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4.04 | 61 ratings | 6 reviews | 48% 5 stars

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Studio Album, released in 1989

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. At my Home (7:57)
2. Autumn(9:06)
3. Butterking (7:17)
4. Reflections on the Future (15:48)
5. The way that I feel today (11:11)
6. Spring (13:02)
7. I wanna stay (3:59)
8. Time can't take It Away (4:40)

Total Time 73:00

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Line-up / Musicians

- Geff Harrison (England) / lead vocals & lyrics
- Gagey Mrozeck / guitars
- Veit Marvos / keyboards
- Dieter Bauer / bass
- Steve Robinson / keyboards
- Konstatin Bommarius / drums

Guests:
- Wolfgang Sch?nbrot / flute
- Curt Cress / drums

Releases information

CD Second Battle-SB 025-Ger-1989

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2066 & THEN Reflections ratings distribution


4.04
(61 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(48%)
48%
Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(26%)
26%
Good, but non-essential (18%)
18%
Collectors/fans only (7%)
7%
Poor. Only for completionists (2%)
2%

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Review by Proghead
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5 stars Apparently when Second Battle in Germany wanted to reissue "Reflections on the Future", a rather obscure German prog rock album released in 1972 on United Artists, the master tapes were apparently lost (especially since United Artists, as a record label ceased to exist long ago). So this CD apparently contains 1971 alternate versions of the entire "Reflections On the Future", as well as bonus material that originally surfaced on "Reflections on the Past". So I don't think I'm getting the original "Reflections on the Future" on this CD reissue, but it don't seem to matter. Because this is some truly killer heavy prog rock with killer Hammond organ. This stuff really grows on you.

The band at least had sense to use an English-born vocalist (in this case, Geff Harrison, later of KIN PING ME). His vocals did throw me off as he sounds at times like BS&T's David Clayton-Thomas, and at other times like Rod Stewart. Not exactly the style of voices I'm accustomed to in prog rock, so I don't alway think the vocal passages were the best thing of the album, but there are exceptions, especially "Autumn". "Butterking" oddly reminds me of GENESIS (mainly because of the GABRIEL imitations here - did these guys pick up a copy of "Trespass", or was it just coincidence?), but with more keyboard pyrotechnics. "Reflections of the Future" is a prime example of the good and bad of this album, the vocal sections just aren't up to par, but when the instrumental passages come in, they just kick butt (plus the band really goes off the deep end with some disturbing electronic experiments on the VCS-3 synthesizer and Mellotron). "The Way I Feel Today", like "Autumn", is another excellent cut where even the vocal sections are great. Since the vocalist was sounding like David Clayton-Thomas here, I was expecting to hear some BS&T type of horns anytime (ditto for the opening cut, "At My Home"), but not at all! The three additional cuts are "Spring", "I Wanna Stay" and "Time Can't Take it Away". "Spring" is an all-instrumental organ-driven piece that never made it on "Reflections on the Future", while "I Wanna Stay" tends to be a more straighforward rocker. "Time Can't Take It Away" is rather mediocre, complete with clichéd female backup vocals. Anyway, incredible music, especially if you like such acts as ELP, The NICE, JETHRO TULL, and perhaps even GENESIS.

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Posted Friday, May 07, 2004

Review by Mellotron Storm
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4 stars I had mentioned to my spaced-out, Krautrocking Brother-In-Law a couple of months ago how badly I wanted to have TWENTY SIXTY SIX AND THEN's debut album. Well would you believe he shows up the day after my birthday with this cd in his hand. To be honest it's far from a legit recording but it's the thought that counts. It was the best birthday gift I received this year. We proceeded to have a few beers while listening to this recording then OUT OF FOCUS' live album. It was a good evening. So my copy is 40 minutes long containing the first four tracks that were on the original album minus the short 3 1/2 minute closer. Now the tracks on this particular release are earlier versions of the debut because the master tapes have long been lost. Some who have heard both prefer these longer earlier versions anyway. There is some mellotron and flute but this is mostly organ and guitar led with a fantastic rhythm section. Vocals are in English.

"At My Home" has a good beat as the organ plays over top. Vocals join in. This is catchy. Flute before 2 1/2 minutes followed by an instrumental break I really like that is led by the organ. A nice and heavy rhythm section here as well. Vocals are back before 6 minutes. "Autumn" builds slowly before it kicks in with a killer rhythm section. Vocals after 1 1/2 minutes. This is excellent. I like the lyrics too. The guitar is smoking 3 1/2 minutes in then the tempo picks up a minute later. It settles again with almost spoken vocals. It's melancholic with mellotron to the end. "Butterking" makes me laugh, especially where he sings "The butterking !" then the music goes da da da ! Like in an old TV show. This song opens with nature sounds then you can hear someone walking then he says "Butterfly" and in comes the music, and it kicks in heavily. Piano after 2 minutes as the tempo picks up. It settles with acoustic guitar, drums then vocals. Flute arrives then it picks up again.

"Reflections On The Future" was the original title track and almost a side long one at that. This is my favourite track. A nice heavy intro with lots of bottom end as the guitar plays over top. It settles a minute in with vocals. A heavy rhythm arrives before 5 minutes as the guitar lights it up in a big way. Killer ! It settles back before 7 minutes as the vocals return. Check out the organ and bass combo before 10 minutes. It turns experimental and spacey after 11 minutes until 14 1/2 minutes in. Klaus Schulze would be proud. Passionate guitar and vocals to end it.

By the way you too can hear these songs on YouTube. There's no video with them just the audio, but please check them out. To my Brother-In-Law who's always in a psychedlic haze, thankyou.

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Posted Thursday, July 22, 2010

Review by Bonnek
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog Metal Team
3 stars Here's a band that was a Kraut-supergroup without knowing it. After the debut the band would split and each of the members would move on to reasonably well-known bands such as Beggar's Opera, Aera, Karthago, Abacus, Emergency and Kin Ping Meh.

The opening track sticks to heavy rock with a psychedelic edge, it's something they pull off quite effectively but haling from 1972, it feels a bit old, almost like 1968 Deep Purple. You got to love the track though. Also Autumn is a pleasant acid rock track with a heavy blues basis. At times the band can be quite playful and the instrumental section in the middle isn't far off the symphonic style of Grobschnitt.

Butterking goes a step further down the symphonic line, with a very scenic structure combining gentle acoustic parts with melodious vocals, early VDGG type majestic organs, bits from classical music and more. The epic title track doesn't offer much new apart from the clumsy synth fiddling near the end.

Admitted, apart from Deep Purple and Uriah Heep, I'm not the biggest fan of this type of stuffy old heavy rock. This isn't a bad album and maybe this worked at its time, but even then I can't see how this compares to Heep or Purple in terms of quality.

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Posted Friday, January 14, 2011

Review by Sagichim
COLLABORATOR Eclectic Prog Team
3 stars Now that's what i call heavy music!!

2066 & then released their sole album in 1972, but again in 1989 it was released with some bonus material, that i guess was meant for a second album. The band definitely reminds you of 'uriah heep' and some heavy 'deep purple', with their organ guitar driven rock. The music is always heavy with a slight psychedelic overtones, also contain some great breaks and some good shifts between styles. There's a good rhythm section behind the band, i especially like the drummer, he fills the songs very effectively and flows very good with the music, creating an intricate rhythm. The album opens with 'at my home' which is a fine track with good vocals and some flute is added to the mix, but still is quite straight forward, including a long organ solo, nice but nothing more, at this point i thought "if the album is gonna be like this, i won't stick with it very long". But 2066 have much more than this, the rest is much more progressive, 'autumn' is sensational starting out with a trippy build up then goes heavy metal only it's in the 70's, after the vocals go, guitar goes on fiery solo with some very good drumming on top, one of my favourite parts on the album, it then evolves to a calm quiet part reminicent of 'in the court...' superb stuff. Butterking is my favourite, mixing their heavy riffing with again 'in the court...' kind of acoustic guitar and good vocals, what a great atmosphere. The main theme fuses some heavy rock with psychedelic and some dynamite solos, being a 15 minute long song i prefer the shorter ones better being more progressive.

The second half of the cd, although is not bad and contain some good parts, really brings the whole album down. 'the way that i feel today' and 'spring' both are long and are not so progressive, even the solos doesn't do it for me. the shorter tracks are even worse, and contain nothing for prog fans. So if you like your prog to be very heavy with distorted guitars, good organs and good vocals, this could be a nice addition, for me it's inconsistant, but i like to hear it maybe once a year.

Judging this album only by the first half, which is the original 1972 album but perhaps not the same versions, i would rate it 4 stars, but judging it as a whole it's really 3 stars.

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5 stars When I first heard this CD, I was really amazed. Forget all those words about ELP or Genesis, this album is pure kraut rock at its best. The music varies from heavy rock to prog, jazz and psychedelic. At my home is superb opening with great strong vocal. My favourite songs are (together wit ... (read more)

Report this review (#80592) | Posted by Hejkal | Wednesday, June 07, 2006 | Review Permanlink

5 stars One of the best hard-prog records ever made ! From the very first time I hear it I was speechless, amazing ! It is very German, hard, dense, complex, some times reminds me of early Collosseum, but deeper and more powerful . This is a must-have for any goog prog collection . ... (read more)

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