Battle of the Prog Bands R2D11: Can vs. Faust

faust makes sounds even worse to me.

Can 'cause they have good musicality in genereal and because Faust is way too abstracly weird for me...

I like both, but slightly prefer Can. Also: the word "band" is singular, so it takes a singular verb. The band makes. The members of the band make. Even though a band contains multiple members, the word is singular and that's all that grammar cares about. 

Snow Dog wrote: Nathaniel607 wrote: Logan wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Logan wrote: UndercoverBoy wrote: Nathaniel607 wrote: WalterDigsTunes wrote: I've never heard of Fuast either. Faust, on the other hand, makes pretty nifty collages of sound and noise. Alas, I prefer the hypnotic grooves of The Can. Well, sorry. Also, I think you'll find the correct grammar should be "Faust, on the other hand, make pretty nifty collages of sound and noise" Yeah. Two can play at that game. You're new here, aren't you?  Walter is the forum's resident douchebag; try to ignore anything he says. I'd use makes, as in the band makes. Definitely is make, as in "the band make" You see the word band is one unit so it's singular. Yes, so wouldn't that be "it makes" rather than "they make"? This is terrible if I'm getting this wrong since I'm a copy-editor; however, my grammar program helps with such things when working. But surely, since a band is just a group of people, it would be as in "they make". It's like, if you're talking about a company, for example Apple, they're a group of people, so it would be 'make'. But if you were talking about a machine which made moterbikes or something, it would be 'it makes'. Sounds good to me....I'll go along with that.

I definitely would say "the company makes money". I would do the same for other collective nouns. "Apple makes software" is not incorrect.  "Apple's employees make software" is correct.


Edited by Logan - August 18 2010 at 21:47

Logan wrote: Anyway, moving on from basic grammar, I'm surprised to see Faust so far behind. Perhaps, in this case, Can made a deal with the Devil.

Agreed.  Even though I voted for Can, I wish Faust would have fared better in this (like Henry Cow in the last match).  I guess a while a lot people here like Faust, they just like Can better.

UndercoverBoy wrote: thellama73 wrote: I like both, but slightly prefer Can. Also: the word "band" is singular, so it takes a singular verb. The band makes. The members of the band make. Even though a band contains multiple members, the word is singular and that's all that grammar cares about.  Can over Faust?  Interesting considering your review ratings (3 stars for the two Can albums that are considered their best, and 5 stars for two Faust albums.)  Did your opinion change, or do you just prefer other Can albums that you didn't review?

I am not a fan of Tago Mago, and I love Faust's debut. I love Ege Bamyasi and have been a bit disappointed with the other Faust records I have heard.. I like Future Days a lot (and have probably warmed to it a bit since that review) but I still don't know whether I'd give it four stars based on the reviews guidelines. I also think the members of Can are superior musicians and like what I've heard of their playing on other artists albums. It was a tough call, but lately I've been in more of a Can mood than a Faust mood.

EDIT: I just looked through my reviews and I'm amazed I gave Faust IV five stars. My opinion on that has definitely changed since I wrote it. I'll have to revise it soon.


Edited by thellama73 - August 18 2010 at 23:04

Krautrock? No vote

If it's not pre-89 heroes it's correcting every slight mistake.
Gotta love it!


Can btw

WalterDigsTunes wrote: JJLehto wrote: If it's not pre-89 heroes it's correcting every slight mistake. Gotta love it! Post-89 music is a mistake, so naturally, I have to do something to erase that error.

Music peaked in 1933, silly hippy

WalterDigsTunes wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: WalterDigsTunes wrote: JJLehto wrote: If it's not pre-89 heroes it's correcting every slight mistake. Gotta love it! Post-89 music is a mistake, so naturally, I have to do something to erase that error. Music peaked in 1933, silly hippy Look at your music stats; you're a hypocrite. Look at mine: Nothing after 89! I talk the talk because I walk the walk.

'tis true, I'm guilty of sinning.  I blame the fact that the LP did not yet exist.  I must compensate by listening to derivative dretch


Edited by Triceratopsoil - August 19 2010 at 00:33