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A Silver Mt. Zion

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Studio Album, released in 2005

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1. God Bless Our Dead Marines (11:44)
2. Mountains Made Of Steam (9:28)
3. Horses In The Sky (6:39)
4. Teddy Roosevelt's Guns (9:45)
5. Hang On To Each Other (6:38)
6. Ring Them Bells (Freedom Has Come And Gone) (13:58)

Total Time: 58:12

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Line-up / Musicians

- Efrim Menuck / guitar, vocals, piano
- Thierry Amar / bass
- Sophie Trudeau / violin
- Jessica Moss / violin
- Rebecca Foon / cello
- Ian Ilavsky / guitar

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CD Constellation #33 (2005)
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Review by Hangedman
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3 stars From a year of fantastic albums comes a mediocre release from a usually great band. There are two big problems with it. 1 - essentially the same theme that the band always has; exaggerated socialist ramblings. 2 - the focus is the vocals.... and Efrim is a terrible singer. Less powerful buildups, more intentionally childish often annoying lyrics. On earlier releases the vocals always sounded desperate and frightened, they lose those qualities and just become grating on the ears. Efrim does the equivalent to running his fingernails along a chalkboard for the most part.

Now to focus on the positive sides of the album. The almost choir like backup vocals add an interesting dimension to the music, but not enough to redeem the other vocal failings. Fortunately for A Silver Mt. Zion there is still a heavy leaning on my favorite aspect of previous efforts. Strings, I love the string work on it. Very inspired, it manages to salvage an album that otherwise truly does not do it for me at all.

Song wise the album shows a little more of its strength, the track placement and flow could not have been done better with the material. Of the six tracks the strongest is "God Bless Our Dead Marines" a very powerful song, and the vocals don't drown out the brilliant muscianmanship at all, and the vocal section at the end is the only time on the album it works the way it should. Sends shudders through my body, although the rest of the album fails to uphold such a high standard. The Weakest track is "Teddy Roosevelt's Guns" the best way to describe this track is painful. It turns into a magnification of every fault in the album. The vocals drown out the music, which is only used as support anyhow. The lyrics are stupid, trying to voice Efrims opinions on Canadian culture. When it gets past that section, it moves into a headache inducing movement filled with distortion. The song goes over the same few themes musically and never seems to want to end. I skip this song, and believe me I hardly ever skip songs on albums, and when people do it on albums I don't like I get upset. Its skippable in my opinion and that's saying a lot.

Overall the album is listenable however, its hard for such a strong band to not be. You'll find enough in the album to merit listening to it a couple of times. Although it does not have enough holding power to become one of those albums which forever becomes part of your rotation. If your a fan definitely buy it, haven't heard these guys before there is better places to start but this album shouldn't turn you off from the band. It deserves 3 stars. Its disappointing because the band is capable of much better.

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Posted Monday, August 01, 2005

Review by diddy
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3 stars 3.5 Stars actually

Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra and tra-la-la Band plays "Horses in the Sky" is the accurate title of this 2005 release. A Silver Mt. Zion is a sideproject of the canadian 9 piece Godspeed You! Black Emperor. Formerly the band was formed to explore music with a smaller ensemble, to release some own ideas. Meanwhile the former trio is made up of 7 musicians, maybe the reason why the appendix Tra-la-la Band was added.

The boys and girls play their very own version of so called post rock. Sometimes quite electric, wild and agitated but most of the time very acoustic, almost chamber rock like. Unlike GY!BE this release features vocals. Sometimes weird, sometimes doleful and with a touch of Peter Gabriel and Comus here and there. The first song, called God Bless Our Dead Marines, features everything the following songs will reveal. Off-key sounding vocals, melancolic vocals, chamber rock, the post rock typical rising and falling structures and some beautiful melodies. The middle section of the song is just fantastic I've to say. Mountains Made of Steam and Teddy Roosevelt's Guns feature parts reminding me of GY!BE whereas the title song Horses in the Sky is a lugubrious ballad accompanied by acoustic guitar, one of my favorite sons on this album. Parallels to Godspeed basically appear when the electric guitar goes wild to create walls of sound. Hang on to Each Other is a sparely orchestrated piece for several voices, maybe a bit too long for my tastes because the same lyrics are repeated over and over. Another favorite of mine is the last track, Ring Them Bells (Freedom Has Come and Gone), very dark and melancholic. Definitely the one with the strongest parallels to Godspeed.

Horses in the Sky is a good post rock album and definitely worth buying, even though there are definitely better post rock releases. The vocals are not easy to get into, just like the rest of the music but exceptionally the very vocals. If you like post rock, chamber rock or any of the following bands there's no argument against purchasing this album: Explosions in the Sky, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Mogwai, Sigur Rós, Die anarchistische Abendunterhaltung, Comus (!).

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Posted Saturday, August 06, 2005

Review by Sean Trane
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog Folk
2 stars ASMZ's fourth album (if you count the EP) is continuing the trend where they are completely incapable of recording more than one record under the exact same name. What this Tralala thing adds to the general feel is a mystery to me since musically speaking not much differs from preceding record. Actually to say that this album is superfluous is probably the understatement of the month, as the music drags on and on, still with the plaintive vocals, and the repetitive nature of some tracks can actually be irksome. However, the artwork sleeve is more complete and delivers more info than all of their previous albums altogether, but the music is still as obscure as previously, sometimes sounding like poor junkies chanting for their next fix. I do not know if this last remark has any ring of truth in it (hopefully for them not) , but the lack of indication of what to make out of the music is pushing the listener to the wildest ramblings, which is probably the ultimate goal ASMZ is trying to achieve.

The least I can say is that I was already not very convinced by the debut, but with this later effort, I can say that this one appears completely useless to this reviewer's eyes even though there are moments of brilliance here and there

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Posted Wednesday, November 09, 2005

Review by Ricochet
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3 stars Latest in the achievements of Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra and the Tra-La-La Band (yes, that's the proper name alright), Horses In The Sky wears the full characteristics, the omnipresent intentions, the substantial intentions and the chronologic flow consequences and persistence. As, perhaps only by the exception of their most important works, the sonority of Silver Mt. Zion went in a gratitude of vision, still in a less pretentious form of accomplishments. The ideal is the energy of the renown and the brand's monumentality, but - mostly always - discussion could (even in the sense of "being allowed") have been formed - mostly always - as to what is great and what could have been great, what is densely attributed and what is formally motioned, what captivates and what succumbs et caetera. By that, the album can easily be placed in an option's control down the bottom (hate to use the word "lowest"). All I can really tell is that notions are of the abstract fundament and the rules (which aren't rules) are by the vertical principles; little to find eccentrically definitory is to discover; however inside the machine lies some precious details; and that gives to the composition some essential points that worth a listen, worth appreciation, even worth the addiction. That is what to expect.

In a non-conformism that is recognizable (and by that I'm not saying it's not select music appurtenance, actually I'm saying that it is), in the odd melodicism and through the common methods to surprise, to enlighten, to explain, to reveal or to simply play, the composition is very firm, dense, dark colored and of a symbolic orientation. Not to look prototypic all, but things as such presented here have been done, have been done better, have been done wiser. The context is the sole even of attraction (arguable, naturally, on how you like it). The form is malleable entirely towards the interest. The nebulous manifest is open to a response. Hidden is the personal pleasure.

There is a vigorous accent on the vocals and on the tangible chords of the narrative feeling (though it's leit-motif and not spoken words or told fact), but in the same way evolves the instrumental artifact - quite a difference to notice from other albums. Regarding the "lyrics" and the word movement, emotion is superlative and Efrim does art vocal sui generis (this to contradict the voices simply calling him bad singer - after so many occasions, he's really doing something stylistically). There's a pain in his timber, there's a sensibility in his tone, there's full maturity in the desired realization. Regarding the instrumental, it is quite a forceful composition with its uphold moments. From a personal style of lugubrious sound edifications to real exceptions like "godspeedian" climaxed (first one from first piece is amazing!) or intensive deep, profound, cumulated ornamentations. Speaking of special moments, the album's not entirely a force, but the selectiveness brings a gem-like impression. Music is elaborated, on a strong note.

Horses In The Sky is a metaphor, a reality analogy, a phantasmagorical overdone dream, an impossibility, moreover an inaccuracy. For yet another frame, do the artists contemplate, offer to contemplate, demand virulently to be contemplated a view into the unknown, perhaps even in the unwanted. The ideology is rusty and deflagrate, eliminating any casual consideration. It's a visible world of either the cruel reality or the imagined negativism. The tone, cold, unemotional (being emotional), unshaped properly, unavenged naturally, gives scope not from the outside image, but from the heart's vital discontent, where everything is conceived and every theory is convinced as demonstration. And the outside image can just as well be optimistic, fine or undamaged, sunny and clear, warm and intuitively thoughtful, but the voice of shadow wants it trustworthy degrading and virulently admonished. Every ideal is a drama; every feeling is a lamento; upon constant melodicity surpass comes the unresolved sensitive rustle. Seen from the darkness of a basement, the outside image is pointed as something mediocre and something against its nature; decisively it is only the paranoia of an incurable obsession; like so, there lies danger, pain and sadness instead of a too convincing abstinence; there fling guns and threats, instead of silent intentions; there lies the phobia instead of the passionate gesture of help, of smile, of healing hope. It's a situation made worse it's a shout lifted to nobody's hearing. The world is just too old and too sick (both ways of interpretation) to get on working out. Thus horses in the sky will never be seen or heard of. Nihilistically, though everything is divine blend of good and evil, rejected is the satisfaction and forever welcomed is the concern. After the rage and the dark storm comes the extraordinary silence: made defenseless or forced, just the way feared? Installed, in unison and conformism, on one nuance and one chrome is the representation; much to say it isn't But how diverse and how intense can it, ondulatory, movemently, go is quite interesting.

Considerably emotional and illustrative, tempestly relaxed and silently insinuated, effectively glanced and curiously to perceive, Horses In The Sky is a good album in which the essentials go indubitable and the credit can credit acknowledgement viewpoints. Behind all said and all left to say, besides the glitches and the things making your doubt exteriorize and between marginalization and contemplations, the artists do their unbreakable habit of demanding a special look instead of a normal one. A fixed relation desired finished; a reality turned upside-down. Even for a moment. Even for a short chance. Even for that dying breath.

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Posted Tuesday, September 12, 2006

Review by ClemofNazareth
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog Folk Researcher
4 stars Well, if you are a fan of experimental music than you shouldn’t complain when the artists actually experiment, I suppose. And that’s what is going on with this latest release from the Silver Mt. Zion Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious and Tra la la Band with Canadian Mounties, or whatever they’re calling themselves these days.

The use of vocals has been growing with each succeeding album since their debut. On this album there are vocals on every track; in fact, vocals are at the forefront of every track. This is new. Also, the lyrical themes seem to be taking on a more coherent form, although on close reflection there are certainly many subjective layers of interpretation to most of the words.

And Efrim Menuck’s singing seems to have actually improved somewhat. I don’t know if he has taken a cue from a marketing focus group or something (‘though I seriously doubt it), but he appears to be actually making a conscious attempt to focus on articulation and at least keeping within the general scope of the key in which each song is set, so that’s a plus.

Musically this is a considerably better effort than the band’s previous two albums, with complex, layered arrangements that bring the focus back to what made this an interesting band in the first place – the strings, and to a certain extent Menuck’s oddly- constructed guitar riffs as well.

The first few times I heard “God Bless Our Dead Marines” I took it for a generic anti-war song. But I think there’s a bit more to the message than that – the lyrics actually speak rather bitterly to a general attitude of apathy on the part of the mass public, with vignettes about friends lost to drug addiction, suicide, and bad living. The words are bitter, but the music has a certain defiant tone to it that reminds me of some of the post-punk works of social commentators like Ani DiFranco and Jim Carroll. Not the same type of music certainly, but in that vein for sure. The rhythm seems to be somewhat akin to Jewish klezmer music with its ‘oom-pa-pa’ lumbering and stark, moody piano. This is a track that can grow on you over time, but sets the tone for an album that is only vaguely associated with most post-rock music. This is quite a bit closer to indie rock than it is to experimental music.

The pervading theme of “Mountains Made of Steam” just seems to be despair about the general condition of our world from a social awareness standpoint. This has another of those oddly harmonic chorale sections that the band seems to be making a part of their overall sound the past few years, but also includes a rather torrid though brief climax in the middle with cacophonic strings and drums mashing wildly, followed by a long stretch of mumbled vocals and subdued strings that seem to project a sense of resigned acceptance, but not despair. This one has a great mood to it, but is not for those who suffer from clinical depression for sure.

The title track appears to represent a kind of message of cautious hope and a prayer for a safe future to a child, or perhaps a lover. I actually like it when Mt. Zion include acoustic guitar in building the mood of their songs, although this is the only time I can recall that and entire composition is centered around that instrument. This is clearly meant to be a reflective and emotional song, and it hits the mark beautifully.

“Teddy Roosevelt's Guns” is rather weak compared to the rest of the album, but the very slowly-building sonic quality is pure Mile End stuff, and could have belonged to any number of bands out of that family of musicians. There seems to be little real point to the lyrics, or if there is then it is Canuck-centric enough to be los on the general public. But the music is more what we’ve come to expect of Mt Zion – a slowly building but not ever really climaxing string and rhythm arrangement that works better as background mood music than it does on the front-burner of our consciousness.

The lyrics for “Hang on to Each Other” remind me of that old cartoon that shows a frog stuck inside the mouth of a crane who is desperately reaching up with both hands around the crane’s neck trying to choke him. The caption reads “never, ever, ever give up”. That’s the message here. Look up the lyrics, they’re awkwardly inspiring in a post- rock kind of way. The music isn’t anything special since the emphasis is the chanting “hang on to each other” refrain, but this is the song that probably captures the overall social message of Mt. Zion better than any other. There’s nothing progressive about it though – this is yet another composition that pushes the band closer to the more traditional indie genre than it does post-rock, but who’s to quibble?

On “Ring Them Bells (Freedom Has Come and Gone)” the band puts forward some sort of pleading message about all of us just getting along, or focusing on the important things in life, or something with a similarly-focused magnanimous theme. Unfortunately, even though all the lyrics are clear, the message isn’t, so I can’t really rally behind whatever it is the band is trying to rally toward, if anything. Musically this is more of the same, and I suspect there’s a powerful message here, I just don’t get it. That actually makes it an very appropriate ending to this album.

There seems to be something of a theme that runs like a thread through this album, and the message speaks to being alive and aware and probably many other things as well. It’s much too focused and opinionated to fit neatly into the genre this band is generally cast in, but in some ways that’s a good thing since as fans we claim to be interested in musical experimentation. So like I said at the outset, the band has clearly experimented here. And nothing falls flat like it did on their “This is our punk rock…” album, so I would recommend giving this album a try if you are into the Mile End type of bands, experimental music in general, or just feel like getting your blood pressure up for a little while. Four stars.

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Posted Sunday, October 29, 2006

Review by Dim
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5 stars An absolutely infectious album, after one go 'round I was hooked. Beautiful music, beautiful lyrics, and beautiful everything else, a silver mount Zion really proves their genius with this album. Blending haunting vocals, Godspeed strings, and post rock electrics together to create an emotional roller coaster. Going from vulgar hate, to soft laments, mostly about the state of the world, and how terrible it is, you may get the impression that this is a weird punk rock band, and in reality, it kind of is, and though punk rock is one of the most disgusting forms of music out there, very little music has impacted me lyrically as this one.

The songs on this album range from six to thirteen minutes long, all of them filled with Efrims haunting voice and lyrics. Most are driven by a string section, while the guitarists strum away on simple chords with weird effects. If you are into prog music for speed, intensity, and technicality, this is, in no way the band for you. All the songs are at a slow pace, yet build and speed up a bit, but not to the point their former band, Godspeed you! Black emperor would have gone. I think the reason for the lack of more intense music is because this band is a vocal band, one of the few post rock bands who follow this banner, therefore the music... supports... the... vocals... IT EXISTS IN PROGRESSIVE MUSIC... and I love it. I cant really put my finger on whats so great about the music, but there's an eeriness that consumes it that makes it so beautiful, organic, and original.

What sets A silver Mount Zion apart from punk rock bands is that there is a kind of raw emotion there that you will never be able to tap with blinding speeds and nagging vocals. What sets A sliver Mount Zion apart from other post rock outfits is that they're much more frontal with the music, instead of starting out incredibly slow, and build to an ear splitting climax, the music is led by the Efrims intense vocals, and while the guitars are on doing they're own thing with arpeggios and semi sludgy effects, the strings usually mimic the darkness the lyrics are trying to show you. In songs like God Bless our dead marines, and hang on to each other, the message is clear The worlds a mess, and so are we, with wailing and ranting in Efrims ever more unstable voice. Though in songs like Horses in the sky and and ring them bells of freedom, the same message is still being sung, but in a much more bleak and desperate sound, with mumbled and extremely sad vocals, these songs are the ones that really get my emotions going, and at the end of the last song, you feel absolutely heartbroken by what Efrims said, and you may even feel convinced by what he's said.

Explaining this album is near impossible, and I hope what I've written will possibly spark your interest in this band. This outfit, and especially this album are extremely underrated, and that is an understatement worthy of a trophy. This music is just powerful, and shows you dont need to be a technical wizard to make impacting and mind blowing music. Really this album actually got me to listen and understand the lyrics, something a quit doing since I started listening to Yes, and lets be serious, lyrics are not very good in prog music, but this band can pull out some of the most emotive lyrics you may ever hear. And like I said earlier, this group is not for everyone, hell, it probably isn't for some of the more hardcore fans of Godspeed you! Black emperor, but for those of you looking for some extremely emotional, and gut wrenching music, I recommend this album all the way. 5 stars!

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Posted Thursday, February 28, 2008

Review by Prog-jester
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5 stars I've always thought of ZIONs as GY!BE's offshot, nothing more. Hence I found their debut rather enjoyable (it sounded like LYSFLATH b-sides if there could have been ones!), but the farther I go the least satisfying material I heard. Blank and annoying apocalyptic preaching with some good music on the backs. Seriously, I'd rather make a compilation from ZIONs' 2001-2004 albums, because they had less than an hour of great material from those years. When I heard of 2005' release called 'Horses in the Sky', I've checked ratings and thought like uh, even worse. I'm glad to say I've been self-fooled! A friend of mine shared this CD with me saying that it's their best and for him ZIONs' mission was to create exactly this one album. One hour later since I've heard (for the first time) opening bass notes and crooked Efrim's voice I was completely agree, that 'Horses...' is indeed their best.

The album is divided into two sides, each having a 3-part epic ('God Bless...' and 'Ring them Bells'), an acoustic (eponymous one and 'Hang on to each other') and a track that has both features ('Mountains...' and '...Guns'). Mirroring each other, both sides sound absolutely stunning, and while I was a bit cold towards acoustics at first, now I love them sincerely. 'God Bless Our Dead Marines' has wonderful mid-part with one of the strongest lyrics I ever heard from Efrim, and breath-taking closing sing-along coda (''when the world is sick...''). 'Mountains made of Steam' is my second fave, with heart- breaking back-voices and stunning climax. Closing 'Ring them Bells (Freedom has come and gone)' also features some mindblowing moments (mid-climax and coda especially). The band has immensely matured in songwriting and arranging, each song and movement sound fresh and carry the special mood of the record, the melancholy that you can FEEL or even TOUCH by yourself. This is simply awesome.

Few words about Efrim's singing. Yes, it's out-of-tune, unprofessional and more like weeping. On the other side, can you imagine ANY OTHER KIND OF VOCALS HERE? James La Brie? Peter Hammil? Tarja Turunen? C'mon, it's perfect for ZIONs, and dare I say 'Horses...' is simply the best album in Post- Rock-with-vocals imaginary sub-genre, and one of the best in whole Post-Rock for sure. Highly recommended!!!

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Posted Sunday, March 09, 2008

Review by Warthur
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5 stars Horses In the Sky finds A Silver Mt. Zion succeeding at the experiment they'd been working towards over their last few albums, which was to create a song-oriented version of the fragile, ramshackle post-rock sound cooked up by the Godspeed You Black Emperor/Silver Mt. Zion collective. In particular, they prove to have a knack for writing incredibly catchy songs about completely depressing things - I can't help but sing along to the "I love my dog and she loves me" section of God Bless Our Dead Marines, for instance. On the whole, it's a very successful breakout into uncharted territory for the band.

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5 stars What a treat, this album is. I first heard A Silver Mt. Zion (now a much larger name) on their debut album. Horses In The Sky was my next listen. This album is very emotional with help from Efrim Menuck's vocals which I love and I find fit the mood of the album perfectly. The lyrics on this ... (read more)

Report this review (#282102) | Posted by Leo J. | Saturday, May 15, 2010 | Review Permanlink

4 stars Nevermind those "he's a terrible singer" comments regarding this album. He is singing that way for a reason; a very mellow and perhaps painfull one. In terms of theme, if a band needs to use music as a vehicle for political statements; so be it; the main focus here is still music; good and wel ... (read more)

Report this review (#84967) | Posted by cuncuna | Thursday, July 27, 2006 | Review Permanlink

4 stars I am not one to get caught up in classification of genres etc. I do own the complete Godspeed You Black Emperor, Sigur Ros & Mogwai collection, and it seems that the industry wants to group these bands together, so I guess I'm in a pretty good position to draw comparison between Silver Mt Zio ... (read more)

Report this review (#60369) | Posted by | Thursday, December 15, 2005 | Review Permanlink

4 stars Honestly, I can't imagine how this album is getting such low reviews. This album, representing the newest effort by seasoned post-rockers A Silver Mt. Zion, contains long, beautiful, shifting arrangements, while having the bollocks to attempt vocals in a usually vocal-less genre. I will agre ... (read more)

Report this review (#57028) | Posted by | Saturday, November 19, 2005 | Review Permanlink

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