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3.77 | 21 ratings | 4 reviews | 14% 5 stars

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Studio Album, released in 2004

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Imagine What We Started (7:03)
2. Hungry For Now (3:03)
3. Remnants (3:59)
4. Dead Lies (8:27)
5. Erratic Thoughts (0:57)
6. Bullets Need Violence (8:13)
7. Collected Twighlight (6:22)
8. T-Electronique (6:34)
9. Untitled (1:14) *

* Not on LP

Total time 45:52

Line-up / Musicians

- Steven Wray Lobdell / guitar
- Joachim Irmler / organ, production
- Michael Stoll / bass
- Werner Diermeier / drums
- Lars Paukstat / percussion
- MC Dälek / hip hop lyrics
- Alap Momin "oktopus" / production
- Hsi-Chang Lin "still" / turntables

Note : The actual instrumentation could not be fully confirmed at this moment

Releases information

Artwork: Kerstin Nothmann with Roland Sandcool (photo)

CD Klangbad - klangbad 23 (2004, Germany)

LP Klangbad - klangbad 23 (2004, Germany)

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FAUST Faust & Dälek: Derbe Respect, Alder ratings distribution

(21 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(14%)
Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(38%)
Good, but non-essential (38%)
Collectors/fans only (10%)
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FAUST Faust & Dälek: Derbe Respect, Alder reviews

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Review by Guldbamsen
4 stars Street life

I am just about the biggest fan of German Krautrock legends Faust, but as I have previously stated, I think a lot of the stuff they've been churning out the past 10 years - have been stuck in the worming industrial palette as the one you encounter, when you pop on IV. I love the sound myself, but if they're aiming for a higher rating than a 3 - then advance, turn tricks or just plain change direction...

Then I bumped into this record. Watch me eat my own words - with pleasure and sea salt. I've come across a fair deal of collaborations in my life, but this one has got to be one of the most strange and yet most fulfilling that I can think of. Damn this is some good faeces!!! Though, if we rewind things a bit, we can actually spot what seems to be the perfect combination musically. Faust were of course one of the main instigators of the industrial genre - pioneering the metallic and desolate expression before any other bands were even thinking of combining such madness within a musical barrier. Dälek on the other hand took a lot of their inspiration from the same industrial wave as Faust fathered - using beats, bits and somewhat atypical noisiness and dark misanthropic moods - intelligently weaving these cryptic ingredients into the rhymes of the main man. Yet hip hop was always that. A Frankenstein of different parts - historical pieces spanning from Mo-town to Sergio Leone flicks glued together in a weird, bouncy and flavourful concoction that made your head bump and feet stomp.

On this album - the different angles of the industrial music age converge into something quite unique and expressive. Sure it is dark and noisy, but it works like a saw in a tree.

While I gather most of the mature people out there would hate this stuff with a vengeance - I can see many of the new comers to the world of experimental music go absolutely crazy to this mind-numbingly creation. There is a lot to like here - like the laser beam electronics mixed with a slightly corrosive coating that quite simply sounds like sonic acid tunnelling its way down into your brain. Coupled up together with staccato turntable flickers and the mad dog beats of hip hop, you here face something extraordinary and urban - like a towering sonic stature of cement and gravel throwing fiery darts in your general direction.

This one is atmospheric, creepy, echoing, uncouth, bad mouthed, ill tempered, beautiful and ugly, jarring, full of beats, rhymes and an urban pulse-taking device that seems to go beyond what you'll ever read about in a magazine like The Wire. This is streets, fuel and crowbars handed over in a dirty and rough musical gift basket.

Review by Dapper~Blueberries
4 stars As Faust entered into the 2000s, the popularity of rock music seemed to wane a bit as hip hop and rap soon took a more center stage in charts and performances, with acts like MF DOOM, Kanye West, and Eminem gaining loads of popularity. It obviously wasn't the end of the world for rock music, as what many older folks would have you believe, it just was that rock wasn't the big shot genre as it once was back in the mid to late 20th century. Now, Faust most likely saw this, and decided to throw their own hat into this new ring of hip hop, though only for one time, with the experimental hip hop group of dälek.

dälek is most known for their 2002 album From Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots, and if you've heard that album, like I have, you can certainly see a clear inspiration from the more unconventional side of krautrock that Faust rules with an iron fist, particular from the tracks of Spiritual Healing and Forever Close My Eyes. It also should be mentioned that Faust was very high on their industrial inspired train, and with dälek being very much a group situated in the industrial zone, it was basically a match made in heaven for both groups.

In some respects I kind of prefer this over Ravvivando, mainly because I feel it does the more long, track splitted suite better than what their previous 1999 effort did. The tracks flow better between one and another, and the effort of making this not a full on jam works wonders in its direction, especially in regards to the rapping that dälek contributes. Obviously I certainly love the jams that Faust can deliver, but having them take a back seat for more rhythmic ideals that krautrock is known for creates quite the interesting aura on the whole project.

I also find the blending of hip hop works very well with krautrock, to some extent. Krautrock has always been more of a beat heavy genre (I mean listen to Yoo Doo Right by Can), so combining rap with the genre is a pretty logical step to take for Faust, and I think they have no better output in that department than choosing dälek to be their head honcho in the hip hop ideals. Will Brooks' style of odd lyricism that blends the lines of consciousness, mystery, and humanity is quite the best puzzle piece when it comes to the musical direction that Faust was going towards in their works. It also works well due to Oktopus' production work, making each drum beat, each sample, and each element of Will's voice have a lot of weight within a stream of noise and grit. It's a sound that I very much enjoy, and a part of me wishes to hear more collabs with Faust and a variety of other experimental hip hop groups. I know for a fact that Faust and Death Grips would be an amazing combo, especially Zach Hill's drums, but I digress.

Though, there are two things that keeps this album back a bit, and firstly is that I feel like this more of a Faust album first, and a dälek album second. To me, it sounds less like a clear collaboration with both parties in the studio, and more as though dälek are merely rapping over select Faust instrumentals that they were also tasked to mix and produce. I love collaboration works when both parties can truly go hand and hand. For example, last year's collab project between JPEGMAFIA and Danny Brown, Scaring the Hoes, showcases a very wonderful collaborative effort from both parties, with Peggy's rapping and production skills merging very well with the ideals that Danny Brown produces on his own records, creating a still extremely good effort, even after a year later. But here with Derbe Respect, Alder I find both parties, while certainly merging well, do not feel as if they are in brotherly arms as much as I wish they could've been, and so the effort ends up feeling one sided.

There are also just some odd decisions when it comes to tracks. I don't really get why Remnants or Erratic Thoughts are on here as they just feel like placeholders for much bigger tracks, and the whole rapping that Will does being quite muddied in most of the tracks doesn't quite help in my assumption of this being more of a Faust album then a full on combo. As much as this album shows the full potential that krautrock and hip hop can apply to both, some aspects of this feel quite missed, and I honestly believe that if the two groups strived to make this the best collaboration record in their respective discographies, than I wouldn't mind having this be a near, if not full on masterpiece, but as it stands I don't quite see it being upon the same threshold as other albums.

A great, but certainly imbalanced release from both Faust and dälek, but it is a very nice effort if you wanna see a genre fusion such as this. If you wanna hear a mix of industrial, krautrock, and hip hop, then I'd say this record is the best you're gonna get.

Best tracks: Hungry for Now, Bullets Need Violence, T-electronique

Worst tracks: Remnants, Erratic Thoughts

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4 stars Rating: B+ As far as collaborations go, it would be hard to find one that sounds more appealing than Faust teaming with Dälek. Faust, of course, is a legendary Krautrock band with a string of great 1970s releases that revolutionized music, and at least one great "comeback" release (Ravvivando) ... (read more)

Report this review (#164110) | Posted by Pnoom! | Sunday, March 16, 2008 | Review Permanlink

3 stars 3.5 stars. It really pains me to give this fine album 3 star rating here, but I have to say that for the majority of people here it wouldn't be worth much in a collection. The album is far more on the experimental side. Sometimes it is fantastic, while many other moments just seem rather disap ... (read more)

Report this review (#122276) | Posted by Speesh | Tuesday, May 15, 2007 | Review Permanlink

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