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YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON STAGE ANYMORE, VOL. 4

Frank Zappa

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Live, released in 1991

Songs / Tracks Listing

Disc one
1. Little Rubber Girl (2:57)
2. Stick Together (2:04)
3. My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama (3:20)
4. Willie the Pimp (2:07)
5. Montana (5:47)
6. Brown Moses (2:38)
7. The Evil Prince (7:13)
8. Approximate (1:49)
9. Love of My Life (1:58)
10. Let's Move to Cleveland (7:11)
11. You Call That Music? (4:07)
12. Pound for a Brown [Solos 1978] (6:30)
13. The Black Page [1984] (5:15)
14. Take Me Out to the Ball Game (3:02)
15. Filthy Habits (5:40)
16. The Torture Never Stops [Original Version] (9:15)

Disc two:
17. Church Chat (2:00)
18. Stevie's Spanking (10:51)
19. Outside Now (6:10)
20. Disco Boy (3:00)
21. Teen-Age Wind (1:54)
22. Truck Driver Divorce (4:47)
23. Florentine Pogen (5:10)
24. Tiny Sick Tears (4:30)
25. Smell My Beard (4:30)
26. The Booger Man (2:47)
27. Carolina Hard Core Ecstasy (6:28)
28. Are You Upset? (1:29)
29. Little Girl of Mine (1:41)
30. The Closer You Are (2:05)
31. Johnny Darling (0:52)
32. No, No Cherry (1:26)
33. The Man from Utopia Meets Mary Lou (1:16)
34. Mary Lou (2:14)

Total Time: 134:03

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Line-up / Musicians

- Frank Zappa / guitar, vocals
- Steve Vai / guitar, vocals
- George Duke / keyboards, vocals
- Bruce Fowler / trombone
- Archie Shepp / sax (Tenor)
- Bobby Martin / keyboards, saxophone, vocals
- Don Preston / keyboards, electronics
- Ed Mann / percussion
- Chester Thompson / drums
- Chad Wackerman / drums
- Jimmy Carl Black / drums
- Lowell George / guitar
- Ike Willis / guitar, vocals
- Tom Fowler / bass
- Arthur Barrow / bass, keyboards
- Captain Beefheart / harmonica, vocals
- Terry Bozzio / drums
- Napoleon Murphy Brock / saxophone, vocals
- Paul Carman / sax (Alto)
- Vinnie Colaiuta / drums
- Roy Estrada / bass, vocals
- Walt Fowler / trumpet, vocals
- Bunk Gardner / trumpet, sax (Tenor)
- Ralph Humphrey / drums
- David Logerman / drums
- Tommy Mars / keyboards, vocals
- Kurt McGettrick / sax (Baritone)
- Patrick O'Hearn / bass
- Dave Samuels / guitar, vocals (background)
- Motorhead Sherwood / sax (Baritone)
- Scott Thunes / bass
- Art Tripp / drums
- Ian Underwood / clarinet
- Ruth Underwood / percussion
- Denny Walley / vocals, slide guitar
- Ray White / guitar, vocals
- Albert Wing / sax (Tenor)
- Allan Zavod / keyboards
- Peter Wolf / keyboards, moog synthesizer, mini moog

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Review by tarkus1980
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3 stars A rather hodge-podge collection, but the high points make this worthwhile. While it doesn't work as well as Volume 1 in terms of surveying Zappa's whole live career, it comes pretty close, and it never feels like just another 80's live album like Volume 3 sometimes did. There are some weird skits, some exercises in era-splicing, and some eye-opening surprises, and all of these good aspects make me overlook the less interesting moments.

One thing that this album also has in spades is a lot of extended instrumental workouts, and these don't always thrill me. "Let's Move to Cleveland-Solos (1984)" and "Pound for a Brown-Solos (1978)" just seem completely redundant to me, and I wasn't really clamoring for another version of "The Black Page," either. I do get some jollies out of the great guitar playing in "Stevie's Spanking" and "Truck Driver Divorce," though; I don't remember how similar the solos here are to the ones in the studio versions, but even if they're identical (which I highly doubt), the energy and power shown in them make them pretty breathtaking. There's also a nice rendition of "Filthy Habits" from 1988, and it's nowhere near as tedious as the original sometimes was.

The skits, as is usual for Zappa, are of mixed quality. "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" features Ike Willis and Walt Fowler doing a disturbingly good imitation of the announcers for an Atlanta Braves baseball game, and capturing all of the hopeless ennui that came with rooting for the Braves in the late 80's. "Church Chat" is a fairly dumb anti-Church rant, and while I do admit that I crack up more than a bit at the line, "There is no hell, there's only France," it's not one of Frank's better bits. "Tiny Sick Tears" is a hilarious parody of Jim Morrison's Oedipal ramblings during performances of "The End," and "Smell my Beard/The Booger Man" is a leftover from the Roxy era where the whole joke just seems to be that it mentions boogers.

The rest of the music is of mixed quality, but good on the whole. The highlights come from unexpected places, and they give the album the "revelatory" aspect that's really the key to making albums like this worth it. The first disc features two tracks from Thing Fish, and I love both of the performances here. I always basically liked "Brown Moses," so it's not shocking to me that I find enjoyment here, but I sure wasn't expecting such a great rendition of "The Evil Prince," which I'd almost forgotten even existed. The singing on this track is great, full of what actually sounds like something resembling real emotional power. Who knows, maybe all I needed to appreciate this fully was to have it broken out of its original horrid context.

My other favorite of the album comes from the Bongo Fury era: the original version of "The Torture Never Stops," with Captain Beefheart on vocals. Originally, the track was far bluesier than it later ended up (and it had almost none of the denseness in the sound that the studio version later would), and while I hated Beefheart's singing on BF as anybody, I really think he sounds perfect in this context. Plus, he gets in a lot of fantastic harmonica soloing, and the whole product just reinforces the notion that Zappa should have been involved in more blues performances in his life.

The first disc doesn't really have many other standouts, though people who like the song more than I do will be glad to have a performance of "Montana" that comes from both 1973 and 1984. Most notably, the disc has abbreviated versions of several tracks from Zappa's past, and none are really helped by the shortening. I like the version of "My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama," and the modified lyrics to "Willie the Pimp" amuse me (I can't help it, the line "Trying to buy some pussy with a third-party check" kills me every time), but I'd rather hear the originals. The second disc features nice versions of "Outside Now," "Disco Boy," "Florentine Pogen" and especially "Caroline Hard-core Ecstasy," as well as a version of "Teen-Age Wind" that's nowhere near as good as the original one. And finally, the album ends with a series of 50's/60's covers, some of which had appeared on previous albums ("The Closer You Are," "The Man from Utopia," "Mary Lou"), and some of which hadn't. They're fun and goofy and all, and they give an extra sense of diversity to the album, but they're not really necessary.

Overall, then, it's not spectacular, but it's another solid entry in the series. A Zappa fan who hasn't heard the best stuff from this album is a sad Zappa fan indeed. Don't get it before Vol 1 or Vol 5, but definitely get it.

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Review by Evolver
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3 stars Volume 4 of Frank Zappa's massive live collection seems to have quite a bit of filler. That doesn't make it not worth owning, however.

There seems to be a lot of throwaway song on this collection. Little Rubber Girl starts out the album in that vein. A doo-wop song, with Frank and Denny Walley appaently making up lyrics as they go along. Later on, there's Ike Willis doing a very funny parody of a baseball announcer on Take Me Out To The Ball Game. Church Chat starts the second disk with a Zappa rant. Tiny Sick Tears, a parody of 96 Tears mostly misses the mark. And the string of old rock & roll songs that closes the album are fun, but unnecessary.

But the good parts are excellent. there's a completely different version of My Guitar Wants To Kill Your Mama, an excellent Willie The Pimp that segues into Montana. Archie Shepp plays a hot sax solo in an excerpt from Let's Move To Cleveland. I believe the version of Filthy Habits on this album is the best Frank released, and the original version of The Torture Never Stops, sung by Don Van Vliet is worth the price alone. The only true gem on the second disk is the version of Truck Driver Divorce that far outshines the original.

Still, a three star Frank Zappa album is better than most other band's best.

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