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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Just wondering what was going on here on home page
2 reviews same album, same reviewer, different reviews Dark End of the Street Moving Hearts Prog Folk Review by kenethlevine — First review of this album — Following up a debut like "Moving Hearts" the previous year must have been a daunting task, and subsequent partial implosion was inevitable, but MOVING HEARTS easily met the challenge on "Dark End of The Street". This is more an album of its time and, while still arguably a classic, isn't entirely in the same league as its predecessor. The album opens with perhaps its weakest track, "Remember the Brave Ones", penned by Christy Moore's brother Barry, soon to be known as LUKA BLOOM. It's not bad but a bit overwrought and marred by period synthesizers. Still, "All I Remember", while easily the poppiest song ever released by the group, manages to buck the signature sound more convincingly, like an affectionate cross between BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN and RUNRIG. The title track is a convincing interpretation of a classic folk song with lyrics that can be applied to one's own unique circumstances. "Allende" and "Let Somebody Know" are both warm ballads, while "Half Moon" is a languid and lovely instrumental with bass, sax and piano blending sultrily. "What will you do about me" is probably the most transcendent piece here, sung from the point of view of an aging peacenik environmentalist who refuses to give up the ghost much to the chagrin of the authorities. The chorus makes one and one's hairs stand equally at attention and the sax, pipes, lead guitars and synths round out this roughly woven and moody number. Highly recommended even if somewhat dated, "Dark End of the Street" shines at the 4.5 star level even today. Send comments to kenethlevine | Report this review (#734866) Dark End of the Street Moving Hearts Prog Folk Review by kenethlevine — First review of this album — Following the success of the two classic MOVING HEARTS albums in the UK and Ireland, WEA released a compilation with the highlights of both for American consumption, curiously named after and endowed with the same cover as the second of these. It is a good representation of the scope of the group's Celtic rock signature sound. The album is slightly weakened by one song in particular that does not mesh well even within that admittedly broad lexicon. That song is Barry Moore's "Remember the Brave Ones". Barry was to re-brand himself as LUKA BLOOM and meet with moderate success in America, as a way of thrusting out from under his brother Christy's dominance in the nest. This track doesn't even sound like Luka, and, while thematically in step with the political struggles concept, is musically a bit more 80s sounding, with synthesizers played by Donal Lunny. Still, it does have that indelible spirit, and sounds better now than I remember it in the day. The compilers also chose to include two rather rote pipe led instrumentals, where one would have easily been sufficient. For the rest, apart from superb "Hiroshima Nagasaki Russian Roulette" and "No Time for Love" originally on the self titled album, we are treated to several winners culled from the second release, the urgent "What Will You Do About Me" being the best of these. It flawlessly channels the peace movement of the 1960s but from the perspective of one old enough who have been there in the first place, telling us that he didn't abandon those values for the comforts of the bourgeois lifestyle. He's sticking around for the long haul, and what shall we do about him. "Let Somebody Know" is a gentle feeling ballad, and "Dark End of the Street" shows they could tackle full-on soul numbers and transform them into subversive Irish folk. "Half Moon" is a lovely bass-led instrumental, with timely piano rolls, on par with "Lake of Shadows" off the debut, omitted here. If you are a vinyl collector in America, you might find one of these around, and it would be worth the search. Since only 2 tracks from the second album are missing here (both good ones of course), you might be fine with just the debut and this compilation. But, if a true collector, seek out the two original albums in all their glory. This street is well worth travelling whether in darkness or in light. |
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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^^^^ Actually are the albums slightly different - thats weird using the same front cover for 2 separate albums....
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Dean
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That's what Ken said
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What?
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alinux
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Dear Friends,
Here you are other rating manipulation: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=40415 For 2012 it's ASTRA oriented user:
LANDMARQ Entertaining Angels (rating only) MESHUGGAH Koloss (rating only) ALCEST Les Voyages De L'Âme (rating only) THE MARS VOLTA Noctourniquet (rating only) GAZPACHO March of Ghosts (rating only) PROFUSION Rewotower (rating only) KOTEBEL Concerto For Piano And Electric Ensemble (rating only) MOTORPSYCHO The Death Defying Unicorn (rating only) ANATHEMA Weather Systems (rating only) HEMINA Synthetic (rating only) ANTI-DEPRESSIVE DELIVERY The Best Of Antidepressive Delivery (rating only) PAVEL FAJT Pluto - Tri (rating only) HAKEN Aquarius (rating only) YES Going for the One (rating only) YES Relayer (rating only) YES Tales From Topographic Oceans (rating only) YES Close To The Edge (rating only) YES Fragile (rating only) YES The Yes Album (rating only) YES Time and a Word (rating only) YES Yes (rating only) GENESIS A Trick Of The Tail (rating only) GENESIS The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (rating only) GENESIS Selling England By The Pound (rating only) GENESIS Foxtrot (rating only) GENESIS Nursery Cryme (rating only) GENESIS Trespass (rating only) AFTER CRYING Föld és ég (rating only) AFTER CRYING Megalázottak és Megszomorítottak (rating only) ASTRA Winter Witch / Cosmic Wind (rating only) ASTRA The Weirding (rating only) ASTRA The Black Chord (rating only) IAN ANDERSON Ian Anderson Plays the Orchestral Jethro Tull (rating only) IAN ANDERSON Ian Anderson Plays the Orchestral Jethro Tull (rating only) MOVING HEARTS Live Hearts (rating only) NEAL MORSE ? (rating only) YES Tormato (rating only) MITTELWINTERNACHT '71 Mittelwinternacht '71 (rating only) CLANDESTINE The Invalid (rating only) THE BOOK OF KNOTS Traineater (rating only) It's OK for me giving 5 stars to a personal favourites! But, damned 2 or 1 stars to other bands, just to underrate them is really frustrating! Please, admins, moderators do something.
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Snow Dog
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^ i really don't see how this is manipulation.
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octopus-4
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Somebody who gives high rating to the symphonic albums and gives one star to After Crying makes me doubt that he has really listened to them. (He has the right to rate them this way in any case).
I don't see a manipulation but I have never heard Astra.
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Guldbamsen
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Yeah I really don't see any manipulation going on here either. What I do see is that Alinux goes to fight for the band Profusion every chance he gets, but sometimes people just don't enjoy albums they hear. They have the right to dislike something. Plus the highlighted so-called manipulator has rated a fair amount of 2012 releases with 3 stars. If this was manipulation, we'd see 5 stars for Astra and the obligatory 1 star parade for everything else.
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lazland
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I agree. I think a touch of paranoia is creeping into proceedings here. Wait..I have to go............That's the CIA on the phone
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Perhaps not manipulation in this case but it shows a disregard for some classics.
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Logan
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^ What, you mean like giving Going for the One a two? I would have gone for the one. It's not that bad really, I just don't really get your point. That's happening to me a lot of late by the way.
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Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist
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Snow Dog
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^I agree with Logan. What disregard for some classics?
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Dean
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^ I don't see any disregard for the classics but It looks like manipulation for new-releases to favour one artist but with all such things it is difficult to prove even if it is obvious to see.
HOWEVER....
Two accounts: Tommy_Jimmy and bobby_2586 - ratings posted from the same IP address, both give 5-stars to all Astra albums, similar email address - ergo they are the same person and this is definite ratings manipulation.
Both accounts suspended.
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Snow Dog
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^Good work DI Cracknell!
Edited by Snow Dog - April 24 2012 at 06:05 |
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Sagichim
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lazland
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I am happy to withdraw my previous comments.
Nice work Inspector
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Snow Dog
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I don't. I can only judge on visible evidence. It is up to Admin to investigate further if they want and find further evidence.
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Dean
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^ If someone is going to give 1-stars to the two albums above the album they gave 5-stars to in the top albums of 2012 chart (ie Weather Systems and Synthetic vs The Black Chord) then I'm calling that manipulation whether they've really heard the other two albums or not - I call that "obvious" because it is. If I can prove it is manipulation then the ratings are toast, if I can't then it stays.
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Snow Dog
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I actually didn't look at the chart and how it affects things.My bad. I was just looking at the list posted. There is no evidence of year or anything untoward.
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