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Ainur is a new italian band made of 18 members inspired by Tolkien, whose music portraits Tolkien's writings with his fantastic world of tales and fantasy. Ainur get their inspiration (and their name) from "The Silmarillon", Tolkien's whole life work. The idea of Ainur is to transpose into music the entire corpus of tales of "The Silmarillion": given the extent of the work, both in length and content, they started to put in music sagas or specific tales across different periods of the Three Tolkenian Ages and Ancient Times.
From lovely Italy to the the vast plans and highest peaks of the Middle Earth. The band offers an intriguing musical journey based on pure and strong symphonic prog tinged here and there with delicate celtic and classical influences. The general atmosphere could be easily recognized as the perfect soundtrack for an epic fantasy movie. The musicians reveal a wide range of styles and influences: you'll find here medieval and languid interludes, celtic and quasi-pop madrigals, strong and hard guitars blended with orchestra and vintage keyboards (moog above all). Vocal richness is also one of their trade markes: recitative parts, whispers, operatic singers (bass and soprano).
Some comparisons could be found in MANDALABAND project by David Rohl (Eye of Wendor, in particular - 1978): a fantasy-like concept album recorded with the contribution of many artists. A similar "commercial" vein, the same serious prog tendency and evocative atmosphere.



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3.27 | 21 ratings
From Ancient Times
2007
3.77 | 22 ratings
Children of Hurin
2008
4.09 | 14 ratings
Lay of Leithian
2009

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4.50 | 2 ratings
Children of Hurin - Deluxe Edition
2007
0.00 | 0 ratings
Progressive Rock Night - Ainur-Euthymia-Vurtula live in Turin
2012

AINUR Boxset & Compilations (CD, LP, MC, SACD, DVD-A, Digital Media Download)

4.67 | 3 ratings
The Lost Tales
2013

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 Children of Hurin by AINUR album cover Studio Album, 2008
3.77 | 22 ratings

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Children of Hurin
Ainur Rock Progressivo Italiano

Review by toroddfuglesteg

3 stars Ainur is an 18 piece big orchestra from Italy which somehow is listed as Rock Progressivo Italiano. I am not so sure about that based on this album and this album alone.

Ainur is one of the countless bands who has done something on Tolkien. So much that we can almost set up an own Tolkien genre. But wait a minute; we already have. It is called symphonic prog. OK, most Tolkien bands is somewhere between symphonic prog and progressive metal. More like what some Dutch bands is doing. Not to mention Nightwish.

Ainur has both legs in this landscape between symph and prog metal. Mostly in symph prog, it has to be said. Their sound is crystal clear without any hints of Rock Progressivo Italiano whatsoever. The musicians is doing a great job throughout. The vocals is both clear and operatic male and female vocals. The instruments is basically more of the classical orchestra setup with woodwinds and violins in addition to some electric guitars, tangents, bass and drums.

The problem with this album is that it is overly ambitious and it is doomed to fall flat on it's face if it does not have some really great pieces of music. Unfortunate, Children Of Hurin is sorely lacking one or two really great songs. The music here is good, but not great. I have to admit I tend to lose interest halfway through this album. But Children of Hurin is a good effort from the band which reached for the stars but did not quite make it.

A bland character for a bland album.

3 stars

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 Lay of Leithian by AINUR album cover Studio Album, 2009
4.09 | 14 ratings

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Lay of Leithian
Ainur Rock Progressivo Italiano

Review by Marty McFly
Special Collaborator Errors and Omissions Team

4 stars Beautiful, symphonic in extremis, extremely long, but somehow fails to intrigue me as much as Hurin's Children. If you want to know more, please read my two previous reviews, because I don't like to repeat myself, something that I would do otherwise in this review.

Big epic piece, I was looking forward this album a lot. Ainur did very well in past and the more you are listening to their albums, the more of a story you feel. These re-tellings of written words are always amazing, given that genre so fitting for these ancient magical fantasy stories, RPI. There are more "rough" parts, there are milder ones, exactly as the story goes up and down according to twist of fate (or more like narrator).

This album is of course poetical, epic, for sure concept and so on, but how it is about music itself actually ? There are parts where you can certainly feel Opera, except forementioned Symphonic elements, you can also experience neat guitar solos, mood parts (especially Before The Throne is full of them).

4(+), not bad album, but I fear it's too long to appreciate fully for now. I don't hope, I certainly know for sure that I will eventually like this album more in future. But take this review as words from someone who listened to this few times and is only in the beginning of the journey.

There are weaker parts, there are very good ones too, in average it doesn't make average, but high quality album. As we're used to from Ainur.

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 From Ancient Times by AINUR album cover Studio Album, 2007
3.27 | 21 ratings

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Ainur Rock Progressivo Italiano

Review by apps79
Special Collaborator Neo Prog Team

3 stars A little different than your average Italian prog band,AINUR are a project formed in 2004 in Venaria Reale,Piemonte by three young musicians:Luca Catalano on guitars,Marco Catalano on drums and Gianluca Castelli on various keyboards.As the band claims,the need of transposing into music J.R.R. Tolkien's ''Silmarillion'' pushed the members to establish a project,consisting for their first album ''From ancient times'' of 18 members in total.This effort was finally released in 2006 by Electromantic Music.

Forget about the Classic Italian Prog sound here.''From ancient times'' has a dominant fairytale atmosphere throughout the album,not to mention that all lyrics are sung in English. Unfortunately the music often gets lost in the need of story-telling with lots of spoken/sung parts back-rounded by atmospheric keys and medieval flutes.Female vocals are really great,producing a result close to RENAISSANCE's musicianship,supported usually by nice piano and organ parts.I'm not really fond of the following male operatic vocals.Despite they are also qualitive,they seem to bore me a bit along the way.Musically speaking the album is closer to Folk/Acoustic Prog Rock with elements from Classical Rock OperasMassive use of string instruments,flutes,pianos and keyboards in order to capture and adapt Silmarillion's images.AINUR do that well at some point,though most of the tracks sound quite similar. Surprisingly the few tracks containing the electric guitars/bass/drums combination (the longer ones actually) are closer to Hard Progressive Rock than Classic Prog.Metal riffing and intense vocals support this claim.Yet the balance seems a bit lost trying to listen to the album in its full version.Calm spacey,classical or medieval parts are mixed with almost metal music and that's not the best thing I can face.

The band is talented,no question about it.The problem is that music in here is quite similar in moments,a bit too calm for most of its part,while this Tolkien adaptions-thing seems too old- fashioned for me.However,I believe these musicians can do much better things in the future and I will support them with a 3 star rating.Recommended,considering always the afore- mentioned warnings.

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 From Ancient Times by AINUR album cover Studio Album, 2007
3.27 | 21 ratings

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From Ancient Times
Ainur Rock Progressivo Italiano

Review by Marty McFly
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4 stars OK, their debut is very similar to their next year's release, maybe they did it at once and released in this order. Maybe they just got a lot of inspiration (one of the greatest works of literature, Silmarillion I suppose, from which also Marillion draws at least name), I for example though about this masterpiece as the hardest book I know (then I encountered 1984 - hard in imagining it all, finally I've struggled with Zarathustra by Nietzsche and I'm not the winner). And as many others, I also think that it's unfinished (huh ? did I just heard somebody talking about Unfinished Tales ?) work and could be far better (better than masterpiece, uh oh). What I'm trying to say is that it's big world, completely unique world, set up to slightest details, with its own language, history and actually very well working universe.

These elements works in music too, because there's strange kind of harmony (excuse me, it's new for me to hear music inspired by book) between these two. Yeah, um, it works actually quite easy. I hear this music, first feeling that I'll have to laugh a little bit, but then I say to myself: "Why not, I mean, this works good, even it's not gothic choir, but rather bunch of merry elves singing together songs of joy".

4(-), 'cause they're still working it out. But in a very good way. I like it, I in fact wanted to give it at least (+), but there are gaps. And holes. And empty spaces, deaf parts of certain songs.

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 Children of Hurin by AINUR album cover Studio Album, 2008
3.77 | 22 ratings

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Children of Hurin
Ainur Rock Progressivo Italiano

Review by Marty McFly
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5 stars It's strange. First time I heard MUSIC before actually reading BOOK. As far as I know, Middle-earth inspired few groups, so it's the most inspiring book. How many progressive, or at least intelligent albums inspired Harry Potter (another fantasy book series, these two were compared a lot 6-10 years ago, even they're both completely different), not counting great score by John Williams, but Lord of the Rings have even better. Even it sounds like cliché now, as everyone know it and loves it and uses in every possible moment. Or at least used to do.

That's it, LOTR is simply interesting franchise. I don't know it master Tolkien predicted this, or even wanted to be all this commercial, but talking about inspiration for music, it's OK. And we all know that Rock Progressivo Italiano, or least its modern form is suitable for all kind of music, themes, moods and capable of transcending the genres. One word, Collosus Project, this band really reminds me it, except they're devoted just for J. R. Reurel's work. And they're doing it fine.

Guitar solos, strong element here. For example Spaghetti Epic's 1-3, this is similar, except completely different setting, but way how to do it is the same. Bad thing is that I don't complete story and don't want to spoil it by reading these infos and hints. Nope, all I need is a good depiction of Middle-Earth atmosphere and as far as I can tell, they quite made it. Victorian, or Baroque opera-like singing underlines it, tens of instruments also (see Mandalaband's second album?), so

5(-) for bringing this feeling and managing it. From time to time, I decide to add half a star here and there, or take it from some albums, depending on how good the music sounds like after some time passes bye. And I think I like this album more and more. There's almost no "sound" bad, no tone done in a way. You still don't expect where the stream will take you, but you feel weird, familiar feeling. Let's embrace it, don't hesitate.

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 From Ancient Times by AINUR album cover Studio Album, 2007
3.27 | 21 ratings

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From Ancient Times
Ainur Rock Progressivo Italiano

Review by 1967/ 1976

3 stars Another band inspired by J.R.R. Tolkien!

Ainur, a 18 pieces band, is another band inspired by J.R.R. Tolkien's 'The Silmarillion'. And this is normal, today (unfortunately). This band sung in English and for me not plays RPI in a strong sense. Is this a problem for a correct evalutation? Maybe... Maybe yes or maybe no... Because I can not able to evaluate this situation. In fact Ainur not plays true Prog. Or better, Ainur plays a sort of Folk Prog that is not Folk, not Prog and not Rock! In my mind this music sound as Opera Music!

Strange that the weight of cello, harps or flute are minimal when the electric guitars or synths have a good weight (too weight for electric guitar) and it is strange also that in some passges the music is also Power Metal (more for rhythms, style of vocals and structure). It is not strange the production style, extreme close to 70's.

My vision of Ainur's music is not totally bad. But I haven't a positive view for Ainur. Certainly 'From Ancient Times' is a good album that is easy to listen but that have few true Prog moments. Insignificant is the Italian tradition of Prog and in my opinion technique is the only true word for a correct description (and view) about this album. Interesting are 'War Of Wrath', 'The Fall Of Nargochrond' and 'The Fall Of Gondolin' but the rest of the album is close to New Age Rock. In this sense I think that Rick Wakeman is a good comparison also if Rick's music is too better (but I can not judge because this statement is prepared by my mind...!).

In my personal view 18 musicians for this type of music is too as number of musicians. Also because too are the voices, not all used correctly (with a good weight, more correctly).

Now I think that Ainur is a good band with good music, this is a correct judge. But not totally Prog. Sure if you love Prog Ainur is a band for you and in a correct view Ainur is a Prog band.

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 Children of Hurin by AINUR album cover Studio Album, 2008
3.77 | 22 ratings

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Children of Hurin
Ainur Rock Progressivo Italiano

Review by erik neuteboom
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3 stars

This is a CD/DVD box set that contains a wonderful 32 page booklet in which you can read how about this Tolkien inspired dark concept story (taken from the book Silmarillion). The music is performed by musicians who use a wide range of instruments, from harp, violin, French horn, clarinet and flute to keyboards and many male and female singers like a bass bariton. The amount of classical instruments is a strong indication what we can expect from Ainur during the 13 songs on Children Of Hurin.

CD: The first composition Morgoth's Prophecy is an impressive start, we can enjoy lots of dynamics between the classical instruments and the electric guitar and sensational Minimoog synthesizer flights, layered with classically trained vocals. The other 11 songs also deliver a blend of classic and progrock music with the emphasis a bit more on classical. But just when it tends too sound a bit too classical, the music turns into fluent, often sumptuous progrock like sparkling piano, porpulsive guitar and lush organ in Mim And The Outlaws, sweeping guitar riffs and fat Minimoog runs in The Sack Of Nargothrond and beautiful interplay between electric guitar and the Minimoog with a progmetal sounding rhythm-section in Glaurung's Death, Ainur succeeds to keep my attention during the entire album! The sound on Children Of Hurin is in the vein of their debut CD entitled From Ancient Times (2007), I tend to prefer their second effort and I am very curious to the development of this promising new Italian progrock band.

DVD: The main footage is the Original Ainur Live Video featuring two songs from the Children Of Hurin CD, we can witness that Ainur is very capable to perform their story on stage, also in the track War Of Wrath (on the From Ancient Times album) that contains heavy guitarwork, pleasant keyboardwork by two members along violins and a bariton, great tension between two musical styles. Finally two live songs from earlier concerts in this section. The other extra's are Interview, Recording Sessions, Ainur History Documentary, Ainu Live Documentary and Extra Video.

A big hand for the unknown new Italian progrock band Ainur, they deserve a bit more attention on this site! My rating: a very solid 3,5 stars, next album 4 stars?



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 Children of Hurin by AINUR album cover Studio Album, 2008
3.77 | 22 ratings

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Children of Hurin
Ainur Rock Progressivo Italiano

Review by Andrea Cortese
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

4 stars Ainur did it again!

From lovely Italy to the the vast plans and highest peaks of the Middle Earth. The band (a collective of 18 people) offers an intriguing musical journey based on pure and strong symphonic prog tinged here and there with delicate celtic influences.

It's the same pattern of their debut but now the result seems to be slightly more refined and complex than that. The general atmosphere could be easily recognized as the perfect soundtrack for an epic fantasy movie.

The band still continues the challenging work revealing a wide range of styles and influences: you'll find here medieval and languid interludes, celtic and quasi-pop madrigals, strong and hard guitars blended with orchestra and vintage keyboards (moog above all). The same vocal richness of the first album is their trade mark: recitative parts, whispers, operatic singers (bass and soprano), clear male and female singing depending on which part of the Silmarillion they're singing about.

Above all the majestic and powerful opener Morgoth's Profecy which is simply superb and probably their best track until now. It opens with obscure recitative vocals and a soft orchestral movement that gently fades out and gives place to a symphonic tour de force enriched by mellower (quasi jazzy) parts with clarinet, intriguing melody, pizzicato and female vocals in the middle theme. Then, the main theme returns back with its groovy rythm and catching variation (clarinet is also an interesting element). Moog and synths alternating with more dramatic and choral patterns rememering somehow to some fleeting Gryphon parts in their magnum opus Red Queen to Gryphon Tree. All in all this is far from being a prog folk record. Anyway the folk and celtic roots are evident and elegantly absorbed in the ideas of this excellent musical project. Excellent also the pompous parts with french horn.

Another excellent record from a contemporary italian prog band.

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3.77 | 22 ratings

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Review by feanor77

5 stars When I listen to Children of Hurin my mind travels between tales and legends written by Tolkien. My opinion is about the Deluxe Edition of CD: I know Ainur and I think that their dimension is more than musical in fact in the DVD you can find their live performance (That's incredible!!), few documentaries about story, composition and Tolkien himself. Moreover in the Deluxe Edition the graphic and artwork is taken to very high level thanks to Dino Olivieri that, in my opinion, has got an approach extremely allusive. The music of Ainur in this album is more various than in the first I think: classical and lyrical parts are more integrated in rock and metal parts while the use of voices is like a Musical Work. I feel 5 stars about this album because of its incredible variety of musical genres, the beauty of composition and quality of video and audio work.

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Review by bspark

2 stars After I 'v listened their first album - From Ancient Times,I was very pleased to hear very good music. So I'v waited their second album eagerly, and It happened one day they released second album. What a excited I was when I first discovered the album. but the feeling did not go long. after I listened their second album several times, It disappointed me , not as much as I expected but much boring in comparison with the album cover! Over all not good as first album.

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