VINEGAR
Krautrock • Germany
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VINEGAR is a psychedelic rock band from Germany formed by Wolfgang Grahn, Bernhard Liesegang and Jochen Biemann. The three men attended school together, but it wasn't until they were in the university that the idea of forming a band had becomed more concrete. After some time playing together, they added a new member, Dagmar Dormagen (who was a very close friend of Wolfgang and lived just around the corner from his house) to sing in the band. By the end of 1969 Rolf Zwirner and Ralf Modrow joined the group and the line-up was established. They named their band VINEGAR because they wanted to make music that was "hard to digest" as opposed to the "sweet stuff" others played. The band split after the recording of their first album because of musical differences.
VINEGAR made one recording only in 1971. Their sound ranges from rocking guitar riffs to soft violin passages and haunting organ passages as well. There are songs that also consist of jams, but the overall sound is more structured. In some parts of their songs they can be compared to AMON DÜÜL II or PINK FLOYD.
Recommended for fans of Krautrock, psychedelic/ space rock fans who are looking for a little bit more hard rock in their music.
Why this band must be listed in www.progarchives.com:
They are one of the bands that came out of the Kraurock movement like CAN, FAUST, AMON DÜÜL II and many others.
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Vinegar Krautrock
Review by
ProgShine
Collaborator Errors & Omissions Team

Vinegar and their only album is just a lame excuse for a band play Progressive Rock in the worst way possible. Not a single moment on the album is remembered after the 40 minutes of audition, like the majority of the so called Krautrock bands and albums.
Absurdly amateurish and only for silly collectors that pay tons of money for 'rare' records. If that's not your case, run away.
Vinegar Krautrock
Review by
Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer

"Missi Solis" has this dark sounding guitar intro then it settles as drums come in followed by reserved vocals.This sounds so good. The organ floats in the background. Violin 3 1/2 minutes in as the vocals stop.The guitar after 5 minutes really reminds me of OPETH's "Damnation" album. Just fantastic ! The melancholia and atmosphere is great. The organ is back around 7 1/2 minutes then the tempo picks up a minute later with raw sounding guitar out in front.
"Sawmill-Tiel I" is catchy and late 60's sounding early on with vocals, guitar, organ and drums standing out. I like the vocals here a lot. A calm 1 1/2 minutes in as the melody stops and it turns psychedelic and experimental. The tempo picks up after 4 1/2 minutes with drums and guitar leading. "Sawmill-Tiel II" is AMON DUUL II-like with pounding drums along with organ. The violin starts to rip it up then the guitar takes over 2 1/2 minutes in. It settles a minute later. "Der Kaiser Auf Der Erbse" opens with violin. Guitar, drums and organ kick in before 2 minutes. Nice. Check out the bizarre vocals before 2 1/2 minutes (haha). The violin is back before 4 minutes. Love the sound when the vocals take over for the violin. It's the guitars' turn. Violin is back after 6 minutes sounding like someone's scratching the blackboard. "Fleisch" opens with floating organ as bass and drums follow. Guitar too. Organ only then these female vocal melodies with guitar join in. The guitar 5 minutes in starts to solo as the vocals stop. Great track !
4.5 stars for this Krautrock classic.
Vinegar Krautrock
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Vinegar Krautrock
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philippe
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Vinegar Krautrock
Review by
memowakeman
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

One of the countries that i consider pioneers of prog music is Germany, despite i am not a real lover of krautrock, i admit that several 70`s bands that came out from Germany were/are motif of inspirations between the bands themselves, they have developed an own style and that is why Germany is so big in this wide world of progressive rock.
Out of the ashes of that 70`s era, actually very early 70`s a band called Vinegar decided to make their own effort inspired mainly by the late 60`s psychedelic era and believing that they could contribute to the constant development of german rock, prog rock i mean, released a self-titled album and again, as several bands, disbanished after their first and only record This happened with several bands and the most of them remain being very obscure nowadays, Vinegar is not the exception, this album is very unknown and strange to get, even it is difficult to find some information about this band and relateds.
The music is very psychedelic as i said above, nonetheless sometimes i feel that they tried to experiment more that they should have to, the first song is not that powerful opener song that i expect in every album, actually it is the longest one of this album, but that doesnt mean that is the best, psychedelic guitar,some good riffs but it would have been better if the song lasted 7 minutes and not 12, sometimes repetitiveness is excelent, this time is pointless.
The next two songs could be considered as a one piece divided in two, "Sawmill" begins rockier than the first song and actually it sounds better, here we can find again some kind of experimentation but this time with the addition of both the flute and violin which sounds good but not superb, nice try and nice song.
The fourth song , is probably the one that fits perfectly in that German early 70`s psychedelic style, the organ ,drums and guitar will give you an idea, the horrible thing here are the vocals, i dont understand if they tried to be funny, but i dont like them at all, they sound ridicolous and terrible. "Fleisch" is the last song, and probably the one that i like the most, here the organ takes everything very calm and soft, sometimes sounds a bit dark, and then the songs turn heavier with some good guitar riffs.
I dont like to give so low ratings to unknown bands, but this time i have two things, in one hand the fact that i am not the most devoted follower of Krautrock (though i do love some kraut albums), and in the other hand being a prog lover as a genre, i find this album with no direction, i mean it doesnt show anything new, nor inspire me to listen to it frequently, so this time i will give to it only 2 stars, recommendable, yes, but only for fans of German kraut/psych music.
Vinegar Krautrock
Review by
chamberry
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

The name Vinegar came from the members who wanted to make music hard to digest like vinegar itself and although they succeeded at making it, they don't sound as weird or strange as other German bands form the era. The album is pretty typical 70's psych rock with some little krautrock influences (they are after all a German band) and also a bit of humor thrown in for good measure like in the song "Der Kaiser Auf Der Erbse" which sound like zombies trying to sing . The vocals are sung in English. They have a bit of an jam/experimental sound like in the middle of "Samwill Teil" which has a nice drum solo in the second part of the song and an experimental dabbling in the first part of the song. The guitar player adds a heavy sound to the songs and does some nice solos; although the violin isn't very present in the album it adds a good touch to the songs. The album suffers a big blow in the first song, "Missi Solis". It isn't really interesting and drags too much for it's own good taking 12 minutes of space of an 37 minute album so at the end you're left with 25 minutes of decent material. At the end what could've been a decent 3 star album, thanks to "Missi Solis" the album is drawn back to a 2.5 or even a 2 star album.
If you can ignore the first song and curiosity is biting you in the arse then go ahead and check this album out, there are four great songs to listen to, but for those who can't get over it (like me) then don't bother.