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2.08 | 43 ratings | 3 reviews | 12% 5 stars

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Songs / Tracks Listing

1. In Too Deep (4:59)
2. I'd Rather Be You (3:54)

Total Time 8:53

1. In Too Deep (5:01)
2. I'd Rather Be You (7:00)

Line-up / Musicians

- Tony Banks / keyboards, synth bass, backing vocals
- Phil Collins / drums, percussion, lead vocals, backing vocals
- Mike Rutherford / lead guitar, bass guitar, backing vocals

Releases information

7": Charisma GENS 2 (1986)
12" Charisma: GENS 2-12 (1986)

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GENESIS In Too Deep ratings distribution

(43 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(12%)
Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(9%)
Good, but non-essential (33%)
Collectors/fans only (23%)
Poor. Only for completionists (23%)

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Review by Easy Livin
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
2 stars Cod Supremes

The second UK single from "Invisible touch" was all too predictably a ballad. Unfortunately, it is a bland insipid song, which would suit the style of any boy band who covered it. Released in 1986 in the UK, it just managed to breach the top 20, reaching 19. The click machine backing track, and so-sorry-for himself Phil Collins vocals are a million miles even from the post Gabriel era albums such as "A Trick of the tail".

The B side in the UK was an edited version of the non-album track "Do the neurotic", an instrumental which at least demonstrates that the band still knew how to make instrumentals. It is far from being their best, and does not compare well with say "Los Endos", but it is a reasonable attempt to return to what they used to do so well. The 12" single version had the full version of this track.

It was April 1987 before "In too deep" was release din the USA, where it reached the top 3. This time, the B side was another non-album track, "I'd rather be with you", a soul/funk based song which sounds much more at home with other "Invisible touch" album tracks. This cod Supremes number is instantly forgettable.

Review by Guillermo
2 stars "In Too Deep" is a very "sugar ballad", maybe the best example of the "Sugar Pop Rock" music which they liked then. It is a song which has an excess in "sugar feelings", and it also has lyrics about a broken love relationship. I was surprised when I went to the cinema to see the film called "Mona Lisa" in late 1986. This song was included in that film which has actor Bob Hoskins in the main role (and some friends commented to me that he looked a lot like Phil Collins in image in that film). "In Too Deep" is not a very good ballad, but it still has some good keyboard sounds played by Tony Banks, and a bit of the old arpegio guitars from the seventies. The video for this song is not very good too, IMO, with the band dressed like Barry Manilow.
Review by progaardvark
COLLABORATOR Crossover/Symphonic Teams
1 stars Even if you are a collector of 45 rpm singles of pop songs from former progressive rock bands, In Too Deep is simply a terrible pop ballad undeserving of even making a collection of outtakes. It reminds me of elevators, supermarkets, physician's offices, car rental offices, and two-floor American suburban malls; basically the kinds of places that think this would make soothing background music. Yawning is typically the main cause of listening to this.

On the US release B side is the song I'd Rather Be You. This song is basically a fast-paced, bouncy pop song. It would fit nicely on Phil's No Jacket Required solo album. This song found its way onto the Archive 2 box set. So both sides of this single are quite awful. If it could receive less than one star, it certainly deserves it.

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