PA's Battle to Stardom C2: Opeth v. VDGG |
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MovingPictures07
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Topic: PA's Battle to Stardom C2: Opeth v. VDGG Posted: November 14 2008 at 15:30 |
Please: If you are not familiar with one or both of the band's material, I urge
that you use the links provided and at least listen to the samples on
their respective pages (or Youtube if the particular band has no online
streaming).
Opeth's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1122 VDGG's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=343 As always, discussions are encouraged. Recap: Round 3 C1: C1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53258 Round 2 B1: B2: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. B3: B4: Van der Graaf Generator v. B5: Rush v. B6: B7: Le Orme v. B8: B1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52648&PN=1 B2: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52714 B3: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52795 B4: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52869 B5: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52956&PN=1 B6: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53056&PN=1 B7: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53114&PN=1 B8: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53181&PN=1 Round 1 A1: A2: A3: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. A4: A5: Can v. A6: A7: Van der Graaf Generator v. A8: Samla Mammas Manna v. A9: Rush v. A10: A11: Henry Cow v. A12: A13: A14: A15: A16: Gentle Giant v. A1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2 A2: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1 A3: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1 A4: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1 A5: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1 A6: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51778 A7: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51855 A8: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51928&PN=1 A9: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52011 A10: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52091 A11: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52158&PN=1 A12: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52246 A13: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52336 A14: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52411&PN=1 A15: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52487&PN=1 A16: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52571 |
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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 13 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3834 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 15:35 |
THE WORST CHOICE EVER THROWN IN FRONT OF ME.
Opeth, my favourite band at the moment vs VDGG, the band that helped shape my entire musical career. Opeth, however, did the same as VDGG to me. So it's gonna have to be them, although I hate to do it |
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32491 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 15:38 |
I haven't gotten into either band yet. Sorry.
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Visitor13
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 15:41 |
Some two years ago I'd have had a major problem choosing. Today my choice is clearly Opeth. Unlike with VdGG, I haven't grown bored with Opeth. Lots of respect for VdGG though, a very talented bunch, it's just that the magic wore off.
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Avantgardehead
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 15:53 |
Down with Opeth! VDGG is 1,000,000x more interesting to me.
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http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian
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Padraic
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 15:58 |
I think I like Opeth's albums a bit more. Bit of a tough call for me.
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rushfan4
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66093 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 16:02 |
Musically, I think that I prefer Opeth. Vocally, I prefer Akerfeldt's clean voice to Hammill's quirky voice; but I prefer Hammill's quirky voice to Akerfeldt's Cookie Monster voice. I've pretty much sat out all of the VDGGs and Opeths so far, so no reason to start making a choice now. The next poll is going to lead to quite the bloodbath though.
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Visitor13
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 16:07 |
I don't think so, Rush's going to take that one fairly easily, I'd imagine. |
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Avantgardehead
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 16:09 |
Oy vey, Rush vs. Magma?! Better take cover...
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crimson87
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 03 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1818 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 16:18 |
I think the VDGG guys will have a hard time here. I ve' heard "Still Life" and it was a very good album , just that growling vocals are not for me. However PH voice is also an adquired taste. A band that has 2 records in the top 10 just can't lose this early.
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Bern
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: September 22 2005 Location: Québec Status: Offline Points: 11746 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 16:19 |
I'd vote for VdGG almost against any other band.
But in this case... I'll vote for VdGG! Still Life, Godbluff and Pawn Hearts are all some of my very favorite albums. Opeth are good but VdGG are the masterliness. Edited by Bern - November 14 2008 at 16:20 |
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RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 16:53 |
VDGG by a factor of lots.
I like Opeth, but they're simply not on the same level... not even close. VDGG cut the second best album ever, and hold four of my top 11. They're also my favourite band ever. Hammill is miles ahead of any other vocalist, and can express complex emotions in a way that pretty much noone else does. Their piano and guitar inclusions are extremely tasteful and evocative. Jaxon's done more for the sax than any member of Opeth has done for their instrument, as far as I can see; Banton's formidable, often classically-based and heavily customised organs... sometimes takes a while to get what he's doing in a particular song, but when you do, it's amazing. Guy Evans is no slouch either, though I can see why his beat-and-massive-fill style might not suit some people. I can't understand a vote for Opeth, but that's because I'm a shameless VDGG fanboy, and someone who's generally more of a classic prog man. |
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Hercules
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:00 |
Opeth.
I just do not get VdGG. I can't stand Hamill's voice, there's virtually no decent guitar, no bass and the music is dark, and I hate dark. I do like Hugh Banton's keyboards, though. Opeth are heavy and interesting, though the death metal growls take a bit of getting used to. |
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Lofcaudio
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 04 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 444 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:10 |
I'd say that this sums up my feelings perfectly. Well said Hercules!
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Wanorak
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4574 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:12 |
VDGG all the way! All take Peter Hammill's exceptional voice anyday over death growls. Opeth's vocals have improved greatly and once the growls go away completely I'll take them more seriously, because they make great music:)
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Queen By-Tor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:15 |
Oh crap... Opeth fanboys scare me
Go VdGG, some of the most emotional music put to tape, especially from Pawn Hearts to Still Life, three 5-star albums IMO. |
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Takeshi Kovacs
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 27 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2454 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:27 |
VdGG rfor me, though I like Opeth. VdGG are one of the pioneering classic prog bands though, and I can't go against that.
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Okocha
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 13 2007 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 681 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 17:31 |
VDGG
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horsewithteeth11
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 18:11 |
You haven't even come across one....until now. OPETH!OPETH!OPETH! Who knows though? Maybe one of these days I might come to actually understand what so many people see in VDGG. But for now, they really just don't fit my tastes, plus they're against my second favorite band. Although I am surprised that it isn't a bloodbath yet. |
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aapatsos
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226 |
Posted: November 14 2008 at 18:19 |
Tough tough call
Opeth by a tiny margin |
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