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Studio Album, released in 1980

Songs / Tracks Listing

"God Save the Queen":
1. Red Two Scorer (6:54)
2. God Save The Queen (9:50)
3. 1983 (13:20)
"Under Heavy Manners":
4. Under Heavy Manners (5:14)
5. The Zero Of The Signifed (12:38)

Total Time: 47:56

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Line-up / Musicians

- Robert Fripp / guitar
- Buster Jones / bass on "Under Heavy Manners" and "The Zero Of The Signified"
- Paul Duskins / drums on "Under Heavy Manners" and "The Zero Of The Signified"
- Absalm el Habib (AKA David Byrne) / voice on "Under Heavy Manners"

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LP: 1980 US EG/PolyGram/Polydor PD-1-6266

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ROBERT FRIPP God Save the Queen / Under Heavy Manners ratings distribution


2.88
(28 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(11%)
11%
Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(14%)
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Good, but non-essential (43%)
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Review by laplace
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2 stars An album featuring one of Mr. Fripp's more notable soundscapes, marred by his singular vision of "Discotronics."

The first two glistening fields of sound pass pleasantly enough, but "1983" is the relevant and most enduring track on "God Save the Queen" and past this point you'll experience a drop in quality like no other - side B is basically occupied by two bouncing riff experiments, unfurnished by anything more than a rudimentary rhythm section and chattered over by David Byrne at perhaps his most irritating. A bit of a pothole on the road to 1981, it seems.

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Review by js (Easy Money)
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2 stars As the 80s approached Robert Fripp found himself purposefully trying to distance himself from the grandiose music he had created in the early to mid-70s. Big progressive rock productions were passe and Fripp was trying to attach himself to the more cutting edge art-rock and new wave bands that were emerging in the late 70s. Minimalism was also a big influence during this period. Composers like Steve Reich and Phillip Glass were enjoying almost rock star status and pop artists such as Devo and Talking Heads were enjoying huge popularity with their minimalist influenced rock.

There was a lot of "buzz" surrounding this release even before it came out. In interviews Fripp hinted at a new lean and intelligent approach to rock that would take him into the brave new world of the 80s. When I first heard this record in 1980 I thought Robert had succeeded in combining Gamelan influenced minimalism with new wave rock and had created a blueprint for many bands to follow. Unfortunately, listening to this record again many years later I find it has not aged well. This record is a good example of the trap you set for yourself when you follow the newest trends too closely, your work ends up being too easily identified with the time period in which it came out.

Side one consists of three ambient instrumentals that feature Fripp's tape looped guitar recording technique known as Frippertronics. The first track, Red Two Scorer is nice enough, but things start to get boring soon after that. Without Eno around to help with production and "treatments", Fripp's guitar sounds stale after a while.

Side two consists of two rock songs that introduce Fripp's new 80s style. The basic idea behind these two songs is not bad, a simple rock beat overlaid with interlocking complicated guitar parts, but there are drawbacks to these songs that undermine the whole project. The first problem is the plodding rhythm section. Surely Fripp could have gotten better musicians, but I guess he thought these guys made him sound more "punk".

Another big problem is that there is no attention to sound texture or production. Music that is repetitive like this really needs some depth and color or it becomes boring quickly. In the hands of a team like Eno and Manzenera this same material would have been a lot more interesting. Finally, the bad icing on the bad cake is the voice of David Byrne on the song Under Heavy Manners. When this record was released Byrne was considered very nouveau hip and it certainly made Robert's record seem more relevant to have him on board. Unfortunately this would be another case of 'trying too hard to be hip' having a bad effect in the long run. They might as well have had Pee Wee Herman do the vocals because nothing says 80s like David Byrne, at the peak of his career, getting away with being totally full of himself and blabbering some pretentious fake madness with that "voice" of his. It has been a long time since anyone has encouraged him to be that self-indulgent.

Fripp tried too hard to be contemporary on this one, and ironically enough that is what makes it sound anachronistic today. It also doesn't help that the production is so flat and unimaginative, this album's blend of ambient and minimalistic styles could have really blossomed under the guidance of a skilled producer

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5 stars Underrated falls short. A masterpiece from A to Z. The year 1980, the mass arising of drum-box generated music was just to start; of course the electronic prog pioneers were well established by the time, but this was the future. Like it or not, and all the "Giants" surrendered to these boxes. I c ... (read more)

Report this review (#886457) | Posted by admireArt | Wednesday, January 02, 2013 | Review Permanlink

3 stars 2012-04-10 Robert Fripp - God Save The Queen / Under Heavy Manners Copy reviewed LP. In Fripp's Drive To 1981 this 1980 album may represent the real building block upon which Disciplined, later to rename themselves King Crimson would be built upon. Fripp had developed his system of Frippe ... (read more)

Report this review (#720462) | Posted by uduwudu | Tuesday, April 10, 2012 | Review Permanlink

3 stars Now, how's this for a lark: Bobby "Chuckles" Fripp decided to give you, the consumer, a whole lotta bang for your buck. Rather than selling two EPs, he lowered costs and presented "God Save The Queen" and "Under Heavy Manners" on a single album. Brilliant economy, but what about the music? On one ... (read more)

Report this review (#287811) | Posted by WalterDigsTunes | Monday, June 21, 2010 | Review Permanlink

4 stars I bought a copy of this album shortly after its release and for the first time in my young life as a record buyer I returned it straight after listening to the record shop to exchange it for another title. I was sixteen, into all things King Crimson (70s), Gabriel, Genesis, Yes etc. and just d ... (read more)

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