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LIVE AND LET LIVE - THE DEFINITIVE EDITION

Twelfth Night

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4.82 | 30 ratings | 3 reviews | 63% 5 stars

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Songs / Tracks Listing

CD 1
1. The Ceiling Speaks (8:17)
2. Human Being (7:54)
3. The End Of The Endless Majority (3:18)
4. We Are Sane (12:01)
5. Deep In The Heartland (4:28)
6. Fact And Fiction (5:26)
7. The Poet Sniffs A Flower (4:09)
8. The Collector (19:42)

Total time 64:15


CD 2
9. Afghan Red (10:59)
10. Sequences (17:16)
11. Creepshow (12:27)
12. Art And Illusion (4:03)
13. East Of Eden (5:21)
14. Aspidentropy (9:51)
15. Love Song (8:37)

Total time 68:34

Line-up / Musicians

- Andy Revell / guitars
- Brian Devoil / drums
- Geoff Mann / vocals
- Clive Mitten / bass, guitar, keys
- Rick Battersby / keys

Releases information

Recorded in 1983 at the Marquee, London

F2 Music reissue with additional tracks, remastered, completely reset running order etc

2CD (2012)

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4.82
(30 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(63%)
63%
Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(27%)
27%
Good, but non-essential (10%)
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Collectors/fans only (0%)
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Review by kev rowland
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5 stars At the end of the Seventies a band formed at Reading University, initially as an instrumental group and then with a female singer. Electra didn't last too long and after reverting to an instrumental outfit the band then recruited long-time friend Geoff Mann as singer and so the die was cast. All these years later I still can't understand why Geoff, Andy Revell (guitar), Clive Mitten (bass/guitar/keys), Rick Battersby (keys) and Brian Devoil didn't make the breakthrough they so richly deserved. In 'Fact and Fiction' they released one of the finest progressive rock albums of all times, but never managed to pass through the door recently opened by Marillion. By the middle of 1983 Geoff was starting to question his role in the band, and whether he should follow a different calling. Some of his lyrics had been Christian in nature, but few outside the band would have know just how important he felt his religion was to him. And so, he decided that he had to leave the band (and eventually became a C of E minister before passing away way too young) but in a totally amicable manner.

Everyone agreed that they needed to record a live set, but also knew that they could only afford to record enough music for a single vinyl album, so 45 minutes. Certain epics would have to be included, so small instrumentals had to be played to get the timings correct. On 4th and 5th November 1983 they played their last two gigs with Geoff at the Marquee (massively sold out) and that was that. Originally it was to be released on their own private label, which would have had the catalogue number TN007 so hence the title, but during mixing (which took place the week after the gig ' but no overdubs), they were approached by MFN who then licensed it.

Although the band had paid only for certain songs to be recorded, the guys running the desk were so into what they were hearing that after the second gig they presented the band with a two track recording of all of the encores, and some of these were used when Cyclops reissued the album in 1996, but still it wasn't a complete record of what transpired.

Now in 2012, F2 Music have made available a double CD which uses all available sources to present what fans would have heard if they were there that night. This includes recordings from the gigs, soundchecks, VHS film and a version of 'The Collector' that was recorded a month earlier. The whole lot was given to Karl Groom to work on the levels and place everything into the correct running order. So, although you may feel that you have heard this album before I can guarantee it won't have been like this.

If I had to choose a set list from this era of the band it would be pretty close to this. All of the epics are here, and even now hearing the whistle on 'Sequences' sends a chill down my back as the band go over the top into no-man's land. It is strange to think that this already existed as an instrumental long before Geoff was involved as to me this is something he really owned. 'The Collector' is one of the most visual of all of their songs, and to hear it in this environment is just brilliant. It was never recorded in a studio when Geoff was in the band, but thankfully that was rectified when the compilation 'Collector's Item' was worked on in 1991. How about 'Human Being' with the lines 'If everytime we tell a lie a little fairy dies, they must be building death camps in the garden' or the way that the crowd know all the words to very song, even to the introduction to 'Fact and Fiction' or the way that 'Love Song' is the fitting end. The final song Geoff would sing while a member of the band.

Of course Twelfth Night didn't end there, Andy Sears was recruited and more great music ensued before they called it a day. But the band are now active again and are gigging, albeit with a slightly revised line-up, have released some great archive albums, and have worked with Dave Robinson of F2 on some brilliant reissues, of which this is the finest. As well as the great music there is an extended booklet with details of what happened, all of the lyrics, wonderful photos etc. If ever anything was an essential purchase this is it, and if I could give this six stars instead of a maximum five I would. www.twelfthnight.info

Disc 1 1. The Ceiling Speaks recorded 4 November 1983, first released on the original Live and Let Live vinyl album in 1984 2. Human Being recorded 4 November 1983, previously unreleased 3. The End of the Endless Majority recorded 5 November 1983, remixed from the original 16- track tapes, this remix version previously unreleased 4. We Are Sane recorded 4 November 1983, first released on the original Live and Let Live vinyl album in 1984 5. Deep in the Heartland recorded 5 November 1983 (soundcheck), previously unreleased 6. Fact and Fiction recorded 5 November 1983, first released on the original Live and Let Live vinyl album in 1984 7. The Poet Sniffs a Flower recorded 4 November 1983, first released on the original Live and Let Live vinyl album in 1984 8. The Collector recorded 27 October 1983, previously unreleased

Disc 2 1. Afghan Red recorded 4 November 1983, previously unreleased 2. Sequences recorded 5 November 1983, first released on the original Live and Let Live vinyl album in 1984 3. Creepshow recorded 5 November 1983, first released on the CD reissue of Live and Let Live in 1996, remastered from the original 2-track tapes 4. Art and Illusion recorded 5 November 1983, first released on Geoff Mann's Recorded Delivery CD in 2003, remastered from the original 2-track tapes 5. East of Eden recorded 5 November 1983, first released on the CD reissue of Live and Let Live in 1996, remastered from the original 2-track tapes 6. Aspidentropy recorded 5 November 1983, first released on Geoff Mann's Recorded Delivery CD in 2003, remastered from the original 2-track tapes 7. Love Song recorded 5 November 1983, first released on the CD reissue of Live and Let Live in 1996, remastered from the original 2-track tapes

Review by Warthur
PROG REVIEWER
5 stars The best release of Twelfth Night's Geoff Mann era is without a doubt Live and Let Live, documenting the two farewell shows for Geoff at the Marquee. With a track list drawing on their best material, it's an entertaining enough listen, though Mann's vocal approach can take a bit of getting used to.

Geoff feels the need to tell us that war is bad and love is good, as though these were sentiments which would be novel and new to us, and some may find the techniques he uses to offer us these facts is overly didactic and heavy-handed. Furthermore, there's a fine line between Gabriel-like theatricality and embarrassingly corny whimsy, and which side of the line Mann occupies will vary for listeners. crosses it too often for my liking.

Still, this is a matter of personal tastes and fans of early neo-prog would probably find a lot to like here. The album has been released in various configurations; by far the best is the 2012 Definitive Edition, which fills out the entire setlist of the farewell shows, almost entirely with recordings from the two nights in question. (The only exception is a rendition of The Collector from a week prior - evidently the tapes on the night simply failed to adequately capture the relevant performances.) The sound quality on some of the added tracks is a bit shaky - but eh, if you just want the original album tracks that's what playlists are for, and none of the sound issues are so severe as to be fatal. Moreover, in one delicious little set you get pretty much the cream of what Geoff Mann-era Twelfth Night had to offer.

Latest members reviews

5 stars Maybe I've too easily bought into a notion that isn't actually true, but It seems there may be something of a cult of Geoff Mann out there - and if so, I can readily see why. I'm not someone who's huge on vocals or lyrics. Bad vocals or lyrics can break a song for me, but mediocre ones certai ... (read more)

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