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DO MAKE SAY THINK are a post rock/experimental group from Toronto who have many progressive and psychadelic elements and influences. DO MAKE SAY THINK consists of Charles Spearin, Justin Small, James Payment, Ohad Benchetrit, Jason MacKenzie and Dave Mitchell. DO MAKE SAY THINK are similar to other Canadian post rock bands such as GODSPEED YOU BLACK EMPEROR! and A SILVER MT ZION and are on Constellation Records along with them.

Similarly to these bands and other post rock bands, they have lengthy instrumentals that combine elements of prog and are generally slow building compared to other rock acts. Their best releases are their debut "Do Make Say Think" and their latest album, "Winter Hymn Country Hymn Secret Hymn".

DO MAKE SAY THINK will go mostly go down well with fans of GODSPEED YOU BLACK EMPEROR! and A SILVER MT ZION, but will also appeal to fans of some of the other post rock bands in the archives.


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Do Make Say Think should be added to Prog Archives because they are one of the leading post rock bands. They also have lengthy compositions that have elements and influences from Krautrock and Psychadelia/Space Rock. They also compare greatly with bands like GODSPEED YOU BLACK EMPEROR! and A SILVER MT ZION.

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2.70 | 11 ratings
Do Make Say Think
1997
3.70 | 13 ratings
Goodbye Enemy Airship The Landlord Is Dead
2000
3.40 | 13 ratings
& Yet & Yet
2002
3.20 | 14 ratings
Winter Hymn Country Hymn Secret Hymn
2003
3.68 | 52 ratings
You, You're A History In Rust
2007
3.70 | 35 ratings
Other Truths
2009

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Besides
1999
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The Whole Story Of Glory
2008

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 You, You're A History In Rust by DO MAKE SAY THINK album cover Studio Album, 2007
3.68 | 52 ratings

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You, You're A History In Rust
Do Make Say Think Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Warthur
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3 stars Do Make Say Think tend to be overshadowed a lot by their fellow Canadian post-rockers in Godspeed You Black Emperor (and its many any varied side projects such as A Silver Mt Zion), and to be honest, whilst I've enjoyed some of their albums efforts like You, You're a History In Rust don't really thrill me. Playing in a jazzier style than Godspeed but with the same lo-fi, threadbare aesthetic, the band play a bit more loosely and freely, with less structure, and also tend to meander a little more. With a bit more focus, they can do well, as can be heard on the earlier album Goodbye Enemy Airship, but here they just sound like lukewarm post-rock dabblers.

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 Goodbye Enemy Airship The Landlord Is Dead by DO MAKE SAY THINK album cover Studio Album, 2000
3.70 | 13 ratings

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Goodbye Enemy Airship The Landlord Is Dead
Do Make Say Think Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Warthur
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4 stars Do Make Say Think play a style of post-rock somewhere between that of Tortoise and their Constellation stablemates in Godspeed You Black Emperor. Like Godspeed, they embrace a "found audio" aesthetic wherein some of the music is derived from field recordings (or recordings deliberately designed to sound like field recoridngs), but they also include more complex, jazzy playing reminiscent of Tortoise's Millions Now Living Will Never Die album. Goodbye Enemy Airship is therefore an album which bridges the gap between two differing schools of post-rock, and will be of interest to most fans of the genre, particularly those fond of the Constellation stable's DIY aesthetic.

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 Winter Hymn Country Hymn Secret Hymn by DO MAKE SAY THINK album cover Studio Album, 2003
3.20 | 14 ratings

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Winter Hymn Country Hymn Secret Hymn
Do Make Say Think Post Rock/Math rock

Review by zravkapt
Special Collaborator Post/Math Rock Team

4 stars The fourth album from this Toronto band but the first I have heard in full, only hearing a couple of songs from other albums. Supposedly these guys were influenced by Tortoise, but they generally sound like a happier version of fellow Canadians GYBE and A Silver Mt Zion. DMST use the typical guitars-bass-drums but also make good use of keyboards and trumpet as well.

You can listen to the first song "Frederica" here on PA. It's the stand out song, not that the other songs are no good, just not as good as this is. This has a really nice bass sound at first, it sounds acoustic but I don't think it is. Guitars play repeated melodies until about 1 1/2 minutes, then some jazzy drumming comes in and everything else resumes again. Later the bassline and guitar playing changes but the drums stay the same...actually getting faster. Some wind or string instrument (possibly altered) sounds start to dominate. After 6 minutes is a really cool distorted bass sound, I love how the music builds towards a crescendo here. The whole song mellows out for awhile and gets more loose. Eventually it builds up to another crescendo with more distorted bass. The opening guitar melodies are reprised at the end.

"Auberge le Mouton Noir" has an interesting waltz-type rhythm along with a marching snare. Very typical post-rock guitar playing. In the middle gets a more punk style beat before switching to a more jazzy style. Cool sounds from some altered instrument before 5 minutes. "Outer, Inner & Secret" starts off with some light jazzy drums. A walking bassline, some minimalistic guitars and some atmospheric keyboard sounds. Starting around 4 minutes several cresendos are built up but don't reach their climax. Great drumming after 5 minutes. Some GYBE like guitar sounds for awhile. More false crescendos at the end.

"Ontario Plates" is a jazzy song with some nice trumpet. Gets more folky and electronic about halfway. Ends very celebratory sounding. "Horns Of A Rabbit" is a stand out track. Love the synth bass sound here. Great Radiohead style drumbeat. Some good melodic guitar in places. Over halfway gets more energenic. I love the synth sounds at the beginning of "Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!" All the other instruments are loose and random until acoustic guitar comes in. The music keeps stopping then resuming. After 3 minutes goes into a great country sounding part (post-country?). Lots of synth effects and twangy guitar. Some "ahh" type harmony vocals later before the drummer puts emphasis on the bass drum. More country style guitar.

Throughout the album you hear synthetic raindrop sounds at the end and beginning of most songs. These guys are usually instrumental. Nothing totally original but enjoyable nonetheless. I don't think they have any real weak moments, just that their strongest moments are few and far between. I would rate this 3.5 but I'll bump it up to 4 stars.

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 Other Truths by DO MAKE SAY THINK album cover Studio Album, 2009
3.70 | 35 ratings

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Other Truths
Do Make Say Think Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Neurotarkus

4 stars Other Truths is my first DMST experience, and I certainly found it to be a good one, as they combine the peaceful and energetic sides of post-rock very well. There's not really much I can say about the album, except that it is very well-made and stays interesting throughout. However, one thing that impresses me about Other Truths is that while they use the crescendo->climax theory of post rock, they don't have boring, unnecessary quiet parts like GYBE, and instead keep the listener's attention throughout without testing his or her patience. Certainly recommended to fans of good instrumental music, especially in the post-rock vein. Four stars for an excellent effort.

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Other Truths
Do Make Say Think Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk

3 stars 3.5 stars really

Latest album from the Toronto combo, one that comes with agreat urban artwork, and sees some brass players as guests. I don't know if it's recent or not, but McKenzie is not part of the line-up that remains otherwise uncjanged .Just four tracks on this album and funnily enough all for are named after the four words of the band's name. Not that the music behind each word of their ensemble's name will tell you more about their philosophy, because this was set a long time ago, with their debut album.

Musically, we're still very strongly in the realm of the Constellation?GYBE! soundscapes, but DMST does make it difference: some of these tracks are quite fast, they are also very brass-y and they're not depressive (even if I wouldn't go as far as saying that these guys make frivolous and happy tunes), so those alone should indeed. The music is still very ambient, made from slow build-ups and crescendoing until they reach a climax and slowly decrease. The major difference here is the brass instruments underlining some of the more dramatic moments but bringing an upbeat to the music. Nothing new under the sun; and this album won't stand out in your post rock shelves, like a Tortoise or a Tarentel album might

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 You, You're A History In Rust by DO MAKE SAY THINK album cover Studio Album, 2007
3.68 | 52 ratings

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You, You're A History In Rust
Do Make Say Think Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Cesar Inca
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

4 stars Having discovered them just recently after the sense of curiosity that was born in my mind when the relese of their 2009 album was announced, Do Make Say Think has already made a big impression on me. This Canadian post-rock act can certainly create exciting music with their micture of muscular drive and tecturial developments. No wonder that they are so highly praised usually in the current post-rock cirlces. Now it is my time to review their penultimate effort "You, You're A History In Rust", which I widely recommend as the perfect entrance for the non-initiated. The opener 'Bound To Be That Way' starts with a soft swing based on jazzy cadences, and then, an even softer set of guitar chords sets in to anticipate the elaboration of the main body, which turns out to be a simple yet powerfully evocative journey of meditative vibrations. 'A With Living' states a pulsating motion that heavily relies on the tribal drumming that installs itself beneath the mysterious arpeggios on the dual acoustic guitars. The warmth climax that gradually emerges from there until the 5 minute mark is properly fed by the vocal interventions. The track's second and final part revives the initial melancholy. It is in track no. 3, 'The Universe!', that the DMST guys start to frontally show their rocking facet, incorporating a stoner-like mood into the intense basic motifs that go flowing by. The emrgence of some cosmic ornaments serves as a neurotic resource from which a captivating, uneasy crescendo is built up by the ensemble. 'A Tender History In Rust' has an intro full of eerie tonalities, notably inspired in the musique concrete trend, before the main body shifts toward a mysterious amalgam of acoustic guitars, vibraphone, alleatory percussions, plus sweet string & horn arrangements. This unexpected shift toward some sort of avant-garde country allows the listenerto comprehend the not-so-usual bucolic aspect of DMST. 'Herstory Of Glory' brings out the GYBE! influence in full swing: a special mention goes to the careful treatment of the simplistic harmonic basis on an 11/8 tempo through multiple guitar and violin layers. This is really plethoric, but again, we must remember that the album has to go on, and so, 'You, You're Awesome' moves into introverted realms (not lacking energy at all, let's make it clear), bringing back the country-related colorfulness we had found earlier in 'A Tender History In Rust'. 'Executioner Blues' reintroduces the featured use of electric guitars and enthusiastic rhythms, but it is quite evident that the airs of mystery and melancholy prevail - I find this piece ver yrelated to the Indie spirit of 'A With Living'. After a spectacular climax near the end, the ethereal coda resumes the abundant nostalgia in a cohesive fashion. The album's last 4 minutes are occupied by 'In Mind', a soft piece that starts with ample room for the acoustic guitars, with the banjo, violins and synth layers adding extra textures little by little. The angelic chorale seems to announce the serene arrival of the first visions of sunlight at dawn, a new day dawning after an evening and night of melancholy. With this mental image of mine, I finish this review for an album that I regard as excellent. Do Make Say Think has been a great discovery for me in 2009, indeed.

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Other Truths
Do Make Say Think Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Prog-jester
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4 stars While other Post-Rock bands are still trying to play Math-Rock, Metal or Electronica (or blend this altogether) to attract hipsters' attention and get a line in Pitchfork, genre's veterans from DO MAKE SAY THINK just do what they're good at: playing Music. Well-structured and composed, it has feelings and atmosphere, and these two factors are usually forgotten by numerous newbies of the genre. Who needs endless avantgarde experimentations, when you can't write a melody one can whistle along? Like fellow Canadians from BELL ORCHESTRE, DMST managed to release one of the most fresh-sounding and captivating albums of 2009 for a genre which is thought to be stagnant for at least recent 5 years. Bravo and recommended!

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Do Make Say Think Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Cesar Inca
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4 stars Being a band that I've just been getting acquainted with for the last two months, I must confess that Canadian post-rock outfit Do Make Say Think has caused a very good impression on me ? their 2009 release "Other Truths" is a powerful indication of the sort of refreshment (or one of sundry possible sorts) that the post-rock genre needs to go on in a healthy state. Some fans and connoisseurs have praised this band as a current leader of the most recent developments in the post-rock area, and I clearly see their point. With a repertoire of four tracks that doesn't get to the 45 minute mark, "Do Make Say Think" makes an excellent statement of suggestive elaborations ? in some passages, similarities with Tortoise, Isis or the legendary Godspeed You Black Emperor! can be traced, but none of these references scares away the Muses that drive this ensemble's originality. The opening sequence of 'Do' brings a gentle mood of guitar, trumpet and sax, fluidly intertwined with an aim on the construction of the first main body, which happens to be dynamic and ethereal simultaneously. The agile rhythm section allows the whole instrumentation to convey contemplation and enthusiasm equally. Once this section ends, things shift toward a different landscape, one drawn with shades of languid density. At one point, some industrial ornaments settle in before the effective abrupt ending. A good starter, indeed, but there's still more room for exciting music, as 'Make' comes to show immediately after. 'Make' offers, at first, a slightly more constrained expressiveness, with a slower tempo bathed in jazzy cascades. Once the track gets to a climatic point, a melancholic intensity fills the room with a combination of brightness and grayness, preserving the climax in a solid manner. Once this continuing climax ends, the minimalistic coda arrives to wrap things up in a most spacey way. 'Say' starts on a repetitive note, as if stating the soundtrack to a scene in which a character is carefully leaving his hiding place. It won't be long before a controlled storm of rocking energy emerges in a polished alternation of suave nuances and powerful moods ? the dual guitars are focused on their usual business of faithfully complementing each other, and in this case, the sonic result is particularly captivating. The final section retakes the opening motif with an emphasized languidness, ultimately leading to a lovely choral arrangement. 'Think' ends the album with an exclusive focus on the eerie aspects that had already been present in 'Make' and 'Say', still reinforcing the jazzy element in the basic cadences. The litany character that this track seems to emphasize so purposely makes it perfect to complete the listening experience with a reflective intention ? a lovely way to finalize the experience with an album like this. In conclusion, DMST has delivered an excellent item for this year 2009.

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Do Make Say Think Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Mellotron Storm
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3 stars Everytime I read the title of this album it makes me smile. In the liner notes they thank GODSPEED YOU ! BLACK EMPEROR and FLY PAN AM among others.This band is from Toronto and incorporate sax and trumpet into their all instrumental Post-Rock styled music. I found this album to be a difficult listen at times, it requires some patience. Interesting that 5 of the 7 tracks were recorded up near Port Hope, Ontario in a barn over a long weekend in August.

"When Day Chokes The Night" opens with a slowly played guitar melody for over 3 1/2 minutes. It's joined by the bass after 2 minutes.The guitar melody stops then restarts after 4 minutes with brass and bass. It gets pretty intense after 6 minutes and then it calms right down to end as it began with that slowly played guitar. Cool song. "Minman" is mellow to start out without much going on. We get a beat before 2 1/2 minutes and a fuller sound 5 minutes in. The guitar is prominant late. "The Landlord Is Dead" is kind of ominous early with some nice bass. I like it. Brass comes in then a fuller and better sound at 3 minutes. The guitar starts to rip it up. Nice. It settles down to end it.

"The Apartment Song" is laid back with gentle guitar and light drums.There is a brief outbreak after 1 1/2 minutes. "All Of This Is True" opens with drums before guitar joins in with horns. It builds to a climax 2 minutes in then calms right down. Some samples later. "Bruce E Kinesis" features a good beat until 2 minutes in when organ takes over. Drums are back before 3 minutes. "Goodbye Enemy Airship" is very mellow with horns and light drums. The drums do get louder and it kicks in before 5 minutes to a fuller sound. It's fairly repetitive to the end. Good song though.

3.5 stars although I feel I need to keep listening to see if it will grow on me more.

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 You, You're A History In Rust by DO MAKE SAY THINK album cover Studio Album, 2007
3.68 | 52 ratings

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You, You're A History In Rust
Do Make Say Think Post Rock/Math rock

Review by shentile

5 stars Very experimental in their timbre and proggy in their delivery. this instrumental post rock band is in my opinion different from all the rest. out their on their own still making albums that are worth the money. i recently bought what in my opinion could be their weakest effort winter hymm... and was slightly dissapointed but not upset about spending the money because there's still great music there to relish just not a complete album. this album straightens that out and in my opinion is their best so far.

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