SOLEIL 12

Forgas Band Phenomena

 

Jazz Rock/Fusion


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3.72 | 5 ratings | 20% 5 stars

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Live, released in 2005

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Soleil 12 (9:22)
2. Coup De Théâtre (34:47)
3. Éclipse (8:16)
4. Pievre à la Pluie (18:18)

Total Time: 70:43

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Line-up / Musicians

- Patrick Forgas / drums
- Sylvain Ducloux / guitar
- Igor Brover / keyboards
- Kengo Mochizuki / bass
- Frédéric Norel / violin
- Stanislas De Nussac / Tenor & Soprano saxophones
- Denis Guivarch / Alto saxophone
- Sylvain Gontard / trumpet, flugelhorn

Releases information

CD Cuneiform Records RUNE 218 (2005)

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3.72
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Review by fuxi
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3 stars Bandleader Patrick Forgas has been described as 'the French answer to the Canterbury scene', and this album of his is proudly marketed as: 'for fans of Soft Machine, Pierre Moerlen's Gong, Bruford, National Health, Passport, Frank Zappa', but such a label is in fact misleading.

True, the music on SOLEIL 12 often resembles THIRD (and BUNDLES) era Soft Machine, and it will also remind you of Pierre Moerlen's Gong at their gentlest (especially of the Gong albums that came after EXPRESSO II). Forgas reveals a familiar preference for unhurried, repetitive, riff-driven compositions. His drumming style is close to Pierre Moerlen's, and also to John Marshall's. The sound of three brass players (trumpet and saxes) playing the main themes in unison is unmistakably Soft-Machine like. Also, lead guitarist Sylvain Ducloux tends to sound like a typical Allan Holdsworth-disciple.

But if SOLEIL 12 resembles (some) Canterbury music, it has to be Canterbury music with a straight face. Do you remember when Robert Wyatt left the Soft Machine, and Daevid Allen left Gong, they took most of those bands' humour with them? Forgas Band Phenomena generally sound bright and cheerful, but I see no trace of typical Canterbury-style humour (or avant-garde leanings) in their work. (No trace of fuzz-organs either!) For this reason, and because Forgas' tunes are so simple and repetitive (the longest composition takes nearly 35 minutes), it makes no sense to compare this album with the extraordinary National Health or even with Zappa, unless you mean such relatively subdued Zappa albums as WAKA/JAWAKA.

I find it hard to dislike this music, but in my opinion other Europeans have come up with more convincing efforts in the genre of 'Small Big Band jazz-rock', most notably Michael Gibbs, Pierre Dorge and the United Jazz and Rock Orchestra, all of whom benefit from more outspoken soloists and more tuneful compositions. (At the same time, the greatest masterpiece in the genre is probably Zappa's GRAND WAZOO.) However, I don't want to finish this review without saying a few words in praise of violinist Frederic Norel, whose contributions are truly outstanding. Whenever Norel started playing, I pricked up my ears. If you're curious about the (non-electric) violin in a jazz or fusion context, do give this album a try.

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5 stars The third release from France's Forgas Band Phenomena, titled Soleil 12, is four songs of rich, captivating, and exploratory Canterbury styled fusion. Led by drummer Patrick Forgas (who recorded projects in the 70's & 80's with members of Magma and Zao), this big band ensemble of eight players ... (read more)

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