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Eclectic Prog • United Kingdom


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The brainchild of this musical project was Julian SAVARIN who was born in Dominica and moved to Britian in the early Sixties. He was impressed by the London music scene and decided to form his own band to start his ideas about a SF trilogy he was working on. He started rehearsing with John Dover (bass), Del Watkins (guitar), Jack Drummond (drums) and Cathy Pruden (vocals). In june '70 the label Youngblood released their first album "A Time Before This". But due to problems of management, promotion and money JULIAN'S TREATMENT had to demise. Julian returned to writing, concentrating on the second part of his trilogy he had in mind. Two years later Julian was approached by Birth records to make a new album. Only bass player John Dover came from the old line-up, other musicians of JULIAN'S new band were Nigel Jenkins (guitar), Roger Odell (drums) and Jo Meek (vocals). In '73 the second album "Waiters On The Dance" came out, credited by Julian J. SAVARIN. Again, there was a total lack of promotion and exposure. Nowadays these two albums are very healthy priced collector items. But we don't have to worry about what happened to JULIAN, he has became a famous writer. First in Japan and later worldwide he succesfully published lots of novels (for instance: Waterhole, The Quiraing List, Naja and Hammerhead).

The best way to get an impression of this highly acclaimed "cultband" is the "See For Miles" re-release CD "A time before this..plus" ('90). It contains 18 tracks, spanning the period 1970-1973. The music is build upon the expressive and powerful vocals of Cathy Pruden and the compelling keyboards of Julian (lots of organ and some Mellotron). Some songs feature fine electric guitarwork. Imagine a psychedelic/gothic EARTH & FIRE but at first this is very unique music and it deserves a wider audience.

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3.74 | 39 ratings
A Time Before This
1970
3.91 | 25 ratings
Julian Jay Savarin : Waiters On The Dance
1971

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A Time Before This ... Plus (1970-73)
1990

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Phantom City
1970

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 A Time Before This by JULIAN'S TREATMENT album cover Studio Album, 1970
3.74 | 39 ratings

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Julian's Treatment Eclectic Prog

Review by Second Life Syndrome
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3 stars Wow, what a mind trip! I can't think of any other summary for this album, really. This is one of the strangest albums I've heard in a while, either musically or thematically. On top of that, the artwork is phenomenal!

Musically, "A Time Before This" is a mix of 70s prog and psychedelic rock. Everything sounds very spacey and or mysterious. The organ and flute solos are done quite well, and they are very mystical and fantastical in their presentation. The guitars have almost a hard Hendrix feel to them, though less technical. They certainly aren't the dominant instrument, as everything works really well together. The band plays really well off of each other. Also, some really strange song structures, such as on "The Coming of the Mule", complement the music seriously. Lastly, Cathy's vocals are female to the core: very powerful with a slightly hardened edge to them, but also somewhat faint in the mix. Much of the album is instrumental, but we are blessed with her interesting vocal style often enough.

The theme here is really weird. Just strange. We get to hear all about Altarra, the blue-skinned goddess/princess and the fantasy world in which she lives and rules. Now, I don't know about you, but I like fantasy and sci-fi. But this album seems more like an acid trip talking than a serious musician or author writing lyrics. The keyboardist, Julian Savarin, was a sci-fi author, and so he wrote this compelling work of fiction from his strange imagination. The funny thing is that they work. No matter how strange this album is, it works pretty well. I wouldn't call this a masterpiece. Maybe not even excellent. But I would call it a very strong 3 star album that is worth listening to soon.

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 A Time Before This by JULIAN'S TREATMENT album cover Studio Album, 1970
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Julian's Treatment Eclectic Prog

Review by VOTOMS

4 stars Ready for more obscure music and SCI-FI? So here is another overlooked british treasure from 1970. The Julian's Treatment one-shot is called A Time Before, and was lead by Julian Savarin, an organ player and sci-fi writer. He's the one who wrote all the lyrics / concept and music. Symphonic, atmospheric and psychedelic. Savarin planned two following albums to continue A Time Before concept. He couldn't release the following sequences, but his solo album, Waiters on The Dance, is a sequel to this work. The plot line of the album is: The earth is destroyed. A male earthian comes to the planet Alkon and meets the female-creature Altarra. It's a space opera. The songs aren't lenghty. You know, the album is divided into 12 chapters/tracks. But the songs even short has many variations and time changes to keep you busy. And there's something special about this album: the female hypnotic vocals. Cathy Pruden was a good singer, I really don't know about her, but his job here is very well done. The music is leaded by Savarin organ, and it's awesome. Some good flute fills too. As a space- opera, it have some spacey passages like Altarra, Princess of the Blue Women, and the right progression of these times prove the musician hability to describe the feeling of the represented story. It requires some story-telling skills. And the music together with Cathy vocals provides the best. The album of course has guitar, bass and drums. Fine, but not the highlight. This is a great entertainment for any oldschool progressive rock fan.

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Review by Dark Nazgul

3 stars Followers of Robert Heinlein, Arthur Clarke, Philip Dick and Robert Sheckley, this could be for you!

Julian Savarin, musician and writer of science fiction, is the author of one of the the most striking albums of the early '70s. "A Time Before This" is an interesting "sci-fi opera" with characters such as Alma, Dark Lady of the Outer Worlds, and Altarra, blue-skinned alien princess. Musically, the entire album is based on the organ played by Savarin, while other instruments like flute and guitars do not have the same relevance. The warm and bluesy female vocals of Cathy Pruden is perfectly in tune with the band's psychedelic approach; without doubt the interpretation of the singer makes an important, perhaps crucial added value to the album.

Not always the music is extraordinary, but much of the album is extremely enjoyable. Although the length of the record, the listening is pleasant and surely not too challenging, often based on rather catchy organ riffs.

All songs are played in psychedelic/jazz-rock style, with the omnipresent Hammond organ. The best moments are in my opinion The Coming Of The Mule, Phantom City, The Dark Tower, The Terran, Fourth From The Sun, Alkon, Planet Of Centauri, and Strange Things; the two prophecies of the oracle help to create a wonderful sci-fi atmosphere. Not always, howewer, the quality of the music is excellent, for example in the closing title track and in Alda, Lady Of The Outer Worlds.

Surely not a masterpiece of progressive, but an album of good quality, accessible to all lovers of classic rock, funny and original. Final rating: 6 / 10.

Best song: Strange Things

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Review by Tom Ozric
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4 stars Julian J Savarin, musician and author - I don't know much about him, but JULIAN'S TREATMENT is a name I recall seeing from my first Prog-Rock resource, the Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Prog Rock - now it's all P.A. - where those in the know offer reliable information about these long-lost underground gems, and with that I can say that 'A Time Before This' is a beauty. Conceptually, the album is a "fantasy story set in part of our galaxy, about people whom we believe live in this galaxy.... " Savarin has assembled a solid band here, a proficient rhythm section keeping the soloists on their toes with hyperactive grooves, a lass by the name of Cathy Pruden on vocals (whose singing style and voice vaguely recalls Jerney Kaagman, from Dutch proggers EARTH & FIRE), an able Guitarist with a biting attack to his playing who also knows subtlety when he switches to Flute, and Savarin himself, who knows his way around the Hammond organ, and shows off his considerable talent on the instrument. A thought came to my mind whilst listening to this - think of CRAZY WORLD OF ARTHUR BROWN but without the craziness. This is an extremely memorable dose of Psy-Fi oriented Prog and an excellent addition to your collection. 4/5

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Julian's Treatment Eclectic Prog

Review by Ricochet
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4 stars Julian's Treatment absorbs all the juiciness, art heaviness, kind craziness and inspirational pleasantness out of the late 60s/early 70s period, to create an album that's stunning as a complex and eurhythmic progressive rock fundamental spice, as a psychedelic (the archaic, bluesy, kaleidoscopic or hard-taunting kinds, it doesn't matter; maybe a bit neurotic as well, though you grow rather reluctant to that impression) adventure, as a hard fantasy and as a gulping powerful, dominating, yet also expressive and passioned music moment. I can't even name it a debut, not only because Julian's Treatment released only two storming and (en)chanting - without being a...(en)chant(ment) - the second being credited as Savarin's, but because it sounds just like taken from the oven, in a hot and strong taste: music with drops of dazzle, rock with hard work and special feelings smoking out of it, plus a sort of eclectic taste that can't stay like that without being called, at least, artistic. Perilously and mystifyingly, that is.

With the above euphoric paragraph concluded, I think we can put a reminder on the fact that this album, as well as Julian's Treatment itself, can't be called an easy thing up in the treasures of progressive rock, but it sure is lovely to discover, out of the depths of the genre. It's considerably far from classic prog rock, though it, complexly, belongs to that authentic time and development. In rest, it doesn't defy in styles, it only focuses on them with a compelling lush. A Time Before This is most likely the best of the two that you can adore, notable being its "Plus Version" re-release in 1990, marking how well, clairvoyant, apart from their time and taste, but also obscure and hard to prefer these guys were - mostly thanks to this epic music-gram.

A Time Before This struggles a bit, being full-bounded and complicated, with its styles and shapes, but pulls in the end a victorious mount. The most living ideas are that J'sT plays psychedelic with spae airs, without fragility and never with absurd spots, plus that it plays an untypical kind of hard prog rock, keen on caramelizing its strong roots rather than jamming with thirst. Despite these already good reflection, there is a crave for many other flavors, the most kicking one being symphonic - in fact, the first "chapter" can be called psych, but the next ones fade in favor of art rock or symphonic fantasy. Was earlier mentioning that the psych can also contour some dark blues, one that's not impressive, but neither wrong. Folk happens to break into more than the "musical story", lovely flutes arousing like jasmine contrasts, a dance occasionally breathing out melancholic emotions. A main thought will also becomes that of A Time Before This being a concept of mystic, fantastic themes, still music turns out greater. Reading that the band is using sci-fi ideas, I like to believe character like "Adia", the "Oracles" or "the Mule" are good for a story-tale or for a mythical expression. Lastly, the musicians of Julian's Treatment are ones you couldn't write enough about - very talented. Savarin seems the prog genius, but for sure Cathy Pruden is a vocalist I truly love.

With all this, A Time Before This sounds of an impeccable creativity. And, given the influences, they're one step close to having originality as well. I guess Earth & Fire, Sandrose or Rare Bird are good/fit analogies, though I've yet to find out how they sound. Pink Floyd and Omega touch some psych spots, but they're absolutely the wrong prog idols to talk about (same with the small folk being Tull-ish, this folk is beyond popular taste). As a strange thought, I hear some ELP twisted fuses and jams - instead, two pieces are convincingly close to Aphrodite's Child and 666's own rock tale, thanks to powerful narration. Ending on the same loose note, I haven't heard such dark-flavored, candle-burning moments of fantasy and improvised poetry (incantations-like) since Os Mundi, which was a long time ago. All the twelve chapters are generous and have craft, they flow intensely, they charm you possessively. It can be a fascinating world, musically adapted, if you like your prog deeper, more reaming, and close to breathless.

Highly recommended.

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Julian's Treatment Eclectic Prog

Review by freed

5 stars A perfect masterpiece i listen/ed to many many times. The intelligent texts and story, combined with the gripping voice of the lady singer Cathy Pruden make it an utterly rememberable experience. First heard at a German progressive rock radio programme, i was searching for it widely for quite a long time. In 1972 i was able to order the double album from Foto-Radi Kaiser from Heidelberg. I guess it was one of my happiest moments when the package arrived...

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 Julian Jay Savarin : Waiters On The Dance by JULIAN'S TREATMENT album cover Studio Album, 1971
3.91 | 25 ratings

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Julian's Treatment Eclectic Prog

Review by erik neuteboom
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4 stars The brainchild of this musical project is Julian Savarin. He was born in Dominica but moved with his family to Britain in the early Sixties. He was a writer and a keyboard player and longing to fullfill his musical ideas. Julian recruited his own band with John Dover on bass, Del Watkins on guitar, Jack Drummond on drums and Cathy Pruden on vocals. They started rehearsing and gigging round London as Julian's Treatment. In june '70 the label Youngblood released their first album "A Time Before This". Two years later Julian was approached by Birth records to make a new album. Only bass player John Dover came from the old line-up, other musicians of Julian's new band were Nigel Jenkins (guitar), Roger Odell (drums) and Lady JoMeek (vocals). And in '73 the second album "Waiters On The Dance" came out, credited by Julian J. Savarin (nowadays a famous SF writer!).

The music on this second album sounds very dated and relatively simple but the atmospheres are often very compelling, due to the warm and powerful voice of Lady JoMeek (with echoes from Annie Haslam but with more emotion), the omnipresent floods of Hammond organ, some majestic flute - and violin Mellotron drops, fiery guitar play and a fluent rhythm-section. The album contains six compositions, all are on the compilation A Time Before This .. Plus except the track Dance Of The Golden Flamingoes (wonderful interplay between Melotron and Hammond organ), that's why I have bought this CD!

Julian's Treatment their melodic and tasteful sound has echoes from Earth & Fire, Rare Bird and Bram Stoker, blended with some psychedelic undertones and harder-edged guitar work. In my opinion this is one of the most overlooked gems on Prog Archives!



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 A Time Before This ... Plus (1970-73) by JULIAN'S TREATMENT album cover Boxset/Compilation, 1990
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Julian's Treatment Eclectic Prog

Review by erik neuteboom
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4 stars The brainchild of this musical project was Julian Savarin. He was born in Dominica but moved with his family to Britain in the early Sixties. He was a writer and a keyboard player and longing to fullfill his musical ideas. Julian recruited his own band with John Dover on bass, Del Watkins on guitar, Jack Drummond on drums and Cathy Pruden on vocals. They started rehearsing and gigging round London as JULIAN'S TREATMENT. In june '70 the label Youngblood released their first album "A Time Before This". Two years later Julian was approached by Birth records to make a new album. Only bass player John Dover came from the old line-up, other musicians of JULIAN's new band were Nigel Jenkins (guitar), Roger Odell (drums) and Jo Meek (vocals). And in '73 the second album "Waiters On The Dance" came out, credited by Julian J. Savarin (nowadays a famous writer!). In 1990 the British label See For Miles Records released a compilation with material from JULIAN'S TREATMENT recorded between 1970 and 1973. It's entitled "A Time Before This ... Plus" and a perfect showcase of the exciting sound from JULIAN'S TREATMENT: lots of organ, strong female vocals, a dynamic rhythm-section and some piano, guitar, flute and Mellotron. The music frequently alternates from melodic progrock in the vein of EARTH & FIRE (female vocals and layers of organ) to ominous climates with hints from the Gothic scene featuring haunting vocals and majestic Hammond organ. My highlight on this compilation is the compelling composition "Child of the night 1 + 2" delivering wonderful vocals, impressive Hammond organ, some beautiful flute - and violin Mellotron waves and fiery electric guitar, this is the band at their best. The music from JULIAN'S TREATMENT sounds very dated and relatively simple but if you love the organ-based progrock bands from the early British Progressive Rock Movement like RARE BIRD, BRAM STOKER, QUATERMASS or GRACIOUS, don't miss this underrated, often missed band with the powerful female vocals and splendid organplay as their trademark!


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Review by Proghead
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4 stars Julian Jay Savarin was a British author who wrote his share of music. In the early '70s, he also involved himself in music, by applying his sci-fi know-how to lyrics and playing organ. He assembled a band called JULIAN'S TREATMENT, with him on organ, Australian-born Cathy Pruden on vocals, and a couple other guys handling the usual (guitar, bass, drums, flute). "A Time Before This" originally released in 1970 on the Youngblood label, is an interesting combination of prog and late '60s psychedelia, with spacy organ, and of course, sci-fi oriented lyrics. I've heard this band compared with everything from EARTH & FIRE to SANDROSE to The United States of America (the late '60s psychedelic electronic rock act with Joe Byrd and Dorothy Moskowitz).

"The Coming of the Mule" is an instrumental piece with guitar that sounds like it came off a FOCUS album, as well as classically-influenced organ. "Phantom City" has more of that late '60s psychedelic vibe, complete with phasing (like you hear from the Small Faces' "Itchycoo Park" or the BEATLES' "I Am the Walrus"). "The Black Tower" is a bit more laid back, showing that Cathy Pruden was truly the lady for this album. "Alda, Dark Lady of the Outer Worlds" has Pruden singing like an evil lady. "Altarra, Princess of the Blue Women" is another mellow piece, with that cosmic atmosphere. "Fourth From the Sun" has a somewhat more jazzy-bent, especially from the drum department.

Anyways, original LPs of "A Time Before This" don't exactly grow on trees, but recently, Akarma had reissued this on CD with the original artwork, in a wonderful digipak (that is, featuring miniaturized LP-type packaging), but unfortunately they forgot to give us information on who was in the band, or the lyrics to the songs. Also they wrongly give the album a 1972 copyright (perhaps 1972 was the year of the album's American release, which was released here on Decca, with a totally different cover - 1970 was the original British release on Youngblood). Anyway, this is truly a wonderful, forgotten prog/psych gem worth looking for.

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