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3.14 | 46 ratings | 7 reviews | 28% 5 stars

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Studio Album, released in 1972

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Baby listen
2. Hey man
3. House in the city
4. Epic forest
5. Turning the lights out
6. Her darkest hour
7. Fears of the night
8. Turn it all around
9. Title No. 1 again (Birdman)

...Bonus tracks on Red Fox

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Line-up / Musicians

- Andy "Ced" Curtis / guitars, piano, percussion, vocals
- Steve Gould / guitars, percussion, vocals
- Paul Holland / percussion, producer
- Dave Kaffinetti / Hammond & Farfisa organs, electric piano, percussion
- Paul Karas / bass, percussion, backing vocals
- Fred Kelly / drums, percussion, congas
- Nic Potter / percussion

Releases information

LP +single) Polydor 2442 101 / LP +single Polydor 2814 011 / LP Polydor 5530 / CD Red Fox (1998)

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RARE BIRD Epic Forest ratings distribution


3.14
(46 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(28%)
28%
Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(30%)
30%
Good, but non-essential (26%)
26%
Collectors/fans only (15%)
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Review by loserboy
PROG REVIEWER
3 stars Late 60's/ 70's British Progressive rock band RARE BIRD released a few great albums over their career with "Epic Forest" representing one of their milestones. Although RARE BIRD are best known for their organ-driven progressive sounds, "Epic Forest" reduced the emphasis of the keys here and added a wider jazz prog feel with a slightly more contemporary 70's soft rock vibe. The musicianship is very strong with some great vocal harmonies and instrumentation. As in all early RARE BIRD albums the songs are very well written and are very memorable with Dave Kaffinetti as the helm of the song writing department (later in his career would co-write with Big House, MARILLION). On this album we saw the departure of Graham Field and Mark Ashton who were replaced by Fred Kelly (drums) and Ced Curtis on guitar. Instrumentally these guys were excellent with very much an original develop sound and approach.

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Posted Monday, August 30, 2004

Review by hdfisch
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3 stars "Epic Forest" had been RB's third album and the first one after Field and Ashton left the band. Actually its title was promising more than this record could finally deliver. Gone were the Hammond-drenched sound from their first two releases reminding much of Procol Harum making place for a more guitar-based singer/songwriter style with the inclusion of some groovy and funky rhythms at times. Though being quite nice to listen to most of the songs on here cannot really fascinate me any longer I've to say. Far from being original let alone to be considered really progressive in the real sense since during those days numerous bands played stuff similar to that they sounded here at times a bit like Grand Funk or at others like a more rocking CSNY, especially in the first three songs. Nonetheless even if this album wasn't that much "real Prog" anymore compared to the two previous one it was an excellent one if considered more a standard pop/rock one with a couple of fine songs like the title track, "Turning The Lights Out", "Her darkest hours" , "Turn It All Around" or the great long-track "You're Lost". Overall this one could be still a nice addition for a Prog collection but not really an essential one what I doubt to be for this band in general I'm afraid to say. IMHO Rare Bird can be rather considered like Procol and Wishbone another quite fine group more in the Prog-Related or Proto-Prog mold.

Not really rare, but very good rock music in a slightly progressive vein and worth 3,5 stars I would say!

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Posted Saturday, November 25, 2006

Review by mystic fred
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3 stars An Epic change.

"Epic Forest" shows a change in label to Polydor and a complete change in musical direction for the band - a more some say up-to- date sound for 1973; slightly pop/jazz-funk but retaining their clever song writing and classic Rare Bird keyboard sounds and signatures, and the familiar Steve Gould vocals. The album also saw a change in personnel with Graham Field and Mark Ashton gone, and bringing in Fred Kelly on drums, Paul Holland and Paul Karas on bass/percussion/vocals and Ced Curtis on lead guitar. The album also shows an improvement in sound quality from the Charisma albums.

The songs are very good but there is little here to interest the hard core Prog fan, though there are some interesting moments as on the rather gloomy, atmospheric "Her Darkest Hour". My original LP came with a bonus record, a 7" EP containing the songs "Roadside Welcome", "Four Grey Walls" and "You're Lost", these tracks are still to be found on the reissued CD on Red Fox Records which also contains "Devil's High Concern", a non-LP 'B' side of "Sympathy" from 1970, "Sympathy single version" and "What You Want to Know" from the LP "As Your Mind Flies By".

The first song "Baby Listen" is a funk-style groove with a very heavy bass line, an acoustic guitar softly introducing "Hey Man" which contains a very catchy chorus, the lead guitar fitting in well with the familiar Rare Bird keyboard phrases. "House in the City" is a slower number, the title track "Epic Forest" featuring a catchy guitar riff and familiar Rare Bird signature keyboard solos and phrases. Side 2 kicks in with "Turning the Lights Out" , an excellent rocker with a strong bass line and some catchy riffs, about the ending of a relationship, "you're turning the lights out on me.." ...which brings back memories for me as I was going through a similar situation in 1973....being dumped from a very great height! The next song "Her Darkest Hour" is a beautifully gloomy ballad, laden with acoustic guitars, one of the best tracks on the album about guilt - very atmospheric, the mood continues with "Fears of the Night", a very slow moody song followed by "Turn It All Around", a slow intro builds to a very strong riff in the chorus. "Title No.1 Again (Birdman)" , a jazzy American funk-style jam. The bonus tracks may have been out-takes left over from the main group of songs included on the main album, are good but unremarkable, "Four Grey Walls" being the best of these.

Though the band had strayed from the Prog path somewhat on this album, the songs remain excellent pop/rock songs and the musicianship and sound quality of the recording is stunning, remains one of my all time favourite albums and would recommend it for those reasons, but would not really satisfy the hard core Prog fan.

Music rating 5, Prog rating 3.5.

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Review by ZowieZiggy
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2 stars This was really a deception after the very good "As Your Mind Files".

The prog sound has left. Still, the title track shows some great beat but the music is more soul/funk oriented (maybe a bit too much to be honest). Compositions as "Hey man" are solid, : great vocals (but sweeter than before), good beat and catchy melody. One of the most pop-oriented of the band so far.

The first "Press Next" T type of song is the syrupy and useless "House In City". Some sort of a poor soul ballad. But with no soul at all if you see what I mean.

It is immediately followed by the best number and epic song."Epic Forest" of course. Not "Epping." but still an excellent song. Great beat, theme changes, rocking guitar sounds, strong and powerful vocals. In one word : the best one out here. Somewhat different from the average mood of this album, and therefore very much welcome of course. The first highlight (and the last one as well, unfortunately).

Unless you are into funky ("Turning The Lights Out"), which is absolutely not my case, you won't digest this one (especially the prog fans). While prolonging your experience, you really should fear "Fear Of The Night" which is the poorest song from this album.

To be honest, a song as "Turn it all around", while totally out of their style is quite good. A solid rocking beat, far from their great prog work but still good. The closing "Title No. 1 again" ends up on an excellent guitar work which is totally opposite from their original sound, but really great during the secong half.

This album was a true deception. I wouldn't rate it more than two stars because it holds two (or three) songs above average.

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Review by SouthSideoftheSky
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3 stars This underrated album is so different from previous albums by the band, that a name change would have been appropriate. Then maybe the fans and other listeners would have been a lot more forgiving concerning the radical change of direction. Such changes are always bound to make some fans into detractors.

While the previous albums by Rare Bird where closer to Emerson Lake & Palmer in spirit, Epic Forrest is closer to Wishbone Ash! Indeed, I would strongly recommend this album to fans of Wishbone Ash. Epic Forrest is about as progressive (and about as good!) as Wishbone Ash's Argus. While similar to Argus in some respects, Epic Forrest has a fuller sound with piano (both electric and regular) and organ (Hammond and Farfisa). The keyboard work is hardly very flashy, but the pianos and organs really make the sound a bit richer and fuller.

The song writing, however, takes on a distinct American feel on most of the tracks. Sometimes they are close to Crosby, Stills & Nash! This is especially apparent on the song Hey Man which is pure American Folk rock. So from keyboard driven Prog to American style Folk rock is quite a step! But the first three songs can be deceptive. The nine minute title track offers some nice progressive touches in terms of tempo changes and instrumental work out. This might not be too impressive, but they somehow manage to keep even the longer tracks interesting throughout. It is a quite unique blend of styles; guitar driven Hard rock, some slight Blues and Jazz influences, American Folk and Psychedelic rock! The melodies are really sweet and the vocal harmonies are lovely.

The album is varied, with softer acoustic ballads sitting side by side with the longer more Psychedelic rockers. The ballad Her Darkest Hour is really good. Another favourite is the Title No. 1 again (Birdman). (The three bonus tracks are also nice).

I find much to like here, and as it turns out, even though there is no question about the earlier albums being more Prog as we know it, this album has more lasting impact on me than the earlier albums. This is hardly anything that will blow the Proghead away, but if you come into this with a clear mind, and don't dislike the idea of mixing American Folk and Psychedelic flavoured rock, you might enjoy this one too. But if you expect another As Your Mind Flies By, you better stay away!

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2 stars After Rare Bird's 'As Your Mind Flies By', this album is a disapointment. AYMFB was a masterpiece of prog but 'Epic Forest' is not an epic at all; I don't even consider it being progressive. It's more like Crosby Stills & Nash. Nice melodies sung OK but that's it. The only track that reminds o ... (read more)

Report this review (#63689) | Posted by pirkka | Sunday, January 08, 2006 | Review Permanlink

5 stars For me it was a great surprise, that Rare Bird's musicians were able to product so great piece of prog-rock after "As your mind flies by"! That album is a proof that progressive rock songs could be interesting even if they are short... "Epic forest" is very beautiful album, with a lot of org ... (read more)

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