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Formed in 1977 in Oakville, Ontario, Canada - Disbanded (announced) in 2017

SAGA... one of the most famous Canadian Hard Progresssive with excellent albums including all elements which made the band's reputation: a taste for symphonism and melodies and real talent for efficient riffs.

From 1978 to 1980, SAGA produced a number of quintessentially "progressive" rock albums. These first albums emerged neo-progressive style bands like IQ, PENDRAGON and PALLAS. In the early's 80's they further perfected their style and seemed a bit as viable as their Canadian compatriots RUSH. Until 1989, suddenly SAGA re-emerged with arguably their strongest album to date: "The Beginner's Guide To Throwing Shapes". They went totally haywire in 1995, releasing "Generation 13" to be a real concept album.

Throughout the years, they created their own particular and unique brand of music. Well, they're still around and they are still making great music but unfortunately radio stations no longer play intelligent, riveting, songs anymore. So, if you're into groups like KANSAS, ASIA, RUSH, STYX, or YES, a new dimension of music awaits you... SAGA!

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SAGA top albums (CD, LP, MC, SACD, DVD-A, Digital Media Download)

3.71 | 268 ratings
Saga
1978
3.28 | 259 ratings
Images at Twilight
1979
3.71 | 271 ratings
Silent Knight
1980
3.70 | 298 ratings
Worlds Apart
1981
3.56 | 231 ratings
Heads or Tales
1983
3.05 | 163 ratings
Behaviour
1985
2.26 | 127 ratings
Wildest Dreams
1987
3.00 | 118 ratings
The Beginners Guide to Throwing Shapes
1989
3.55 | 143 ratings
The Security Of Illusion
1993
2.13 | 109 ratings
Steel Umbrellas
1994
3.95 | 192 ratings
Generation 13
1995
2.20 | 99 ratings
Pleasure & The Pain
1997
3.48 | 138 ratings
Full Circle
1999
3.54 | 155 ratings
House Of Cards
2001
3.30 | 126 ratings
Marathon
2003
3.46 | 122 ratings
Network
2004
3.81 | 201 ratings
Trust
2006
3.64 | 139 ratings
10.000 Days
2007
3.49 | 122 ratings
The Human Condition
2009
3.28 | 108 ratings
20/20
2012
3.28 | 97 ratings
Sagacity
2014
3.66 | 53 ratings
Symmetry
2021

SAGA Live Albums (CD, LP, MC, SACD, DVD-A, Digital Media Download)

3.72 | 118 ratings
In Transit
1982
4.02 | 45 ratings
Detours
1999
3.79 | 43 ratings
The Chapters Live
2005
3.54 | 29 ratings
Worlds Apart Revisited (CD)
2007
2.71 | 25 ratings
Contact Live in Munich
2009
3.11 | 19 ratings
Heads Or Tales Live
2011
4.50 | 14 ratings
Spin It Again! Live in Munich
2013
4.10 | 12 ratings
Live in Hamburg
2016
4.67 | 15 ratings
So Good So Far - Live at Rock of Ages
2018

SAGA Videos (DVD, Blu-ray, VHS etc)

3.56 | 18 ratings
Silhouette
2003
4.00 | 15 ratings
All Areas: Live in Bonn 2002
2004
4.44 | 33 ratings
Worlds Apart Revisited
2007
3.61 | 16 ratings
Contact - Live In Munich (DVD)
2009
4.58 | 12 ratings
Spin it again! - Live in Munich
2013

SAGA Boxset & Compilations (CD, LP, MC, SACD, DVD-A, Digital Media Download)

3.00 | 2 ratings
Saga
1985
3.00 | 3 ratings
Time's Up
1986
3.00 | 16 ratings
The Works
1991
2.00 | 1 ratings
Wind Him Up: Best
1992
4.36 | 13 ratings
All the Best 1978-1993
1993
1.82 | 12 ratings
The Very Best Of Saga
1994
3.16 | 12 ratings
Defining Moments (Volume 1)
1994
2.67 | 6 ratings
Saga Softworks
1995
2.00 | 2 ratings
Wildest Dreams
1995
2.50 | 8 ratings
How Do I Look
1997
2.60 | 5 ratings
Remember When
2006
3.00 | 1 ratings
The Collection
2013
3.85 | 4 ratings
Best Of Saga. Now & Then - The Collection: 1978 - Infinity
2015
2.15 | 4 ratings
The Polydor Legacy
2017

SAGA Official Singles, EPs, Fan Club & Promo (CD, EP/LP, MC, Digital Media Download)

3.15 | 4 ratings
How Long?
1978
2.50 | 2 ratings
Slow Motion
1980
4.00 | 2 ratings
On the Loose
1981
4.00 | 2 ratings
Time's Up
1981
4.00 | 2 ratings
Wind Him Up
1981
3.00 | 1 ratings
Synposis
1981
3.00 | 1 ratings
The Flyer
1983
2.00 | 1 ratings
Scratching the Surface (remixed version)
1983
2.87 | 4 ratings
Scratchin' the Surface
1983
2.00 | 1 ratings
Take a Chance
1985
2.00 | 1 ratings
What Do I Know?
1985
2.00 | 1 ratings
Only Time Will Tell
1987
2.00 | 1 ratings
Angel
1988
2.50 | 2 ratings
Gotta Love It
1991
2.00 | 1 ratings
(You Were) Never Alone
1994
3.50 | 2 ratings
On the Loose
1995
3.13 | 22 ratings
Phase One
1997
3.50 | 6 ratings
Home
1999
3.50 | 6 ratings
Money Talks
2001
4.36 | 13 ratings
It's Your Life
2006

SAGA Reviews


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 The Human Condition by SAGA album cover Studio Album, 2009
3.49 | 122 ratings

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The Human Condition
Saga Crossover Prog

Review by Sidscrat

4 stars I hope I do not attract any haters by saying this. Michael Sadler is the voice of Saga and without that voice it really is a different band??. What I just said is completely false! His distinctive vocals are unique and no one sounds like him but the Saga sound is deeper than a voice. With Ian Crichton's guitar and Jim Gilmour's keys and the rhythm section they have, the band is also and unique. Ian's guitar is as unique as Sadler's voice. I never imagined that he would leave the band but then again he is a vocalist and they tend to like going solo (Collins, Gabriel, Cetera, and on and on) and they think they can do even better than their band in some cases. I think that vocalists also have a bit more pride being the fronters and Sadler has always struck me as having a bit of an ego to say ten least (Please, no haters). I get this by watching them live.

He stated that he was leaving to focus on family but he also went and made a solo album. I thought it was interesting that his "Bye-Bye" was short-short. Solo didn't work well for him and he may have thought the band could not be successful without him. But this album proves that Saga is more than a vocalist. I do like that fact that this band doesn't suffer from the infighting and bad blood that most bands do. These guys really do get along and are friends so my musings here could be complete horse hockey! They are a class act and that alone is a good reason to have them recognized.

The band has always been passed over and underrated by critics and record labels. Their catalog is extensive with many good records and definitely some that were no so good and even bad. "The Human Condition" shocked me when it came out. For one thing the band decided to continue. I got this album immediately and took a road trip and fell in love with the thing! This is the best album they have put out in ages! It is crazy how well it sounds and many of the songs really are top notch. Most of the newer albums only have a few tracks each that I really care for and this record had several.

The title track comes screaming on right up front with no words other than a vocoder (which was really not needed). This instrumental is unlike anything the band had done for the most part. The closest thing to it was the rare instrumental "Corkentellis" off "10,000 Days" which came before this album. The riffs on this first song are great and it is as if the band were making a statement right up front and that statement is: "We are still here and we aren't going anywhere!" It is almost a finger to Sadler saying "We are just fine without you pal!" LOL?? Okay, so maybe not but I think the band was definitely making that first statement loud and clear. That track left goosebumps on me and is one of my all time favorite Saga songs. This is a prog track for sure.

My other favorites on the album are "A Number With A Name" and "You Look Good To Me." On both I like the instrumentation. Rob Moratti is no Michael Sadler and I am glad of it as it gives the band a fresh sound. My other favorite track is the hard rocking "Let It Go" which the driving guitar work reminds me of "Once Is Never Enough" off "The Security Of Illusion" album. I can crank that one up and hear it over and over.

I could not believe the excitement this album caused in me. Being a fan of the band since day one I had gotten used to albums that were okay but nothing special. When they released "Generation 13" and essentially gave us the most incredible modern pro rock opera I thought they had hit their artistic peak and in many ways they did bit this album proved that they were still able to crank out good solid songs.

Sadly this is the last of the best albums. Sadler's return came on the next album and "20/20" was okay and "Sagacity" was just so-so. I tend to wonder what the band would have released next if Sadler had not returned. Hmmmm?.. The album is not a 4 star unless I consider the the title track. That prog song helps pay for the songs that are not as strong.

 Trust by SAGA album cover Studio Album, 2006
3.81 | 201 ratings

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Trust
Saga Crossover Prog

Review by Sidscrat

4 stars Saga is good at getting on a roll and putting out albums with similar themes such as their Chapters songs and the consistent album covers with the "Bug" on them and then suddenly breaking it up and doings something different as they did with then previous album "Network". While the album is okay it is nothing special and on my review of it I noted the loss of Steve Negus their original drummer whose technique was definitely part of the Saga sound. It is missed especially on "Network where they got what sounds like a rookie who couldn't even keep time on one song and whose drumming was very basic.

It reminded me of Marillion's debut album, "Script For A Jester's Tear" with the founder of the group Mick Pointer. The band had to fire him after recording the album. Can you imagine being the founder of a group and building it and then the group you built comes and throws you out?! There were some circumstances though such as the band asking him to maybe take lessons to adapt to progressive music. If you listen to that album, Mick's drumming is so painfully basic that it takes the prog out of the music! I am saying this not to review "Script" but to point out how important drumming is to especially prog rock. Christian Simpson was not a good fit for Saga and here they find Brian Doerner who becomes their new guy and who will last a long spell. He is sufficient with the sticks to say the least.

"Trust" is an album that I can trust to deliver the goods. When I first heard it I was not that impressed but after letting it grow on me, it has become one of the good keepers and again the drums are miked and in the mix in a good way. The songs on this album are good hitters. "I'm Okay" is a great track that moves through some different sections well. "It's Your Life" is a great track that rock it through and the tile track is decent too. The playing is fantastic with Ian screaming along and Jim Gilmour at his usual great playing. With the soloing team of Crichton and Gilmour, that makes the Saga sound and there would be no point in continuing the band if they lost Ian as his playing is so recognizable.

"Trust" is an improvement over the past several albums and is worthy of a good rating.

 Network by SAGA album cover Studio Album, 2004
3.46 | 122 ratings

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Network
Saga Crossover Prog

Review by Sidscrat

3 stars Saga shifted gears on this album and dumped the famous Chapters and bug cover plus made another change; one that I am not all that fond of and thankfully only lasted one album. Steve Negus, their original drummer is no longer part of the band. His drumming was unique and fit the music wonderfully. I saw a review on another Saga album where the reviewer thought he was not a good drummer and I have no idea how he could think that. Just listen to "Generation 13" and "The Security Of Illusion" as 2 examples.

Christian Simpson is the new guy and only lasted one album. One of the best tracks on the album is "Don't Look Now" and the sound of the drums is not what it normally is. During the middle section where Ian is jamming that consistent riff and the drums kick back in you can actually hear that the best is off a little. Saga is a band with serious professional musicians and this drummer sounds like they got a rookie off the street. This impacts teh overall album for me.

In all, the album is okay but I didn't find anything earth shattering about it. Most all of the albums after "House Of Cards" I find to have a few songs on each that I like and the rest I am okay with but there really isn't anything that sticks out for me. It is a decent entry but if you are a first timers with the band, I would try a few of the ones I mentioned and their First Foundational Four.

 House Of Cards by SAGA album cover Studio Album, 2001
3.54 | 155 ratings

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House Of Cards
Saga Crossover Prog

Review by Sidscrat

4 stars Saga Discography to this point: (My ratings)

The Foundational First Four - 1978-1981: Saga, Images At Twilight, Silent Knight, World's Apart

The Falling Flat Four - 1982-1991: Heads Or Tales, Behaviour, Wildest Dreams, The Beginners Guide to Throwing Shapes

The Up And Down 5 - Security Of Illusion UP, Steel Umbrellas DOWN, Generation 13 WAY UP, Pleasure & The Pain DOWN, Full Circle UP (Sort Of)

Saga has been through a wild ride over the years and can confuse people on what genre of music they play. Many say they are not prog, some say sort of prog but very few ever say definite prog. They killed all doubt with the release of the amazing rock opera concept "Generation 13" but they went back to mediocre after that. After a slight come back with "Full Circle" and a return to using their old bug mascot and the Chapters it was refreshing to see that they came out next with this good entry. This album really does what the last should have: Come Full Circle back to form. They are closing in on the end of the classic lineup as they would be losing Steve Negus (drums) after the next album, "Marathon" which was like "Full Circle" in that it has a few good songs but isn't tremendous.

The Chapters are songs that appeared on the first 4 albums and they emerged again along with their old mascot, the bug on the last album. The band revealed these over a 28-year period in a mixed-up order, creating a conceptual puzzle. In its final form, The Chapters tells a science fiction story concerning the preservation of Albert Einstein's brain, aliens who are concerned with humanity's self-destruction, and the resurrection of the dead through technology. We have chapters 11 & 15 on this album. Being that I started listening to them early on, this story on the chapters was not ever revealed until after they were done presenting the songs so if you are looking for the meaning I recommend their live album titled none other than "The Chapters."

"House Of Cards" is an album that harkens to the days of old in the structure and originality of the songs. There are strong hooks throughout the record and many songs are very good. My biggest pick is "Ashes To Ashes (Chapter 11)". The melody and guitar work is amazing and Jim Gilmour's keys are a great asset. "Money Talks" and "House Of Cards" are good as well. "We'll Meet Again" sounds a lot like songs from their early years. "That's How We Like IT" is another great solid song. "So Good So Far" has Sadler singing like he did on "Gen 13". The production quality is fantastic which is one thing they have improved on from their beginnings. You hear everything well and the arrangements and sound are tight. Ian Crichton who is one of the most criminally underrated guitarist of all time is in form on this album. It is sad that players like him are passed over with "Ian who?". Watching him play live is a treat as he makes it look so easy. He rips riffs and crunches mass numbers of notes in no time at all. While many guitarists use the tapping method to rip fast runs, Ian doesn't need to.

Conversely Jim Gilmour is right up there with the best keyboardists and to this day he is good. Saga will always be a band that deserves to be recognized but never will be. The R&R Hall Of Shame (Which is what it should be called) takes in some of the most derelict one hit wonders and ignores bands that are amazing like Kansas and others who have put in the time and work and have actual musical talent. It took eons to get yes and Rush inducted. Well Saga will not get there in my lifetime or theirs for that matter.

But I digress??. This album is a great come back to form album that is not great in all places but great where it counts. This is their best in years (minus Gen 13).

 Full Circle by SAGA album cover Studio Album, 1999
3.48 | 138 ratings

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Full Circle
Saga Crossover Prog

Review by Sidscrat

3 stars Back to the foundation? Sort of. Bombing out with the painful "The Pleasure And The Pain" they come back to their roots in some ways. The Chapters are back. The Chapters are songs that appeared on the first 4 albums and here they finally emerge again along with their old mascot, the bug. The band revealed these over a 28-year period in a mixed-up order, creating a conceptual puzzle. In its final form, The Chapters tells a science fiction story concerning the preservation of Albert Einstein's brain, aliens who are concerned with humanity's self-destruction, and the resurrection of the dead through technology. We have chapters 9, 10 and 13 on this album; usually there were only 2 on each one. Being that I started listening to them early on, this story on the chapters was not ever revealed until after they were done presenting the songs so if you are looking for the meaning I recommend their live album titled none other than "The Chapters."

While this is a good flashback to then good old days the music is just so-so but better than many albums. The songs "Remember When (Chapter 9)" and "Night To Remember" are one is like. Many of the songs are just fluff and not all that memorable. Steve Negus is back again after bowing out of the last album (he didn't have to be in Pain). This one gets a few stars but at least the next album delivers more.

 Pleasure & The Pain by SAGA album cover Studio Album, 1997
2.20 | 99 ratings

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Pleasure & The Pain
Saga Crossover Prog

Review by Sidscrat

1 stars WTH!? De ja vue, the voodoo is in you?.. This is so weird. Just when you think that Saga is on a roll, they roll off the ledge. After putting out a group of poor records after their Foundational First Four, they came back with "The Security Of Illusion" and recaptured some decent credibility only to turn around and put out "Steel Umbrellas" another poor entry. BUT THEN?? they come back with the best prog album of their career with "Generation 13." That album took away any doubts that they have a deep prog side to them.

And here we are again?.. Just coming off that we are now faced with Pain, not Pleasure. I struggle to find anything that decent on this. It isn't completely bad but for then most part it just seems like they threw something together and stuck it out there. It is moves like this that kill a band's credibility. Saga tends to jump around a great deal flirting with various musical styles.

Their awesome drummer Steve Negus bowed out of this one for some reason but comes back on the next album.

This one is definitely painful.

 Generation 13 by SAGA album cover Studio Album, 1995
3.95 | 192 ratings

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Generation 13
Saga Crossover Prog

Review by Sidscrat

5 stars Yay! Joygasm!!! This is by far the most prog that Saga ever was and ever has been since. They came back in 1993 after a slump with "The Security Of Illusion" which brought back drummer Steve Negus and keyboardist Jim Gilmour so the classic lineup was again complete. That album was a comeback and scored high but the follow up was a dismal yougottabekiddingme! "Steel Umbrellas" was awful and I could only pull one song off it that was any good (It was not worthy of a review here). This album came out with a massive shock after that dismal album and as a long time fan after "Security" I would have thought they would follow it with something better but NOOOO! That added to the shock factor of this album. The amount of musical work that went into this was staggering for the band and stretched their talents all the way out. The album show Saga at its best talented wise as their musicianship was at the top.

Jim Crichton (bass) has always been one of the chief songwriters and he is the one who came up with the concept and music for a lot of what would become an oasis in the desert of a band who is labeled as prog but only dips into it. This is solid prog all the way.

The musicianship is tight and solid and the production is superb. Other than a few songs that are underwhelming it is a masterpiece that does not get the attention it should have. But this was past the era of concept prog albums of their age so it didn't get a lot of attention. The album rocks hard and Ian's guitar work is great in most places though there are some songs that would have been perfect to rip a solo but become lost opportunities.

The "Generation 13 (Theme #1)" starts out great and is reprised later to start the 2nd disc (Theme #2) and that version is ripping hard rock bordering on heavy metal. The bass work is killer on "The Cross (Home #3)". The story of Sam is very cohesive and for the most part clear and tragic ("Don't forget my cross!"). The orchestra work is timely and used well and not overblown so that it takes away from the band. Negus was and still is the best drummer they ever had and it was a shame he left is 2003 for good. His work on this album is superb.

"The 13th Generation" is a creepy song with that interesting vox like voice but so well done. The entire instrument section is flawless. We get to hear more than just Sadler singing in this album. "The Learning Tree" is another hot song and the beat and atmosphere is effective. Ian's guitar work is astounding in this song and we are introduced to the little higher pitched guy's voice. This is a prog song thick and thin. This album pulls ate the heartstrings better than a lot of these rock opera albums. "I'll Never be Like You" is a very emotional entry on the album.

"The Victim" all the way through to the end is connected well and the climax with "Sam's New Friend" brings the movement to a crashing end only to be replaced with "We Hope You're Feeling Better". "One Small Step" is so creepy with the little voice and the orchestra come crashing back in. This song really brings the prog together and it is a great example of how to mix an orchestra with rock instruments especially the guitar.

Saga like all bands doesn't get it all right most of the time but this is an exception. This is the pinnacle of their prog side and this rock opera is better done than most rock operas of the past were. They get a perfect and rare 5!

 The Security Of Illusion by SAGA album cover Studio Album, 1993
3.55 | 143 ratings

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The Security Of Illusion
Saga Crossover Prog

Review by Sidscrat

4 stars Okay, now that is better! Having been a Saga fan since their beginnings when the first 4 foundational albums were made, they got into pop and new wave land and took a massive dive. They are hard to clearly categorize as prog but they definitely lean that way. So it doesn't take much to fall out of that arena and they did and flopped big time. After losing Steve Negus (drums) and Jim Gilmour (keys) they put out 2 of the worst entries they have.

This album sees a resurgence for the 90's even though the next album goes AWOL again. When this came out I bought it not expecting it to be any different and I was surprised. It isn't tremendous on all songs but it is great on many. The production is top notch. The low and high ends are powerful. This is the best produced album up to this point.

It starts with a short intro setting the stage for a good song "Mind Over Matter" and that leads into one of their best songs, "Once Is Never Enough" which showcases an Ian Crichton who is on steroids. His guitar work has emerged on this album and you cane here easily then maturity and level of complex playing he was into at that point. This song is fantastic and serves as a solid rocker. It isn't progish by any means. "Stand Up" is decent, "Days Like These" has more great guitar work and the big end song "Without You" is brutal on guitar, bass and drums.

This Saga is a departure some from the earlier one but they at least came back into what they were best at: Putting out music with boldness knowing where to lighten up and where to come on strong. Sadly the follow up is another bomb but what follows that is PROG.

 The Beginners Guide to Throwing Shapes by SAGA album cover Studio Album, 1989
3.00 | 118 ratings

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The Beginners Guide to Throwing Shapes
Saga Crossover Prog

Review by Sidscrat

2 stars Huh? After listening to this album many times I still do not see how it is a 'comeback' or 'return to form' album. It is better than the previous 2 albums "Behaviour" and worse yet "Wildest Dreams". But this is not a Saga that I can easily say is anything like the one of the first 4 albums which is the core foundation for the band. "Heads Or Tales" was not all that great either and started them down the path of trying to create pop success.

As far as I am concerned Saga took a full decade off from putting out good albums. They put out the really good 4 followed by the not so good 4 but this album marked the end of the slide. Sure, the slide was slowing on this record but not enough. Saga is hard enough to categorize as prog for many people so it doesn't take much to push them into pop land chasing new wave sensibilities which is what they did.

When they sacked Steve Negus (drums) and Jim Gilmour (keys) it was said to be over management issues but that may be a mask for musical direction. They went on to form a band of their own. Thankfully they came back for the follow up to this album.

The songs that stand out a little are "How Do I Look" which is good but there is too much overly digital electronic noise with a disco beat. The guitar work is good which is why the song is notable. "Shape" is decent enough. The song "The Nineties" is catchy and not such a bad tune. But again they focused too much on electronic sounds which was part of that era but not part of who they were.

If this is a 'return to form' it is only a return to "heads Or Tales" which is a far cry from their earlier work. At least they were about to do something to make right some wrongs.

 Heads or Tales by SAGA album cover Studio Album, 1983
3.56 | 231 ratings

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Heads or Tales
Saga Crossover Prog

Review by Sidscrat

2 stars This album marks the beginning of the downward slide. Having tasted success under Rupert Hine's good production with "World's Apart" and getting their mugs and bums on MTV with a couple hits Saga went back with Hine and recorded this thing. The first 4 albums marked their signature to begin though they went on to put out some great albums later in their next solid stage. A weakness had been production with albums not sounding well sonically but Hine came threw as he has on so many great band's albums. But with success comes the desire to have more and bands can either take 2 paths: 1) Stay with who you are and keep on truckin OR 2) Try and be something you are not to win fans and money. Sadly they did the latter and the result was not good.

Hine's productions are good overall but they can also be very thin cheating the lower end and this album is a good example. It is too soaked in highs and starving for lows. The bass is barely evident. They did get a few more pings on the charts with "Cat Walk" which there is an extended version which just means it repeats itself way too much and "The Flyer". While the former is cute and punchy the latter does nothing to ping my excit-o-meter. "Scratching The Surface" written by Gilmour is decent enough but this album cannot be considered prog at all. They were trying to dabble into new wave and it didn't work well for them.

They got away from the formula that worked and alienated fans like me. I remember when it came out and being excited to get it and then I was all like "HUH?" Definitely an example of seeking cash instead of focusing on the music itself. Now I will say that in the soloing department Ian Crichton found his groove and this album starts the birth of the guitar standing out much more but from a prog standpoint (the purpose of this site) the album is a bomb.

This record would begin a slide for the band that would not end for several years. "Behavior" would bomb and mark the firing of Negas (Drums) and Gilmour (Keys) over direction. Thankfully the Crichton's and Sadler would come to their senses and bring them both back but not until "Wildest Dreams" disgraced them.

Moral of the story: Stick to what works.

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