog
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Posted: August 20 2011 at 06:05 | ||
Most things that Ian Anderson does work well. But this was one that didn't.
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hobocamp
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Posted: August 19 2011 at 22:25 | ||
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presdoug
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Posted: August 18 2011 at 17:37 | ||
When i think of under-rated drummers, the one that comes to mind right away is Jo Koinzer from German jazz-rock band Brainstorm.
His name is never mentioned, and when you hear him, you will wonder why? He has a complex technique that is aggressive, but intricate in the same breath. |
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silverpot
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Posted: August 18 2011 at 17:13 | ||
Very accurate indeed. Nick was the best drummer for Pink Floyd, in fact, he was instrumental for their sound and pace.They all fitted together perfectly. Every one of them had the good taste to leave a few notes and beats out, to create that athmosphere. |
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EchidnasArf
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 04 2011 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 376 |
Posted: August 18 2011 at 15:36 | ||
Nick Mason is one of my favorite drummers. There's something to be said about restraint that a few people here obviously don't understand. One person mentioned that they had never been "blown away by his percussion abilities". That's fine, but you should be blown away by his impeccable understanding of time, atmosphere, groove, and tastefulness. Otherwise, you're just a shallow listener.
As far as underrated players go, Bill Frisell instantly comes to mind. This guy can play anything and has worked with so many different artists and genres, having an uncanny knack for leaving his fingerprint on anything that he's a part of. He's released some great solo albums and worked with John Zorn (and part of Naked City from '86-'03), Dave Holland, Elvin Jones, Jack DeJohnette, Elvis Costello, John Scofield, Ginger Baker, Michael Shrieve, Mike Stern, Ron Carter, Paul Motian, among countless others, and he even appears on an Allen Ginsberg album of poetry and spoken word. Bill Frisell is one of the best living guitarists around today, and hardly anyone knows who he is because he's so humble. |
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jean-marie
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Posted: August 18 2011 at 13:39 | ||
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Slaughternalia
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Posted: August 18 2011 at 12:52 | ||
^ true, and it's not The Flower Kings or The Tangent
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I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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mono
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 12 2005 Location: Paris, France Status: Offline Points: 652 |
Posted: August 18 2011 at 12:12 | ||
Almost everything recent is underexposed here.
Just look at the most popular bands in the last 24H
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https://soundcloud.com/why-music Prog trio, from ambiant to violence
https://soundcloud.com/m0n0-film Film music and production projects https://soundcloud.com/fadisaliba (almost) everything else |
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The Willow Farmer
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 04 2011 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 112 |
Posted: August 18 2011 at 10:08 | ||
Pink Floyd's music didn't need flashy drumming the same way it didn't need complex bass playing. Floyd was about atmosphere, and Nick Mason contributed perfectly.
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Recent Music Acquisitions:
Johnny Marr-"The Messenger" Steven Wilson-"The Raven that Refused to Sing" Fish-"Sunsets on Empire" Riverside-"Shrine of New Generation Slaves" |
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giselle
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 18 2011 Location: Hertford Status: Offline Points: 466 |
Posted: August 18 2011 at 05:27 | ||
The chemistry of a band is more important than individual qualities. Balance counts. Nick Mason seems perfect to me for Pink Floyd.
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esky
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Posted: July 30 2011 at 22:52 | ||
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Formentera Lady
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 20 2010 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 1768 |
Posted: July 29 2011 at 10:38 | ||
I think John Wetton is much appreciated on this site, as singer and bass player of King Crimson. Or do you mean his solo works? |
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