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3.36 | 10 ratings | 3 reviews | 20% 5 stars

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Boxset/Compilation, released in 1998

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Paralyzing Ignorance (4:27)
2. Erroneous Manipulation (6:20)
3. Abneagating Cecity (6:31)
4. Internal Evidence (7:28)
5. Qualms of Reality (7:07)
6. We'll Never See the Day (6:03)
7. Greed (7:06)
8. Choirs of Devastation (4:00)
9. Cadeverous Mastication (7:31)
10. Humiliative (5:17)
11. Sickening (5:46)
12. Ritual (6:17)
13. Gods of Rapture (5:10)

Total Time: 79:03

Line-up / Musicians

- Fredrik Thordendal / guitar, lead vocals
- Peter Nordin / bass, vocals
- Jens Kidman / guitar, lead vocals
- Tomas Haake / drums, vocals

Releases information

CD Nuclear Blast NB 292-2 / 27361 62922 (1998, Europe, digipack)

This is a compilation that features the whole 'Contradictions Collapse' album from 1991, as well as the 'None' EP from 1994. Unfortunately, the last track on 'None' was cut from this album because of length, so there are only 13 tracks on this album instead of 14.

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Review by Tapfret
4 stars Two selections for a transitional period

Sub-genre: Tech/Extreme Prog-Metal (Strong fit)
For Fans of: Death, Atheist, Cynic, '80's thrash metal
Vocal Style: Not quite Cookiemonster, but an equally annoying yell fest.
Guitar Style: Heavily distorted, Metallica-like in the Contradictions Collapse numbers, more compressed and gated with Holdsworth style warm solo tones during None. Each album contains occasional clean breaks
Keyboard Style: Choral patch for ambience only heard on solo/bridge section of Gods of Rapture
Percussion Style: Heavy Heavy Metal, technically strong, thick with polyrhythms, especially on None
Bass Style: Occasional overdrive, picked metal bass
Other Instruments: None

Summary: The LP and EP presented in this collection mark important transition in the approach to Meshuggah's music. Contradictions Collapse, their first LP release is primarily viewed as a thrash metal album. The beats are fairly straight forward with occasional breaks and oblique syncopations. But the foundations for something different than the Slayers and Metallicas of the day had already been laid. Large sections of the songs included vast Jazz influenced chord extensions as well as tri- tonal and whole tone intervals that were few and far between at the time in the metal world. Hints of guitarist Fredrik Thordendahl's love of Alan Holdsworth were spicing his solos. This love comes into full light in None, particularly in the song Gods of Rapture, with its long keyboard backed, syncopated bridge/solo section. The EP marked a shift in the drumming approach as well. The opening song, Humiliative, starts with a rarely heard, almost drunken sounding polyrhythm that basically set the tone for the remainder of Meshuggah's career. The recording quality is greatly improved as well. The guitars have a tighter, compressed feel that give abrupt thumps with every chord.

Final Score: Whether considered a thrash metal or progressive metal album, Contradictions Collapse contains some tight, quality songs. No less than 3 stars. None is a defining moment in Tech/Extreme Progmetal. 4.5 stars. Kidmans voice is always a half star subtraction. Bonus points for leaving the ultra annoying Aztec Two-Step off the album.
3.8 Stars rounded up.

Review by UMUR
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator
3 stars This is tech metal band Meshuggah´s debut album. An album I have owned for many years. I had heard about Meshuggah and seen commercials for Contradictions Collapse in some of the metal magazines I read at the time. This version has the None EP included.

In time I have come to appreciate Contradictions Collapse more, but it will never be my favorite Meshuggah album. It´s way to imature. The tecnical level is very high, but I think there are too many ideas in every song to really catch my attention. Something I think is so different from the later albums from Meshuggah which are more repetitive but also more groovy and heavy IMO. I have a tendency to get tired of Contradictions Collapse after a couple of songs because there´s too much happening and no direction.

The production is good, but not outstanding.

The level of the musicians are so high that I have a hard time figuring out what they play at times. Tempo and time signature changes are a piece of cake for these guys and it is done with ease at high speed. I have always been fashinated by drummer Tomas Haake and on this release it is no different. The man is simply one of the best drummers in the world, if you like this kind of drumming.

None was released as a kind of teaser to Destroy Erase Improve. I remember when it came out, and the reviewers of various metal magazines praised this EP for the high technical level but also for the special groove that Meshuggah had on this release. I didn´t buy it then but have purchased it a couple of years ago.

The music is very different from the music on the debut album Contradictions Collape as Meshuggah have made their music more simple and groove oriented. A sort of technical Pantera you could say. At the time of it´s release this was called Groove thrash. Many bands followed in their wake and they were considered as a genre defining band. A role they have again taken with their later albums.

The more simple thrash metal on None suits me better than the tech metal attack they showed on Contradictions Collapse even though I am not too impressed. A song like Gods of Rapture is really cool though. Ritual has some singing from Jens Kidman but I don´t think it works very well. The last song Aztec Two-Step from the original EP is omitted from this version.

The production is a bit better than on Contradictions Collapse, but not really good.

As I gave both Contradictions Collapse and None 3 stars this will also be my rating here even though you obviously get more for your money.

Review by siLLy puPPy
COLLABORATOR PSIKE, JR/F/Canterbury & Eclectic Teams
3 stars Combo packs are always cool because more often than not you get a good deal that includes some rare or hard to track down tracks that have been out of print for a while but often such compilations throw you a curve ball by advertising one thing and only delivering an incompletion of the entire package. Such is the case with the 1998 MESHUGGAH compilation that combined the 1991 debut album "Contradictions Collapse" with the following 1994 EP "None." The original release by Nuclear Blast was only available in digipak but has since been released as a regular CD as well as vinyl 12".

This compilation contains all eight tracks from the original "Contradictions Collapse" plus the extra track "Cadaverous Mastication" which appeared originally on the debut self-titled EP (also known as "Psykisk Testbild") but has been tacked on to later versions of MESHUGGAH's debut full-length album. While this is fine and dandy, what irks me is that the EP "None" only appears with the first four tracks while the fifth "Aztec Two-Step" has been eliminated due to time limits since it skirted close to the eleven minute mark. While some have stated they find the track annoying, i personally love it and find the "None" experience incomplete without it. Other than that the album flows along with both releases appearing in order of original release.

One thing i do appreciate about this combo pack is that it represents in full contrast the great leap of technical prowess that MESHUGGAH undertook during the three year period between. The debut found the band still stuck in their early Metallica worship years with many riffs lifted directly from albums like "Master Of Puppets" and "?And Justice For All" although the band was starting to unleash the latent experimental freakery which at the time was still kept on a leash. The difference between the last track of "Contradictions Collapse" and the leading "Humiliative" from "None" is stark as it clearly displays how progressive, technical and experimental the band had become as it shed its thrash dependencies and sallied forth into the brave new world of djent-ology.

Since "None" is incomplete, this is really just an edition of "Contradictions Collapse" with four bonus tracks but four really good bonus tracks that hopefully will lead to acquisition of the actual EP in its entirety. While many may not really care if a mere one track is missing, especially from an EP which is often regarded as supplemental, then this is not a bad way to go but for me, "None" is the far superior release and deserves to be experienced in its entirety. I understand why these sorts of comps are released considering many wouldn't bother to track down the EPs that lurk between the cracks but it totally irritates me when such comps represent themselves as being the complete editions at hand but take liberties in editing out relevant material. Oh well.

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