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THIRD QUADRANT was an English band who were mostly active in the 1980's, issuing four albums in that decade. The last of these, "Layered", was later reissued by Italian label Mellow Records in 1993.

The members of the band were Chris Dunn (keyboards, vocals), Simeon Manners (guitars), Chris Palin (bass) and Chris Hare (drums).

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3.43 | 23 ratings
Seeing Yourself as You Really Are
1982
2.90 | 15 ratings
Layered
1988
4.91 | 3 ratings
Universal Circles
2024

THIRD QUADRANT Live Albums (CD, LP, MC, SACD, DVD-A, Digital Media Download)

2.75 | 4 ratings
Live 2012
2012

THIRD QUADRANT Videos (DVD, Blu-ray, VHS etc)

THIRD QUADRANT Boxset & Compilations (CD, LP, MC, SACD, DVD-A, Digital Media Download)

3.04 | 8 ratings
re:generator
2016

THIRD QUADRANT Official Singles, EPs, Fan Club & Promo (CD, EP/LP, MC, Digital Media Download)

4.00 | 2 ratings
N = R* Fp Ne Fl Fi Fc L
1981
3.20 | 5 ratings
deadStar:1
2013
2.75 | 4 ratings
62:miles
2013
2.75 | 4 ratings
Carbon:14
2013

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 Universal Circles by THIRD QUADRANT album cover Studio Album, 2024
4.91 | 3 ratings

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Universal Circles
Third Quadrant Neo-Prog

Review by tszirmay
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

5 stars The following dialog was picked up by prog intelligence units: Sentry Post 12 to Base Commander- intruders detected! Please advise BC : Where exactly? SP12 : Third Quadrant , sir ! BC: What do you see ? SP12 : for now, Universal Circles , expertly concealed. What are your orders ? BC: Just listen for now and follow their every move, do not lose them!

Third Quadrant released albums in 1982 and 1988, promptly vanishing from the radar screens as if stealth technology had shown up to mask their movements, I actually have the latter "Layered" album and remember liking it without waving any white flag of surrender. Thirty-six years later, they reappear, three of the four original members showing up for rollcall. David Forster (guitars, bass and vocals), Chris Dunn (keyboards and vocals) and Chris Hare (drums) are now joined by Clive Mollart on added keyboards. The definition of patience, Sun Tzu would be proud!

"Relentless" sets the tone, a dual keyboard assault with intricate synthesizer weaving in and out of the bass and drum minefield, supported by guitar, piano, pipe organ and mellotron brigades and harangued by shrouded vocal work from the two commanding officers. Imagine a much proggier version of Ultravox, as every one of the 6 tracks are 8 minutes or more and arranged with clever transitional variations that still keep the fighting spirit unyielding! This is a stunning first salvo!

Perhaps a code word for a specific maneuver, the camouflaged attack of "Delta Passing " suggests a resolute anthemic quality, melodically suave, with soaring vocal lamentations, and intensely cinematographic battle footage that has a palpable sense of courage under fire. Voice effects add to the sweeping mellotron and synth bombardments, as the shrieking electric guitar detonations blast through the smoke choked engagement, elevating the yearning for victory at all costs! Impressive. No time for R and R, as they rapidly lay siege to the fortress with the monumental "Spiral", a decidedly more electronic take, with pinging synths brutally ramming into ponging organs, a painstakingly effective groove laid down like suppressive artillery fire. Before long, the sweeping symphonic melody kicks through the battlements, twisting beyond the crumbling defenses, penetrating deep into the heart of the fight. Spinetingling and brazen, the bass guitar-led pulse shatters through the line, like tanks on a rampage. The pleading begins, "ooh, ooh, ooh" joining the "aah, aah, aah", the synthesizer flares exploding in air, the valiant determination bent on fearlessly forging on. Absolute slayer track, deserving of constant airplay.

There is mercy shown in triumph , prisoners taken and cared for humanely , "The Kindness of Strangers" is a harrowing symphonic ballad, with melancholic overtones, and orchestrated accordingly. The robust bass guitar has a New Order feel to it, boldly up near the frontlines, as the immense chanting vocal delivery showcases an astounding ability to wail each note as if pleading for some well-deserved peace. An ultra cool jazzy guitar swirl adds a sense of relief to all the sensorial overkill, with an extended organ, piano synth solo in particular, doing wonders of the aching ears. The bombastic finale is amazing, absolutely splendid playing by the entire platoon.

The heroic, nearly 13 minute long "Dim and Distant Futures" is the other eradicating highlight, with a surly Hammond and synth onslaught, throttling rhythmic support from the glorious bass and drum specialists only adding to the thrill. When the magnificent vocal line introduces the haunting melody, the tingling begins as the door opens into another realm altogether, a swooping shimmer, a faint glimmer ahead, a more forceful second breath, with athletic, brazen, and intricate variations. This is a full-on progressive delight with a timeless sound, effortlessly transporting the listener to somewhere else, the grandiose mellotron strings surely are to blame for the heart stopping cannonade one feels in their chest. This could become a classic , if given some airplay. I have surrendered !

Just like an endless beginning , the sprawling "Big Circle" seals the crimson wax on the armistice , weapons ultimately laid down, heads bowed in respect, ready to face the future once again, with hope for a truly better world. This solemn composition is another gliding anthem, a softer, longer and more poignant version of "Astradyne", the instrumental opener off the Ultravox Vienna album.

This 2024 release is a massive surprise that thoroughly deserves a wider audience, as the music expressed has all the inherent qualities that define a masterwork. Repeated listens have only verified and confirmed my immediate appreciation and ultimately love for this scintillating work. Do not miss out on this one, regret is a terrible burden.

5 Colossal orbs

 Seeing Yourself as You Really Are by THIRD QUADRANT album cover Studio Album, 1982
3.43 | 23 ratings

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Seeing Yourself as You Really Are
Third Quadrant Neo-Prog

Review by Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer

3 stars One of the very first Neo Prog albums but this is much more than that. Released in 1982 this was actually their third release. There's more of a PINK FLOYD vibe than a Neo Prog one, and Sci-fi is a big part of their lyrics and sound. Spacey is the word. Their debut from 1980 was called "Voyage To Pluto" and the band is called THIRD QUADRANT. A four piece from the UK with the usual instruments plus electronics. I get why there's some really low ratings for this one. I mean the opener which is only just over a minute long but why open with a song that sounds like we get a bunch of drunks in a bar all singing with all the atmosphere of a bar. Or the closer, I mean the opener and closer are by far the two worst songs on here. The vocals and sound on that closer are painful.

Now for the good stuff. Check out "Backwards To The Future" if you will. It actually reminds me of DISCIPLINE for the dark, melancholic sound and the vocals. "Hen Rising" is over 13 minutes long, the longest by far. Spacey electronics pulse in and out for about 3 minutes then a beat and keyboards take over in atmosphere. This section ends around 5 minutes in as drums take over and Neo styled vocals as it plods along. A FLOYD vibe at 6 1/2 minutes then the tempo picks up thankfully with some nice bass. And it continues to change. "Gone Fission" is different with those chirping bird sounds and a beat before it kicks in but the birds hang around. Hey a cow bell after 1 1/2 minutes. Lots of PINK FLOYD references on "State Of Mind" especially the guitar but more than that.

A low 3 stars for this one.

 Seeing Yourself as You Really Are by THIRD QUADRANT album cover Studio Album, 1982
3.43 | 23 ratings

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Seeing Yourself as You Really Are
Third Quadrant Neo-Prog

Review by Warthur
Prog Reviewer

3 stars Third Quadrant were a neo-prog outfit from the UK's brief early 1980s prog boom who, if their debut album is anything to go by, owe more than a little debt to Pink Floyd. Indeed, guitarist Simeon Manners has David Gilmour's bluesy style down cold, and about this foundation the band construct a range of spacey numbers that represent perhaps a neo-prog take on space rock, just as Marillion and IQ came at the neo-prog idea from a more symphonic prog perspective by way of their Genesis and Camel influences.

The downfall of the album is in its production standards; although the sound quality isn't flat-out awful, it's clearly closer to a demo tape than a fully-realised release of the sort that a high-quality studio could turn out. It is rather a shame that Third Quadrant were working at a time when budget studio recording setups hadn't hit the level of quality they would in subsequent decades, because as it stands the quality of the material here is somewhat obscured by the production standards the band had available to them at the time. (Also, I think the vocals are a little weak, but perhaps that might be a fault of the recording quality or the mix as opposed to anything else.)

Apparently, the group members are still in contact with each other, at least as of 2004, and I kind of hope that they will give consideration to putting out a reunion album. Other groups like Comedy of Errors whose stories seemed done and dusted back in the 1980s have pulled off revivals lately and finally attained the level of attention from the prog world they have deserved, and Third Quadrant's sound is just different enough that it might be possible for them to do something similar. As it stands, the album is an interesting historical curio but is not, in and of itself, a lost classic.

 re:generator by THIRD QUADRANT album cover Boxset/Compilation, 2016
3.04 | 8 ratings

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re:generator
Third Quadrant Neo-Prog

Review by BrufordFreak
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

3 stars Lush though simple Neo Prog in the PINK FLOYD tradition from recently reunited UK progsters Third Quadrant, there is a definite 1980s vibe to some of the sounds and stylings here, but the songs are all pure ear candy for any retro-prog fans. One of the two lead vocalists has a distinctive familiarity to his voice--he sounds like the wonderful lead singer from JOHNNY HATES JAZZ, Clark DATCHLER. All songs are decent, if fairly simple--not unlike Tony PATTERSON's 2016 offering, Equations of Meaning though not nearly of the same skill, polish or effect. I am not fond of the use of these late-80s sounding dated keyboards--and the first two minutes of the opening song, "Bell:106" and of the album centerpeice, "Deadstar:1" as well as the entire closing number are almost purely space/electronica soundtrack filler.

1. "Bell:106" (6:51) sounds like a lost 1970s PINK FLOYD song. I love the bass and keyboard work, but the vocals are bit too close to Floydian precedents. (9/10)

2. "Carbon:14" (6:45) finds me really attracted to the bass play and the familiar tone of the lead vocalist. (9/10)

3. "62:miles" (4:25) piano-based sounds like it's still in a demo state; could have been developed more. (7/10)

4. "Page:217" (5:59) has some nice melodic moments. (8/10)

5. "Deadstar:1" (19:01) is obviously meant to be the album's centrepiece. Unfortunately, once one gets past the opening 2:20 space music intro, the band's 80s roots becomes quite evident in the sounds and styles used. Also made very obvious with this song is the rather poor engineering and production skills and/or equipment used for this album. At 19 minutes in length, I have to admit that I found this one to be a great disappointment; it made me feel as if I had wasted twenty minutes of my life. (6/10) 6. "3:arth" (3:36) is fairly nice background space music; nothing special. (7/10)

Great potential here as these gifted composers seem to need more time and effort to go into the development and production of their songs.

 Layered by THIRD QUADRANT album cover Studio Album, 1988
2.90 | 15 ratings

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Layered
Third Quadrant Neo-Prog

Review by apps79
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

3 stars For about 5 years nothing have been heard around Third Quadrant and the band was fairly considered dead, but in 1988 they returned with a new cassette album under the title ''Layered''.The official core has been reduced to a trio, as bassist Chris Palin was no more part of the band, and bass duties were provided by Dave Forster.This would have propably remained another very rare album by Third Quadrant, as a few hundred copies were pressed, if it wasn't for the team of Mellow Records, which reissued the album in 1993 on CD.

Soundwise Third Quadrant have not changed much compared to their debut, playing a laid-back Neo Prog with spacey overtones and a discreet New Wave vibe in the vocal parts, building their ideas on electrocacoustic changes reminiscent of YES and spacey keyboard textures in a style closer to PINK FLOYD.The music is quite accesible, often melancholic but always deeply atmospheric with balanced instrumentation, sensitive and clean vocals and a combination of cheerful rhythms and more elaborate synth-drenched textures.However their overall approach still holds strong similarities with the early explosion of the 80's New Wave of British Prog, even if they have adapted some evident New Wave stylings over the years.The material is quite interesting although far from trully exciting, not actually surpassing the quality of their debut for the most of its part.All these just before the ending, stunning instrumental ''Bloodbath'', where the prog influences of the group come fully on surface, offering propably the best track of the band in their early days.Dramatic, semi-symphonic Progressive Rock with PINK FLOYD, CAMEL and GENESIS touches, passing from atmospheric keyboard textures to rockier guitar moves to bombastic Classical-based Prog with a dominant, cinematic sound.

The last track along deserves a warm place in the heart of any Neo Progger out there and it's the one that makes ''Layered'' slightly better than Third Quadrant's debut.Recommended to all fans of 80's Neo Prog and even Space Rock.

 Layered by THIRD QUADRANT album cover Studio Album, 1988
2.90 | 15 ratings

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Layered
Third Quadrant Neo-Prog

Review by maryes

2 stars In my opinion, in his second studio albun of entitled "Layered", the English band THIRD QUADRANT, presents a sonority much more approximate of the pop music than of any category of progressive rock presented in Progarchives. Because, although the musicians that it composes the line up of the band make an effort in trying to create in some moments "progressive landscapes" as it happens for instance in the track 2 "Dreamtime" starting from 3 min 32 seconds (approximately), I think it is not enough for this work to receive a note that recommended an appreciation for the prog fans, in fact if we analyze for instance the track 4 "Chicken Run" we will see that she stays practically for all duration of 6 min 07 sec in the same rhythm! For the reasons exposed above, I cannot credit to this disk a good quotation. My rate is 2 stars.
 Layered by THIRD QUADRANT album cover Studio Album, 1988
2.90 | 15 ratings

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Layered
Third Quadrant Neo-Prog

Review by Fitzcarraldo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

3 stars The sleeve notes quote Kepler (1610): "Let us create vessels and sails adjusted to the heavenly ether and there will be plenty of people unafraid of the empty wastes." THIRD QUADRANT was a little-known band (Chris Dunn on synthesizer/vocals, Simeon Manners on guitars, and Chris Hare on drums), with help on this album from Dave Forster on bass. The band, from the North West of England, wrote, played, recorded and produced this album themselves, releasing it as a few hundred musicassettes (that's how I got hold of it back in 1988). Only a year or so ago I was delighted to discover that the album had been re-released by the Italian Progressive Rock label Mellow Records, this time on CD. It can be bought direct from Mellow Records or via some of the Web shops that specialise in the genre.

Although the music is not quite as polished as that of full-time musicians (these guys had day jobs!), the song writing is very good, the music pleasant and accessible, and this album can hold its own against many Prog Rock releases from better known Prog bands. I've been listening to this album since 1988, which should say something.

All of the tracks are good. My particular favourites are 'With Wings And Sails' and 'Famulus'. The style of music is rather less synthesizer-based and more guitar and drum based than other neo-Progressive bands that I've heard. Chris Dunn, who is also the singer (a good one, too), uses the synthesizer well, but it's usually woven into the music rather than up front and in your face. Simeon Manners' guitar work is very pleasing, with a variety of moods and styles throughout the album. Chris Hare's drums are a bit uninventive on the first track, but his drum work on later tracks is very good - I particularly like his African take in 'Chicken Run'. Bassist Dave Forster puts in a very credible performance too. If I had to draw any comparisons, I would say that there is a slight resemblance to YES, but THIRD QUADRANT very much have their own sound.

'Listen To The Sky' starts with a spacey, echoey intro but turns into an up-tempo number that pumps along with thumping bass and drums. The tune is good, as are the synth and guitars (particularly in a YES-like instrumental interlude).

'Dream Time' again has some good guitar and synth work with YES hints and is a pleasant tune. I like this one.

'With Wings And Sails' starts off as a calm number and then becomes boppy. It has some pleasant acoustic guitar, plus good bass and synth. The melody is excellent and it's a nice song. The drums are varied and noticeably good on this one. Towards the end of the track there is a great instrumental section with guitar, bass and drums.

'Chicken Run' is another thumper, with some pounding bass and drums. There is a sound bite of the BBC newsreader Michael Buerke talking about the tense situation in Africa. The bass and 'African' drumming on this track are particularly good.

'Famulus' is another track that starts with some good bass. It's a calmer number with a great tune and is a real foot-tapper. Part way through there is an instrumental section with some very good guitar.

'Bloodbath' is the only instrumental track on the album (although all the tracks have lengthy instrumental sections). The track has a bombastic start (think 'enter the gladiators') then some good drums kick in, the synth produces the sound of an explosion, and the track speeds up with guitar for a while before returning to the slow theme from the beginning. There are several changes in tempo and style: the piece has slow, upbeat and helter skelter moments, with choppy axe then war drums, and some good sounds from the synth.

Overall, then, this is an interesting album and a worthwhile investment in my opinion. I would give it 3.5 stars if such a thing were possible but will go with 3 (Good, but non-essential) although I'm tempted to bump it up to 4 (Excellent addition to any Prog Rock collection). I'm certainly pleased to have it in my collection.

 Seeing Yourself as You Really Are by THIRD QUADRANT album cover Studio Album, 1982
3.43 | 23 ratings

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Seeing Yourself as You Really Are
Third Quadrant Neo-Prog

Review by chris

5 stars Well ahead of its time, if you like Cold Play and Pink Floyd you will love this. Try it if you can find it ! Very few copies stayed in the UK and very few gigs were played. The band split after Layered but still stay in contact. Chris Hare - Drums, Chris Dunn - Keybords and Vocals, Chris Palin - Bass Guitar and Simeon Manners - Lead guitar and technology ! There were 4 albums in total:

1. Captain Al Cohols Voyage to Pluto (1980) 2. N = R* Fp Ne Fl Fi Fc L (1981) 3. Seeing yourself as you really are (1982) 4. Layered (1988)

Seing yourself and Layered were probably the best albums. Seing yourself had good reviews at the time in Sounds.

This may be a biased review but I was the bass player !

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