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TOUCH WOOD

Mangrove

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2.63 | 16 ratings | 4 reviews | 0% 5 stars

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Studio Album, released in 2004

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Fatal sign (9:54)
2. Vicious circle (5:29)
3. Cold world (6:36)
4. Penelope (7:08)
5. I close the book (5:51)
6. Help me (5:29)
7. Wizard of tunes (8:52)
8. Back again (5:39)
9. City of darkness (8:43)

Total Time: 63:41

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Line-up / Musicians

- Roland van der Horst / guitar and vocals
- Joost Hagemeijer / drums and keyboards
- Pieter Drost / bass
- Chris Jonker / keyboards

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2.63
(16 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(0%)
0%
Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(44%)
44%
Good, but non-essential (38%)
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Collectors/fans only (6%)
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Review by progrules
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3 stars I knew the successor of this album way longer than the debut. I don't really like doing things the reverse way but alas, the damage is done. Doesn't really matter, the advantage is that I hardly could go wrong with this first release because I already knew by Facing the Sunset that Mangrove is an excellent Dutch progband.

That leaves us the comparison with the successor and that's an obvious thing for me. Even though this is a very fine debut it comes nowhere near their second studio album. It's nice in the sense that the potential really shines through already here and then I especially mean their by far strongest asset: the keyboards. And I don't even mean the execution (which is superb by the way) but mainly the terrific little solos these guys write for that instrument. They create a wonderful atmosphere with those instrumental passages and it's the main reason I really love this band.

Highlights are the opning Fatal Signs, Wizard of Tunes (must be autobiographical !) and the closing song City of Darkness. On these three the aspect I described is best present. The other songs prove that they were not fully mature yet because they let their Achilles Heel (vocals) dominate too much on those. And that's immediately the reason I will not give this debut the high score of 4 stars just yet. The successor did get them from me but that was completely justified. If I would also do that with this debut I would simply be overrating so it will be three stars. Still, if you like Facing the Sunset and don't know this one yet, it's recommended.

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Posted Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Review by ZowieZiggy
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1 stars Early to middle "Genesis" for the music and general trash for the vocals. These are the basic ingredients you can find while listening to the long "Touch Wood".

The whole of the feeling being remarkably summarized during the opening and "epic" song. The vocal disenchantment is truly unbearable and a real pity. How is it possible? Lots of German bands were having such a problem, but usually Dutch bands could overcome this handicap. But not "Mangrove" apparently.

An average singer would have been more than welcome and this album would definitely have scored higher. But, as such it is difficult to rate it in the high spheres. One could have hoped a more instrumental work, but no: vocals are everywhere and are really painful. Now, when you listen to "Vicious Circle", there is nothing good nor creative to expect. Just a poor "Genesis" clone. Would you believe, with a debut album in 2004?

This pastiche album is quite painful to listen to from start to finish. And I'm not of the most purists from this great site. But still: this band hasn't an inch of personality.

I am quite perplexed with the music performed: I was quite keen on listening and reviewing the band when I saw that it was referenced within the symphonic style and that it has received quite high scores. But these were much too optimistic IMHHO. To listen to the weak "Penelope" put all things into perspective. Press next, really.

The band decided to release a long album (I wonder why) and it dramatically failed. It is frankly poles apart. The worse is probably being reached during "Help Me". These are the only words I can possibly think of while listening to this track. Awful.

And when I heard from the lyrics from "Wizard Of Tunes" the sentence "I don't believe in miracles" I was just voiceless. For sure, miracles didn't show up. Some good guitar though for a few seconds. But is this enough??? Of course there is also a rip off from "Watcher". Stop please! This is enough!

Actually, I really wonder why this band has been placed into the symphonic genre while they fully belong to the neo one. I'll dig more into this with their later releases.

Weak. Pale copy. Inexpressive. Three out of ten but downgraded to one star. The worse neo prog you can expect. is featured in this album.

And I needed more than four hundred words to tell you this!!! Unbelievable.

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3 stars I have seen Mangrove live twice. And, although the quality of the recording is quit good, they sound better live. The quality of the songs differs, all in all not bad. Best (and great) track in my opinion is City of darkness, with Wizard of tunes as number 2. Fine keyboard- playing by Chris Jon ... (read more)

Report this review (#47920) | Posted by | Thursday, September 22, 2005 | Review Permanlink

4 stars Great album! It takes at least five times of concentrated listening to the music and lyrics but then it hits you like a steamtrain! There are interesting mood changes in the music who remind me of bands like UK and King Crimson in the early days. A litlle point of concern is the singing of Rola ... (read more)

Report this review (#28621) | Posted by | Thursday, June 24, 2004 | Review Permanlink

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