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1.73 | 31 ratings | 3 reviews | 3% 5 stars

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Studio Album, released in 1993

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Worldwide Epiphany (1:19)
2. No World Order (0:57)
3. Worldwide Epiphany (1:21)
4. Day Job (4:24)
5. Property (4:30)
6. Fascist Christ (5:35)
7. Love Thing (3:44)
8. Time Stood Still (1:41)
9. Proactivity (2:55)
10. No World Order (6:20)
11. Worldwide Epiphany (4:23)
12. Time Stood Still (0:38)
13. Love Thing (1:36)
14. Time Stood Still (2:33)
15. Word Made Flesh (4:36)
16. Fever Broke (6:31)

Total Time 53:14

Line-up / Musicians

- Todd Rundgren / performer, composer & arranger, production & mixing

Releases information

First interactive album in history, on Philips' short-lived CD-i format as well as the Macintosh and Windows operating systems.

CD Forward ‎- R2 71266 (1993, US)

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Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(3%)
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Review by Easy Livin
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
2 stars All rapped up

In the late 1980's and 1990's, having effectively brought the life of Utopia to and end, Todd Rundgren split his attention between his solo work and an array of projects which did not require him to perform. Such ventures as video production, album production, etc. all brought with them a demand for Todd to develop his technical skills and awareness. As a result, he discovered he had a natural flair for such things, and got ever more deeply involved. This 1993 follow up to "Second wind" (1991), and the following "The individualist" were actually credited to TRI or Todd Rundgren Interactive, reflecting Todd's intention that they be more than simply music to be listened to.

When the album was originally released, it was made available in various formats compatible with Phillips (now defunct) CD-I, PCs, and MacIntosh computers. The software allowed the listener to manipulate the music through various mixes and other studio trickery. Beneath it all though lay an album of recordings by Todd, who writes, performs and produces everything you hear. That album plays on a conventional CD player revealing Todd's preferred order for the tracks. Cleverly though, he has created the tracks in such a way that even when played in random order, they segue from one to the next, affording the listener the opportunity to manipulate even the CD version.

Right from the start it is obvious that Todd has modernised his sound significantly. Electronic effects and processed guitars compete in a melee of electronics and swirling synths. Catching us completely off guard is the rapping which appears at regular intervals throughout the album. The first three tracks are over in under 4 minutes, the pace being relentless as the tracks merge from one to the next. The even more frantic "Day job" sounds like a cross between U2 and Run DMC, Rundgren's guitar work driving the song ever harder.

Unfortunately the rapping persists, with "Fascist Christ" bordering on the genuine hip hop. Some may find the new style appealing, but they are unlikely to come from the ranks of the traditional Rundgren fans. Hidden away beneath the sounds and effects which seem to come at you from all directions, there are some good old fashioned Rundgren melodies. Tracks such as "love thing" and "Time stood still" appear to be based on pretty standard Todd fare, but any hints of normality are buried beneath the onslaught.

Two of the songs appear three times in different forms on the album. In true computer terminology, these are classified as versions 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 of the tracks. Of these, the final and longest rendition of "Worldwide epiphany" is one of the better songs here.

In all, an album which sees Todd moving with the times, and attempting to make something contemporary which will appeal to a new audience. No doubt he would have been aware that in the process he would leave some fans (such as myself) behind. On the plus side, the music here is well performed and produced. There is an admirable freshness to the album and the exploration of listener interaction is a bold new initiative. Unfortunately though, the album leaves me cold.

Review by ZowieZiggy
1 stars The trilogy of opening acts are so short that one doesn't even have the feel that three songs have been played in less than four minutes (more of these are spread later in the album). I've never been a fan of super short tracks, unless played by genuine punk bands.

The offering here is quite boring. The funky / rap atmosphere is nothing of my liking ("Property") but most of all the dreadful "Fascist Christ" which is just a terrible song to bear.

But I have to say that it is a very difficult exercise to depict one good (or simply average) song out of this album. Tchak boum stuff like "Love Thing" is almost an insult from the artist. And the fans have to swallow this? Hummm, not very nice.

This album is a long journey into some very weak funk sounds ("Proactivity", " No World Order") which have very little to no relation at all with prog to be honest. It is not the first time I have mentioned this "feature" while describing one of Todd's album.

But this "No World Order" is really passing the limits of my understanding. Unbearable funky stuff as I have said. And nothing more needs to be added. as far as I'm concerned.

This is a weak album and I can only rate it with one little star. No melody, no nothing actually. Just a short hour of painful music. I don't like it at all.

Review by Evolver
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams
1 stars Hip hop Todd Rundgren? What was he thinking?

After releasing two fairly traditional albums, with full bands backing him Todd Rundgren released this, the first of a couple of album released as "TR-i" (Todd Rundgren - interactive). With the album, he toured without a band, encased in a circular module of synthesizers, with all sorts of devices that allowed audience members to come up and add sounds to the concert. I can't say what the end result was, as the concert I attended was in a circular hall, with awful acoustics, rendering the whole night just a mushy blast of unintelligible noise.

But I digress. This album has Todd as a hip hop artist, rapping along with repetitious beats and bass lines (some recognizable from earlier albums). The whole thing seems pretty empty. And without liner notes (all you get are a few credits), the lyrics get difficult to decipher.

There are a few nice parts. Day Job haqs some nice production, and some cool sounds, like a rhythmic sampling of a baby cooing. But the cool parts are worn to tedium by excessive repetition, one of the big problems with a lot of hip hop.

I'd have to say this is Todd's worst album.

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