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EN PUBLIC AUX ÉTATS-UNIS D'AMÉRIQUE

Etron Fou Leloublan

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Live, released in 1979

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Introduction (0:22)
2. Christine (7:56)
3. Ida Trop Tard (6:56)
4. Rose (3:58)
5. Un Apres-midi Au Zoo (3:02)
6. Atarte (rappel) (0:45)
7. Le Fleuve Et Le Manteau (8:27)
8. Et Puis (6:31)
9. Binet D'Eau Chaude (impro) (3:57)
10. La Java Des Bombes Atomiques (2:43)
11. Blanc (4:55)

Total Time: 49:32

Line-up / Musicians

- Bernard Mathieu / saxes
- Guigou Chenevier / drums
- Ferdinand Richard / bass

Releases information

LP Celluloid CEL 6572 (France)

Recorded live at Squat club, Trnity college, Hartford, Conn., USA, Nov 79

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ETRON FOU LELOUBLAN En Public Aux États-Unis d'Amérique ratings distribution


2.98
(22 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(18%)
18%
Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(27%)
27%
Good, but non-essential (32%)
32%
Collectors/fans only (18%)
18%
Poor. Only for completionists (5%)
5%

ETRON FOU LELOUBLAN En Public Aux États-Unis d'Amérique reviews


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Review by Prog-jester
PROG REVIEWER
2 stars This is ETRON FOU LELOUBLAN's show in America. Also CD contains two songs of later period (with more polished studio sound and keys added) - "La Java Des Bombes Atomiques" and "Blanc". EFL is hopelessly weak in live concert.Again they're shouting and bombing you with wild jamming,but it all fails to catch your attention fully. Zappa-like approach to tracks like "Christine" and "Le Fleuve Et Le Manteau" proves that they were losing sound of their own. Songs like "Rose" contain some melody (also "Atarte" is well-known tune), but I don't think this is necessary for EFL listeners.Drummer's solo "Un Apres-midi Au Zoo" is outstanding, but whole band's improvisation "Binet D'Eau Chaude" is less interesting. After all, can be good for EFL fans, but not recommended to others (even Avant/RIO devotees - try studio albums first).
Review by Syzygy
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator
3 stars Album number three from les trois fous introduces saxophonist number three, as Bernard Mathieu joins ace rhythm section Ferdinand Richard and Guigou Chenevier for an American tour. This recording is EFL at their most raw and skeletal, with no studio embellishments, and the sound quality is distinctly low-fi, but the album is also full of manic energy and excellent musicianship.

For some bands a live album is a kind of stopgap between studio releases, but EFL presented almost entirely new material along with their new line up. Only one track from their first two albums is featured, Le Fleuve Et Le Manteau, and Christine was the only track would emerge on their next album. There's also an indication of the move to shorter pieces that would characterise their next few releases, and although the surreal narratives still run through the songs they're less prominent, perhaps as a concession to their mostly English speaking audience on these dates. There are no great surprises in store, however, and the wild Beefheart inspired rhythms and free jazz excursions are still in place. There are some highly effective moments throughout the album; the second half of Christine sees Chenevier leaving the drum kit to play tenor sax alongside Mathieu, while Rose slows the pace down with a surprisingly straightforward vocal and minimal percussion. An Afternoon At The Zoo is a percussion only workout that is full of odd twists and turns, and Atarte is a brief snippet of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata rearranged for sax, bass and drums. The CD reissue has two later tracks, one a 1985 studio reinterpretation of a Boris Vian song and a live recording from 1986, both featuring keyboard player Jo Thirion and the first also featuring Fred Frith.

This album demonstrates just how much EFL could do with their stripped down line up, and in particular it showcases the phenomenal rhythm section of Richard and Chenevier. The quantity of material unavailable elsewhere and the sheer energy of these performances make this a real treat for an established fan, but the sound quality and the occasionally grating vocals may be heavy going for a newcomer.

Review by Sean Trane
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog Folk
3 stars 3.5 styars really!!!

Third album chronologically for EFL, with yet another wind player change, this time Bernard Mathieu. This is probably EFL at its rawest and barest, but we are in 79 and France is a high ground for rawness of punk as "n'importe quoi" (anything goes) but the group doesn't even use their show to promote or play older material, as in this Live collection, with only Fleuve & Manteau (actually quite close to the studio version with a superb sax hovering like Trane) belonging to one of their previous album, and Christine will be reworked in a future album.

That very Christine, built on short repetitive riff, whose storyline is used to for some other song characters in later songs during the concert. Indeed Christine's son JC gets a mention in the following track Ida Trop Tard, but I wouldn't call this album conceptual or thematic, but probably a bit of "n'importe quoi". Et Puis starts as declamation from Mathieyu that obviously had a cvold at the time, before starting very Gonglike with the same Mathieu then blowing Malherbe-like. Great stuff. Rose is from a different mood, as they aim more for music hall music, with Guigou Chevenier dreaming of Chevalier. Some tracks are definitely more difficult but still impressive, like the Zoo track with its all percussive solo attack. A small classical theme to announce to end a set of the concert (sounds like Fur Eloise) etc. .and a great improv to finish the vinyl.

The rawness of the recording is not as bad as some would have you believe, though as both Chevenier and Richard sing sometimes very close to Peter Hammill's register and the overall sound of the album might approach VDG's Vital live album., this mixed with a brutal rhythm section ala Velvet Underground meeting Beefheart's Trout Mask. The Cd reissue has two bonus tracks dating from the mid-80's, that might have their own interest but they stand out like a sore thumb on this live album, the latter of which feature HC's Fred Frith. Don't get me wrong both tracks are fine, but they should've found refuge on 80's EFL albums.

While I wouldn't recommend the novice to start discovering EFL with this live album, it's certainly a very interesting album that holds its own in their entire discography.

Review by Rune2000
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator
2 stars By the sounds of it, this particular performance from Etron Fou Leloublan was quite a spectacle to experience in a live setting. Unfortunately En Public Aux États-Unis d'Amérique only has a weak sound collage that can give a certain understanding of how the band sounded during the performance without much depth to it.

After hearing this live album on a few occasions it's still unclear to me what I think of this band's live act. Etron Fou Leloublan had, by the time of this release, already made another change in their lineup with Bernard Mathieu taking over the band's soprano & tenor saxophones duties. This would turn out to be the longest time a member of Etron Fou Leloublan would keep those duties which, in my opinion, greatly benefited the band's next studio release Les Poumons Gonflés.

This live album gives us a few hints of material of the next few albums like a wild take of Christine from Les Poumons Gonflés and Blanc off Face Aux Eléments Dechainés but other than that most of this album's material is comprised of wild jams and improvisational moments that do work well in a live setting but not necessary transition that onto a live release. I generally tend to be more forgiving for mistakes that I see bands do when performing live since I'm getting a different type of energy from the whole experience that overshadows any minor flaws in the instrumental work. Here, these flaws become overbearing at times even though I don't consider myself a perfectionist when it comes to live albums.

With only Le Fleuve Et Le Manteau gapping the bridge between the past and future for Etron Fou Leloublan, En Public Aux États-Unis d'Amérique is quite a weird live album that I can't really recommend to anyone but the established fans. I'm sure that there are interesting moment to gain here if you've already acquired a taste for this band's music, but otherwise I'd definitely recommend starting with the studio albums.

**** star songs: Introduction (0:23) Christine (7:57) Rose (3:58) Atarte (Rappel) (0:45) Le Fleuve Et Le Manteau (8:28) Blanc (4:56)

*** star songs: Ida Trop Tard (6:56) Un Apres-midi Au Zoo (3:03) Et Puis (6:32) La Java Des Bombes Atomiques (2:44)

** star songs: Binet D'Eau Chaude (Impro) (3:57)

Review by DamoXt7942
FORUM & SITE ADMIN GROUP Avant/Cross/Neo/Post Teams
4 stars Fascinatingly refined performance on stage I've felt via this live album. Wondering why this stuff cannot get appreciated so highly. As the title says, "En Public Aux 'tats-Unis d'Am'rique" was recorded for their gig in US and released 1979 as their first live album. Sadly I could not attend any of their live performances and have never directly touched environment around their stage, but via this album (not bad as for recording condition and technique on stage) you can feel chilling atmosphere and enthusiastic intention easily ... guess kind of musical cynic and arrogant (in a sense) attitude of theirs might have been comfort of the audience. There would have been a inner mind synchronicity between Etron Fou Leloublan and the audience in front of the stage, I imagine. In this creation their melodic / rhythmic progression like a toy-box is quite vivid and delightful.

From the first song "Christine" their improvisational sound marriage featuring Chris' crazy saxophone is bombastically exploded. Rhythmic complication, distorted voices, and sometimes graceful, uptempo footsteps are cool indeed. On the contrary, the third one "Rose" sounds more of deformed down-tempo depression. In "Un Apres-midi Au Zoo" Guigou's flexible percussion is sort of breakthrough for "visible sounds". One of my faves is "Binet D'eau Chaude" maybe played as improvised material, where are plenty of complex instrumental battles. Talking of cynic, "La Java Des Bombes Atomiques" full of French chanson flavour seasoned with funky voices and sincere organ sounds.

Kaleidoscopic sound variation and diversity give them a definite position in RIO subgenre. This live album could be thought as their status itself, let me say. Yes my love.

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4 stars This album is amazing in my opinion, not least because one of the best bands - Etron Fou LeLoublan - actually came to Hartford CT and recorded half their live album there. This courtesy of the Alien Rock crew at WTRC Trinity College. Etron Fou were very obscure in 1979, this was like a per ... (read more)

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