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Group 87

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3.27 | 15 ratings | 6 reviews | 7% 5 stars

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Studio Album, released in 1980

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Future of the City (5:01)
2. Magnificent Clockworks (4:30)
3. Frontiers, 1856 (3:16)
4. Sublime Feline (6:25)
5. The Bedouin (3:21)
6. While the City Sleeps (2:25)
7. Moving Sidewalks (4:24)
8. Hall of Glass (2:34)
9. One Night Away from Day (5:55)

Total Time 37:51

Line-up / Musicians

- Mark Isham / trumpet, electronics, keyboards
- Patrick O'Hearn / electric & acoustic bass
- Peter Maunu / guitars, violin, keyboards

With:
- Terry Bozzio / drums
- Peter Wolf / piano

Releases information

LP USA Columbia (1980) NJC-36338
CD One Way Records (2000) B000053UVD

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3.27
(15 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(7%)
7%
Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(67%)
67%
Good, but non-essential (20%)
20%
Collectors/fans only (7%)
7%
Poor. Only for completionists (0%)
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Review by ClemofNazareth
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog Folk Researcher
4 stars Group 87 were a super group of sorts back in the early eighties, with trumpeter/ keyboardist Mark Isham counting studio work with Pink Floyd, Van Morrison, and Boz Skaggs to his credit; bassist Patrick O’Hearn having been a member of Frank Zappa’s band in the seventies; and guitarist Peter Maunu having worked with Jean-Luc Ponty and Billy Cobham, in addition to being a founding member of the L.A. Express. All of them were up-and-coming musicians in the southern California area, and all would go on to successful careers as studio musicians, composers, and producers. Drummer Terry Bozzio was on his way out of Zappa’s band and in the process of forming the pop sensation Missing Persons with his wife and O’Hearn, so he declined an invitation to join the band but appeared as a guest musician on their debut.

This is an entirely instrumental album, consisting solely of drums, trumpet, bass, and guitar, with the remainder of sounds coming out of a variety of keyboards and synthesizers operated by Isham. This is a sound that is undeniably eighties, but is also rather difficult to classify. While one might be tempted to lump then with more traditional jazz/fusion bands, there is nothing improvisational about this music. Every note seems carefully orchestrated and executed with precision. Each arrangement starts around a central basic rhythm, and then constructs a series of progressions that often seem to have little to do with that rhythm, usually with a combination of percussion and synthesized keyboards. The whole thing works deliciously well.

“Future of the City” starts with a cold and glistening electric piano that is joined by a quiet, jazzy trumpet before blossoming into a rich blend of guitar, drums and cymbals. The whole thing sounds like a Joe Jackson (ala ‘Night and Day’) piano-bar tune with a little cool Al DiMeolo thrown in for effect, while Maunu’s guitar work is just pure fusion. Midway through the tempo shifts with a warm synthesized passage with Isham’s trumpet rising above in an almost celestial fashion. A great opening to an unusual album.

The basic rhythm of “Magnificent Clockworks” reminds me a lot of Jeff Beck’s version of “Goodbye Pork-Pie Hat” with its purposeful and driving beat that is at the same time smooth and soothing. Guest drummer Terry Bozzio is spectacular, particularly as he works above the rim with some great percussion. Maunu’s guitar work is funky but very measured and Isham lays some melodic and spacey keyboards on the whole thing to give it a bit of a fast-paced ballroom feel. If you’ve ever heard Georgio Morodor’s work on the ‘Electric Dreams’ soundtrack, you’ll have an idea of the tenor of this track.

The group slows down considerably for “Frontiers: 1856”, a lazy keyboard-driven piece with some very lush bass and acoustic guitar passages that just seem to float around the room on a good stereo. The acoustic qualities of this track are just superb. My only complaint about this particular recording is that it is entirely too brief. This could have easily been developed with some nuances of time and movement built into the arrangement to even greater effect.

Maunu gets a bit funky with his electric guitar on “Sublime Feline”, with Isham seeming to work at keeping up with Bozzio’s aggressive tempo. Isham also weaves some really unusual trumpet work in, very dissonant tones that blend very well with keyboards. Behind all of this is a persistent bell-like synthesizer rhythm that gives this a futuristic feel, or as close to one that a twenty-seven year old recording can muster. The disassociated ending is very unique, and much more interesting than the fadeout ending used on most of the tracks.

The back side of the vinyl album opens with “The Bedouin”, a pulsating, snared beat from Bozzio along with a stark piano score that sounds very much like the album’s opening track. This almost sounds as if the band took the opening number and just slowed it down a bit, but the slightly syncopated beat dresses it up with a completely new sound. Other than the drums, this is an almost completely synthesized composition, and would not have been out-of-place on one of the later Alan Parsons Project albums.

“While the City Sleeps” is also heavy on early techno sounds, but like “Frontiers” the tempo is slow and smooth. Isham’s trumpet here is as close to pure jazz as he gets anywhere on the album, but once again the whole thing seems to be more like a sampler, and should have been developed quite a bit more.

“Moving Sidewalks” is centered around a choppy electric piano riff and string-driven synthesizer, along with more of the interwoven and understated trumpet work that almost sounds synthetic itself (heck, maybe it is). Useless trivia – Moving Sidewalks was the name of ZZ Top Billy Gibbon’s first band. Has nothing to do with this song, but thought I’d bring it up.

“Hall of Glass” sounds like something that Luc-Ponty might have done, quietly executed with careful attention paid to each note, but no particular theme to drive it and so left to the interpretation of the listener. While the album as a whole is quite strong, this one borders ever so slightly on filler.

The album closes on “One Night Away From Day”, dominated almost completely by Maunu’s soaring guitar passages and Bozzio’s avant drum work. This is another track that could easily pass for something from Jeff Beck around the same timeframe, and works very well to cap off the album.

Like I said before, this is a rather unusual album that is difficult to classify. While on first listen it seems a bit light and fluffy, repeated playing reveals the high level of precision and virtuoso playing of each musician. The band suffered from poor management as well as a major slump in the record industry in the early eighties, so there was little promotion of the album, and the members moved on to other ventures. They would reform for another album a few years later, but it lacked the fresh feel and quiet energy of this debut. This is a great recording for those who enjoy skillful musicianship and tight fusion with an early techno feel to it. A worthwhile investment if you can find it. Four stars.

peace

Review by Atavachron
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator
3 stars Combining jazz fusion, hard rock, AM pop, soul and L.A.-style shimmer, Mark Isham, Patrick O'Hearn, Peter Maunu and Terry Bozzio put together this little project in 1980. Though a bit sterile by today's progressive standards, it is a solid session during an interesting but breif period in instrumental music.

On this, the first of two records, the veteran studio players present a classy but not-too-serious selection of adult progressive fusion that is low-key while still quite adept, taking its time with nine medium-length cuts. The material moves along gradually with a relaxed penthouse pace but is broken up by passages of clever arranging and instrumentation, Isham's horn leading the way with layers of chords, Bozzio responding sympathetically in hand with O'Hearn's solid bass, and Peter Maunu providing some clean and foamy electric guitar on top with a few nice hard rock moments.

Little of it is cutting edge or exciting and some progsters will simply be bored by Group 87, but on a lazy afternoon it proves to be a simple, easy to digest slice of instrumental pie, pleasing, inoffensive and entertaining.

Review by Evolver
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams
2 stars This album, released in 1980, shows, in a nutshell, what went wrong with the major label record companies starting in the late seventies, and continuing to this day.

Here we have a band of high pedigree. Peter Maunu had played with Billy Cobham and Jean-Luc Ponty, anong others. Mark Isham was a well-known San Francisco musician by this time. Patrick O'Hearn may be the best bassist ever to play in Frank Zappa's band (listen to The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution or The Purple Lagoon to hear why I say that). Add in two more Zappa alumni, Terry Bozzio and Peter Wolf. You should have a spectacular fusion album, right?

Wrong!

The result, probably guided by some record company executives, is a bland, boring set of placid, almost new age, background pap.

At no time do any of the musicians here take control, and play anything to capture the listener's attention. At best, these are unobtrusive background tracks for a polyester yuppie bar. It doesn't surprise me that all three of the main players on this album went on to become new age darlings. It also is no surprise that Bozzio declined full membership in this band, choosing instead to flaunt wife Dale's, uhhhh, talents, in The Missing Persons.

Review by Mellotron Storm
PROG REVIEWER
3 stars Repeated listens does help with this album but in the end it's still a 3 star album for me. GROUP 87 were a trio who released two studio albums in the eighties this being the self titled debut from 1980. A trio of session musicians including one I know in Mark Isham playing synths, keys and trumpet. Peter Maunu adds guitar, keys and violin while Patrick O'Hearn adds bass and double bass. We get two guests in Peter Wolf on piano and Terry Bozzio on drums. There's a Zappa connection here with Bozzio, O'Hearn and Wolf. Bozzio was asked to join this group but declined although he does play drums throughout as a guest. O'Hearn leaves after this record along with Wolf and Bozzio as guests.

I really believe we have a theme to this album if you look at the album cover and many of the song titles. This is about city living. I spent 9 months almost living in Toronto but came home on weekends but that's my extent of the city life. No thankyou, I like the beach where I live. A great album about city life is MOONGARDEN's "Round Midnight". This isn't as lightweight as it first appears. Some depth at times usually because of Bozzio like on "Sublime Feline" one of the better tracks. By the way the trio shares in the compositions, each writing more than one track. "The Bedouin" is another one where we get heavy but slow beats. Piano and atmosphere too. Some heavier outbursts on the closer but it's hit and miss for me. The synths sound plastic at times. I think that's clapping on "Magnificent Clockwork" a song I'm not big on anyways.

I tried but no reward with this one.

Latest members reviews

4 stars This is one of those records I picked up because of the cover.I don't know why exactly,but it stood out somehow. I have never heard any music like this,anywhere,ever. The best way for me to describe this music,is if you wake up from having some extreme weird trippy dream,this would be your sou ... (read more)

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4 stars For me, this is one of those albums that you play on a rainy Sunday afternoon, cup of tea, sit and listen...and I mean really listen. As you are listening to master musicians creating music, not exploiting their chops just to be cool. I loved this album when I first heard it, and am listening t ... (read more)

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