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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2011 at 13:59
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Hmm, we are certainly making an impact here I agree but theres something about a mag that hits newstands and targets an audience that may never darken our doorstep here........... they both have validity in this case.
 
A couple more years ... just a couple more ... and anyone trying to sell those magazines by distribution is going to go broke! It is the stupidest thing, and the company would (essentially) be paying someone else for the priviledge of distributing it, and this is the part of the music business that started falling off first, and the publishing business is next ...
 
Get ready to print this at home ... you buy it direct, download it, and print it. In 5 years the color printers will be even better and almost as good as what you get on the street anyway! And it helps a company keep track of sales better over all, since the distributors and record companies were never that honest in the first place!
 
Again, if I was a person on the board at PA, I would start this NOW, and try to get something going on a monthly basis, and sell each license individually ... (on Adobe, you can download it and NOT print it) ... although the usual paranoia is going to happen when someone sends a copy of it to their friends ... and what not. But generally, most people would want their own anyway, and if they want a printed copy they can call PA directly and order one!
 
There are many things that can be done ... the question is ... do you wanna do it? ... and when? ... just don't wait until the next decade when others are already doing it, and PA is no longer vital ... !!! ... which is my only concern.

I fail to see the relevant comparison between Classic Rock & Prog Archives. One is a published magazine and the other is an internet resource.

Or am I missing something? Should I drink something a bit stronger than a pint of brains SA tonight in order to "get it"?LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2011 at 16:32
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Hmm, we are certainly making an impact here I agree but theres something about a mag that hits newstands and targets an audience that may never darken our doorstep here........... they both have validity in this case.
 
A couple more years ... just a couple more ... and anyone trying to sell those magazines by distribution is going to go broke! It is the stupidest thing, and the company would (essentially) be paying someone else for the priviledge of distributing it, and this is the part of the music business that started falling off first, and the publishing business is next ...
 
Get ready to print this at home ... you buy it direct, download it, and print it. In 5 years the color printers will be even better and almost as good as what you get on the street anyway! And it helps a company keep track of sales better over all, since the distributors and record companies were never that honest in the first place!
 
Again, if I was a person on the board at PA, I would start this NOW, and try to get something going on a monthly basis, and sell each license individually ... (on Adobe, you can download it and NOT print it) ... although the usual paranoia is going to happen when someone sends a copy of it to their friends ... and what not. But generally, most people would want their own anyway, and if they want a printed copy they can call PA directly and order one!
 
There are many things that can be done ... the question is ... do you wanna do it? ... and when? ... just don't wait until the next decade when others are already doing it, and PA is no longer vital ... !!! ... which is my only concern.
No one in their right mind will ever print out a 130 page full colour magazine in their own home. They'll read it online or on a Kindle (or at least they will if a colour version is made).
 
We are not a magazine nor are we trying to emulate a print document - that would be pointless and stupid. If you are using the PA like that then cool, but that's not how everyone else uses it.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2011 at 18:40


       I think that there are definiitely different cultures involved between Prog Magazine and Prog Archives.

   Prog Magazine is pretty UK-CENTERED, and focuses mostly on bands that are currently visible on

   the scene there, especially those that are playing regular gigs around London, where the magazine is

   based. This is reflected quite clearly in the polls that they run, etc. For instance, in their Best Prog

   Albums Poll, there were 4 Marillion Albums that made the cut, and hardly anything by other European

    countries. Here at PA, we have a Global Community, which is equally focused on the Italian bands,

    Swedish, Dutch, and of course the US. So less "ethnocentric" i guess you could say !! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2011 at 22:40
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

It's really expensive, but well worth it IMO - I've saved by cancelling my order of the regular Classic Rock magazine.
 
I completely agree it's well worth it.I've purchased the last two and have been blown away by the interviews and articles.I'm just glad i found a place to buy it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 00:48
The CDs are pretty good and I was introduced by listening to them to some great bands and even artists contacted me after reviews of the mag CDs. So there is a good case to be made for the CDs though they are of more recent prog, no classics really. The interviews are good enough and you learn about whats out there in one swoop rather than scouring pages and pages of internet sites. It  is worth getting issues for posterity - it doesnt come out every week so becomes affordable as a quaterly magazine. Its the quality that makes the difference.
The facebook of the mag is interesting too. Some good responses...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 16:23
From what I've seen, it's yet another glossy mag that simply regurgitates popular taste and incorrect history. For want of a nail a Kingdom was lost.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2011 at 00:55
Originally posted by giselle giselle wrote:

From what I've seen, it's yet another glossy mag that simply regurgitates popular taste and incorrect history. For want of a nail a Kingdom was lost.
 
I've got a few issues. It's a good read if it covers bands you like, like the Thin Lizzy issue a couple years back. I stopped buying it regularly because it's not cheap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2012 at 03:45
I agree that these threads are for discussion not advertising
and i am NOT advertising when i say i am a Dj of a prog rock show - in ballarat australia - and i feature as many prog rock acts as i can and do a history of each and more.....its 99.9 voicefm ballarat but streamed at www.voicefm.com.au on wednesday night 10pm to 12pm eastern standard times australia and i use prog rock mag as a source for my show and also play the cds with new acts and compare them to older ones etc
 
i see my show as a chance to educate this generation in the history of prog rock in general
 
Up to show 70 now and am re editing each two hour show to be syndicated around australia. If you are part of a regional or community based - voluntary based network and would like copies of the show (anywhere in the world)  email me at [email protected]
 
We are volunteers and do it cos we love music
and i love prog and that is why i buy this mag
but lots of mags have too many ads
and need to listen to their readers not their advertisers
so hopefully the people who make this mag
listen and act
because thats how things get better - or worse -if they dont listen
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2012 at 04:08
I'd eagerly read it for free but wouldn't pay for it. (Joking aside, libraries should get it as a magazine which chronicles more cerebral forms of popular music.)
 
The reason I wouldn't pay is though it's entertaining a lot of the content is over-familiar and a bit reheated. Most features I feel like I've read before, it's a bit too mainstream/nostalgic. If they went a bit more way-out there I would reconsider purchasing it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2016 at 14:53
Team Rock have gone into receivership so unless a buyer can be found Classic Rock presents Prog magazine will be no more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2016 at 15:13
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Team Rock have gone into receivership so unless a buyer can be found Classic Rock presents Prog magazine will be no more.


Blimey. Bad news, for sure.

A couple of issues ago, they ditched the fancy gatefold cover, so I suppose that was the harbinger of things not being so healthy.

Let's hope a buyer can be found.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2016 at 15:16
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Team Rock have gone into receivership so unless a buyer can be found Classic Rock presents Prog magazine will be no more.


Blimey. Bad news, for sure.

A couple of issues ago, they ditched the fancy gatefold cover, so I suppose that was the harbinger of things not being so healthy.

Let's hope a buyer can be found.
Does this mean that rock is dead? Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2016 at 15:37
That is a bummer.  I am a regular reader of both Classic Rock and Prog magazines and get many great suggestions from them.  I guess that I am kind of glad that my buying has been month to month at the newstand versus prepaying the subscription and getting screwed out of my money.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2016 at 15:38
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Team Rock have gone into receivership so unless a buyer can be found Classic Rock presents Prog magazine will be no more.


Blimey. Bad news, for sure.

A couple of issues ago, they ditched the fancy gatefold cover, so I suppose that was the harbinger of things not being so healthy.

Let's hope a buyer can be found.
Does this mean that rock is dead? Confused


It means that in the present era, print magazines face a bloody hard job to survive.

Oh, and to clarify Dean's original post, the parent company has gone into administration, meaning that they are actively seeking buyers for a, hopefully, ongoing business. However, having just read the news on BBC website after Dean's post, and looking at the financial figures in terms of losses and decline in turnover, it does not look too hopeful.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2016 at 16:04
Never been a fan of the magazine, but the callous way in which the employees were shown the door, a few days before Christmas, saddened me deeply (I read about it on the ProgEars forum). Hope they will find something else as soon as possible.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2016 at 16:44
A truly sad day for those concerned about the commercial aspect of rock music. One can like or dislike the priorities given by the magazines Team Rock had, but they did make these genres and numerous artists active in them visible in a manner no-one else has managed for decades. One can only hope, for the sake of the employees just as much as for the sake of the genres these magazines covered, that someone else decides to step in and take if not all then at least most of them over.
The Prog mag have done magnificent work in giving limelight and spotlight to their chosen genre, I see the footprints they have left on a fairly constant basis when reading mainstream media. For the sake of this type of music specifically I hope that the Prog mag is one that will be saved.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2016 at 02:52
I had no idea but it is bad news.  Whatever its faults, it is amazing that a regular magazine devoted to prog rock can be found in shops all over the country.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2016 at 08:33
And it's not just the magazine. They finally gave Prog its own special night, an annual awards ceremony which honoured the best of the year, and said thank you to the legends of the past, most of whom would be generally ignored by the mainstream media.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2016 at 12:41
Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

I had no idea but it is bad news.  Whatever its faults, it is amazing that a regular magazine devoted to prog rock can be found in shops all over the country.
 
I totally agree.....even with all it's faults it promoted prog rock and new artists as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2016 at 12:48
I saw this on my Facebook feed the other day.  http://www.wlup.com/2016/12/23/rush-join-bands-in-supporting-team-rock/
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