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Eclectic Prog • Sweden


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Beardfish were formed in 2000 by guitarist David Zackrisson and singer, guitarist, keyboardist Rikard Sjöblom. The group includes bassist Robert Hansen and drummer Magnus Östgren. The first album was recorded as a quintet with Stefan Aronsson on keyboards and flute. Their primary influences are a diverse range of Zappa, King Crimson, and Gentle Giant.

To date they have released two albums, both are highly recommended. The first 'Från En Plats Du Ej Kan Se...' runs the gammet from great epics, brash hard prog, with some tasty flute and mellotron thrown in. Their second album The Sane Day is a more ambitious outing.. this time down to a four piece with Rikard taking keyboard duties. A 'double' album released 2005 that might be seen a conceptual, though they deny it. The growth in the group musically is apparent, and is a good album

The group should be checked out by anyone looking for a good solid modern Art Rock group. If you have the chance.. see this group live. Ask anyone in attendance in Chapel Hill on ProgDay06, they stole the show. They will grab you and not let go. Strongly recomended.



Why this artist must be listed in www.progarchives.com :
strong modern Art Rock group from Sweden. Unquestionably prog.. the 'star' the of ProgDay06 show. Two great prog albums released so far at time of addtion.



Discography:
Från En Plats Du Ej Kan Se...(2003 - Studio)
The Sane Day ( 2005 - Studio)
Sleeping In Traffic Part 1 (2007)
Sleeping In Traffic Part 2 (2008)

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3.60 | 129 ratings
Från En Plats Du Ej Kan Se
2003
4.00 | 200 ratings
The Sane Day
2006
4.04 | 386 ratings
Sleeping In Traffic: Part One
2007
4.20 | 566 ratings
Sleeping In Traffic: Part Two
2008
3.95 | 373 ratings
Destined Solitaire
2009
3.97 | 498 ratings
Mammoth
2011
3.87 | 344 ratings
The Void
2012
3.99 | 196 ratings
+4626 - Comfortzone
2015

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 Sleeping In Traffic: Part One by BEARDFISH album cover Studio Album, 2007
4.04 | 386 ratings

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Sleeping In Traffic: Part One
Beardfish Eclectic Prog

Review by apps79
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3 stars ''The sane day'' was over and ''Sleeping in traffic pt.1'' was the new work in progress for Beardfish.No time lost, they entered the studio immediately after the second album and by the summer of 2006 most of the work was complete.It was the same time, when they received an invitation to play at the ProgDay festival in Chapel Hill, so they did and upon their return they added a last cut to the tracklist.Some labels show significant interest in singing the band, eventually Inside Out was the one to welcome them in its roster and the third work of the band was released in May 2007.

You should pretty much forget about a band trying to perform along the lines of SPOCK'S BEARD, the only remainings from their similarities with the Americans were some quirky but a bit sloppy Pop sensibilities.The brand new Beardfish is more an affair between ethereal vocal Psych/Art Rock and dramatic, complex Heavy Prog with punchy guitars and keyboards, now they were definitely closer to compatriots ANEKDOTEN than SPOCK'S BEARD due to the heavy bass lines and syncopated rhythms, but do not expect some dominant Mellotron or dark musicianship, Beardfish'es music always bursts a romantic attitude despite the attacking instrumental parts and the complicated textures.The softer parts remind me of the old Canterbury scene and the first few steps of CARAVAN and THE SOFT MACHINE to a lesser extent, warm electric piano, poppy tunes, omnipresent Hammond organ and a bit of synths with tempo variations and sweet vocal arrangements.The more powerful moments have something from the music of KING CRIMSON and GENTLE GIANT, impressive instrumental interactions, jazzy overtones, heavier moments and tricky twists and turns with both analog and modern keyboard lines.In case you wonder where the GENESIS and YES' aspirations have gone, I guess you can still find some snippets of light symphonic tunes and more melodious themes in the album, but mostly as an exception to the rule, which is now revisiting complex 70's Prog and Canterbury Psychedelia under a modern wagon.

Satisfying album from the start to the very end.After listening to it several times I found it incredibly well-composed, still a certain feel of a masterpiece work was missing.Anyway, a very eclectic progressive album, I can't see anyone not finding something to like in here.Strongly recommended...3.5 stars.

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 +4626 - Comfortzone by BEARDFISH album cover Studio Album, 2015
3.99 | 196 ratings

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+4626 - Comfortzone
Beardfish Eclectic Prog

Review by javajeff

5 stars For a group that has a catalog of great albums, this may be their best. This journey just flows from start to finish, and I have not stopped listening to it since the release. I am a Beardfish fan, and I love everything they have ever done. With that being said, this album is a masterpiece. If you did not like the heavier Void album, this album is a trip back to their roots. I love the entire album start to finish, but if I had to pick stand out tracks, this would be my choice: Hold On, Comfort Zone, Ode to the Rock 'N' Roller, and The One Inside Part 3: Relief. If you only pick up one album this year, you cannot go wrong with +4626 - Comfortzone. It is stellar!

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 +4626 - Comfortzone by BEARDFISH album cover Studio Album, 2015
3.99 | 196 ratings

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+4626 - Comfortzone
Beardfish Eclectic Prog

Review by Progrussia

3 stars What I've always liked about Beardfish is that they often forgo the symphonic overkill in favor of good old (but long and sometimes loud) soul-infused rock'n'roll. A basic sound - two guitars, bass, drums and a moog or an organ joining here and there. All crystally clear and audible in the mix, which I much prefer to a wall of sound.

Beardfish have always been crowd-pleasers, and while there is much here to sing along to (The One Inside main theme, the monstrously groovy sections of Hold and Love Story), the songs are often quite tricky, changing and jam-like.

And it's sad and angry Beardfish. No erstwhile polkas and jazzes in the Comfort Zone. Just a trace of the familiar beardfishy quirkiness on Ode to the Rock'n'Roller. A part of me misses the old quirky Beardfish.

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 +4626 - Comfortzone by BEARDFISH album cover Studio Album, 2015
3.99 | 196 ratings

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+4626 - Comfortzone
Beardfish Eclectic Prog

Review by AdaCalegorn

3 stars +4626-Comfortzone

I've been a Beardfish fanboy since I've meet them on 2007. Through all this time the communion and understanding of the records and styles have been a happy relationship of great magical records (some more than others). But this one is just O.K.

Don't misunderstand me, is an actual really good job, conceptually is even better than the later 'The Void'; is just that there's a lack of magic. The sound is more young-adult oriented, which made the cohesion a little bit harder to receive.

True, there are wonderful moments since the very beginning with a symphonic introduction of the album concept, followed by a brighter and Yes-esque 'Hold On' ―even the name―. The main piece has too many non-prog elements; the voice has at times a softer tune, still, surprisingly, works very nice, balancing modern colors with the actual progressive harmony all over the road. 'Can You See Me Now?' along with 'King' are the real slackers here. The first one is pretty slow and plain while the later, if a little more vibrant is still plain.

Then the second part, sort-of-interlude, of 'The One Inside' revives atmosphere with a magnificent acoustic guitar in an almost mid-west folk style, working as a continuity as a separation among sections. Remaining onto the harsh mood, there is nice blend in 'Daughter/Whore' some kind a filler, but a good filler after all.

Epicness have to be named 'If We Must Be Apart (A Love Story Continued)' and here is what elevates the whole album; a strong, melodic, haunting, complex piece, historically related to their second record and their magical opening song in this. There are moods variations and an introspective tune atmosphere running through the entire song. Here again got also a mix of influences, past and present (maybe future) whisked together, and among those influence are themselves for once, even though the 'first part' of Love Story is not musically related ―in this area their connection is more related to Sleeping in the Traffic― we find that the story is, and the line of the characters in such story going a little while after the remaining point into their own consequential struggles. The climatic conclusion is much more calm and conclusive than the chaotic predecessor as in a self-indulgent closure.

'Ode to the Rock'n Roller' is another not-so-fit song. Again, don't misunderstand me, it is pretty good, melancholic, vibrant, jolly song and actually every piece works pretty good apart, is the blending what doesn't feel entirely right, that's a big problem when you talk about concept album. The track is here, its sounds fantastically, feels good and everything but somehow doesn't work entirely. The closer track, third part of 'The One Inside', announces a farewell in a dramatic yet charismatic tune, a clear bound among listeners through the album and the band. We gratefully has reached the end of the trip and not everything has been great, as most journeys come to be, but in the end the lot became a really nice experience you could repeat any other time.

Still not the best work of the band, is a merry reminder that thy comfort zone is not necessarily a bad thing, in fact could be a really good thing.

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 +4626 - Comfortzone by BEARDFISH album cover Studio Album, 2015
3.99 | 196 ratings

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Beardfish Eclectic Prog

Review by infernalfrog

5 stars Hello progheads! It's my first review here on progarchives, so i hope it don't suck ;) +4626-Comfortzone was the first album that i have the pleasure to listen from this amazing band, so, my review will be made only based in this album, whitout influences from their previous releases.

Amazing, is the only word i have to describe it, it's a great album, with such amazing tracks like "Hold On" (the first track i've listened of them" the magnificent epic "If We Must Be Apart (A Love Story Continued)" and "Ode To The Rock 'n' Roller" with references of previous tracks and a litle critic to the scumbags close-mindeds rock music fans. The soft "The One Inside, Part Two - My Companion Through Life" is another of the highlights here. The album is a great combination of classic Ecletic Prog bands like Gentle Giant (and a bit of Zappa influences) with some heavy tracks like "King" and the great "Daughter/Whore". But what really amazes me is the harmony between the instruments, everything is clear and placed exactly where it should be. It's basic, just guitar, bass, drums and a keyboard here and there, but together it works really well. Congratulations to the band, probably one of the highlights of this year.

9,5/10 4,75/5

**I'm a non-english speaker, so i'm really sorry for eventual mistakes of spellig and coherence.

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 The Void by BEARDFISH album cover Studio Album, 2012
3.87 | 344 ratings

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The Void
Beardfish Eclectic Prog

Review by Moneypulated

4 stars The new Beardfish album could easily be divided in two different parts : the first one, which I had considered to be "the toughest one", It features those Heavy-Rock/Sludge-Metal trend we had previously found on"Mammoth.

The first track "Volontary Slavery", with its cryptic sound, it is probably the heaviest song the band has ever conceived so far but it does not necessary means this is a bad thing because it has enough details to make the whole thing still sound interesting enough and, luckily, there is anything going wrong here, nor even predictable!

"Turn To Gravel" is a perfect crossover of style between Tool, Black Sabbath or even Mastodon with its continuous changes in rhythm, it has mantric, dark and heavy guitar riffs characterizing the gloomy atmosphere which pervades the whole song.

"They Whisper" turns out to be much more on a canonical prog-oriented style but still has some heavy but interesting vocal contributions from Sjöblom, he really proves once again, as if it were needed, his huge talent!

"This Matter of Time", pays tribute once again to Mastodon. It has alternated moments between irrepressible energy and others of apparent tranquility that end up to confuse listeners quite enough, even the more attentive ones! This song virtually closes the first part of the album.

The second one starts with a more convincing instrumental track: "Seventeen Again" and suddenly the band here finds herself walking back on a more safe path, doing anything sound as If Gentle Giant were playing an unreleased Jam together with ELP, anything goes so nicely inspired! One of my favoirites.

The next song is, in my opinion, the pinnacle of the entire work: "Ludvig & Sverker" begins with a very effective call and response between bass and drums and a very nice sounding guitar arpeggio which briefly introduces the chorus theme, while the verses are characterized by delicate sounds of arpeggio guitars and dreamy vocal poetry. The deluxe version of the disc also contains the alternative piano version of the song that is perhaps even better than the electric one!

"He Already Lives In You" is another excellent song where the heavy guitar riffs and vocal parts sound both equally effective without never being constrained. I find quite some classical references to those seminal bands like Sabbath or even Deep Purple.

"Note" is the longest piece of music here and, obviously, the more articulated one which, though long-term, still managed to keep alive the interest of the most attentive listeners who will be surprised by countless special melodic and harmonic interesting details which will eventually enrich an authentic musical pinnacle.

"Where The Lights Are Low" is a kind of slow blues with echoes from the sixties to close this album, It is not bad at all but essentially it sounds a bit as a filler track!

In my humble opinion "The Void" appears to be a bit fragmented almost as if Beardfish have been afraid to dare too much this time, perhaps fearing the possibility of losing most of their Fans who are aways been loyal to their most genuine Prog-Rock oriented music inspired by the seventies. Perhaps this is the reason that prompted them to not go beyond a possible, dangerous point of no return. However it is up to them revealing us their future aims on the next record that certainly will clarify the thousand doubts that this work has definitely aroused in many of us, and a little in me too!

4 stars for the quality of music! 3 stars for the inconsistency of certain stylistic choices!

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 Mammoth by BEARDFISH album cover Studio Album, 2011
3.97 | 498 ratings

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Mammoth
Beardfish Eclectic Prog

Review by Moneypulated

4 stars Swedish musicians really seems to make Modern Prog-Music better than others do!

After listening to most of their music stuff I could not help but notice their incredible variety of different style adding any time something fresh and new, release after release. Their music backgroud is obviously quite the same as other well-known swedish bands like The Flower Kings for instance but, what it seems to be different in Beardfish, in my opinion, is their unique attitude and approach to the usual Prog music of the seventies: It is clearly evident the presence of those typical influences of bands here like Zappa, King Crimson, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Yes or even Jethro but that is only closely related to their sound than style and the music in"Mammoth" can easily demonstrate the concept that I meant before:

"The Platform": The song starts with an evocative double guitar arpeggios that soon introduces a more heavy & complex, but still dynamic, instrumental passages, It all sounds like King Crimson Meets Mastodon but when it comes the verses, the music, while remaining in the epic tone, suddenly becomes less harsh and surprisingly it reminds me a lot of the style of Big Country, even in the way of singing Rikard Sjöblom seems to be so close to Stewart Adamson's tone!

"And The Stone Said: If I Could Speak" : After a brief introduction with radio tuning effect, The piece starts with a very passionate guitar riff that might sound like King Crimson's "Starless Part Two" because it sounds like it was written by Mr. Fripp in person and forgotten in a drawer somewhere for years and years...Seriously, this is the longest Piece of Music and, probably, the best of the entire record...Evocative lyrics, Growling effect which suggests you how the rocks would speak to us. Great Keyboard solo but special mention goes to the bass player: Robert Hansen, He is always cool with its extreme rhythmic & melodic inventiveness.

"Tightrope": the song perhaps more relaxed of the entire work, it is full of pleasant moments with clear melodic folk influences in the Jethro Tull style.

"Green Waves" : This is in my opinion the second highlight of the disc, The sludge-metal influences a la Mastodon powerfully returns here, and it is much more evident in an exasperated , even if effective, vocal performance of the always good Sjöblom. There are plenty of instrumental parts with very good solos from both Zackrisson and Sjöblom and the dramatic chorus turn out to be the best part of the whole song!

"Outside/Inside" : a simple, but effective, piano intro to the next song.

"Akakabotu": The only instrumental piece on the album and...what a track!!!...The guest sax player literally shines here as like as all the other members of the band do!

"Without Saying Anything (Feat. Ventriloquist)" : With the last track, Beardfish are playing safely at home just going back to their classic style that characterized them in the previous albums and suddenly Zappa does it again peeping between the lines...the song is pleasant and more relaxed than before and the final section is my favourite one sounding epic and tragic at the same time.

In conclusion a work that confirms once again the incredible talent of these young musicians who are able to renew themeselves every time, while still remaining true to their greatest passion for classic Prog Music!

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 The Void by BEARDFISH album cover Studio Album, 2012
3.87 | 344 ratings

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The Void
Beardfish Eclectic Prog

Review by Gatot
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4 stars I've just realized that I have not reviewed The Void even though I already listened to it since it was released sometime in August 2012 by InsiodeOut. My initial reaction even before I spun the music of any Beardfish album is only simple words: it must be excellent. I am sure most of you agree with me that Sweden has become the land of progressive rock in this era as so many great prog bands coming out from Sweden. Of course they are heaviliy influenced by legendary bands like King Crimson, Yes, Gentle Giant or eve Genesis. But the music of Beardfish is quite unique in nature and it's hard for me to identify major influence as the band s truly an eclectic prog band - they always try something different with new albums they release. The 2011 release Mammoth revealed a band restless to step outside the their boundaries--or at least anxious to add a little poundage. The Void push the envelope in fact harder than before, I think.

It was just couple of weeks ago I had a lengthy prog discussion with my friend who owns a coffee shop that does not play music but PROG. It's located far away from my hometown at capital city of Indonesia, and he lives and builds his PROG cafe at east Java, Jombang to be exact - it's roughly about 900 KM at east side of Jakarta. Of course I came at his coffee shop for not only this purpose but altogether with my work as Culture Change Consultant at Surabaya and I extended my days of stay to be able to have a lengthy prog discussion at the most progressive environment cafe: Apple Prog Cafe. He, Edi Santoso, is a humble person with havy loaded prog in his mind so everything comes out from his mouth has always been about prog. He even dares to spin only prog for his cafe eventhough his customers not prog lovers at all. So .. he is very pushy to make people get acquainted with prog music.

Why do I need to elaborate a paragraph long about my friend Edi? One simple reason: he is very very Birdfish or so called die hard fan of Beardfish. Even when I was picked by him at the bus station from my journey to Jombang, he palyed The Void inside the car - so here we were altogether in the car enjoying The Void. ANd not only that, he posted a giant poster of Beardfish Robert Hansen at one corner of his prog cafe! So, my meeting with him that day of 19-20 September 2014 was really heavy loaded with PROG and also Baerdfish. By that time I did not realize that I have not reviewed The Void yet. That's why now is my time to give my personal views about this album.

First off, this is definitely an excellent addition to any progressive music album that actually I wanted to review when I wrote The Tangent album - especially when it was said that Beardfish gave narration of the album in exchange of Andy Tillison providesnarration to The Void. But I forgot to review it. I consider this as a concept album as I always play it in its entirety. The music os quite eclectic in nature even though at first spin I though was a prog metal album as there is a growling part at the second track right after introduction: Voluntary Slavery (6:33). The track is quite heavy in nature but not forgetting the eclectic part: you can not predict the song will go to until you experience it. The combined clean vocal and growling part is really nice. It continues wonderfully with the next track Turn To Gravel (5:30) where the heavy side of prog still dominate the song. The next song provides some break as the music has tuned down nto a slower style with They Whisper (6:06).

I do not intend to give a track by track detailed review but one thing for sure that I want to share with you is listening to this album in its entirety. And I think that's my only suggestion: don't get the joy of good music from The Void get interrupted or cut off in the middle of the album - you have to listen to it in its entirety and I guarantee full satisfaction with its music. For some reason now I feel like I find the Gentle Giant reformed into the kind of Beardfish music. I am not saying that Bearfish is a copy cat from Gentle Giant - and of course not as the music is totally different. But ... how eclectic Beardfish is ...that reminds me to Gentle Giant. At that time I also considered Gentle Giant music is very different compared to others. But now I find Beardfish doing similar thing. Of course you will get confused judging the band from progressive metal view points. And also you will be surprised if you judge this using the spectacle of regular prog music because there are many surprises you experience throughout the album.

The epic part Note (15:50) comprises four movements: I. Note, II. Descending, III. The Void, IV. Note (reprise) which typically the track that is sought after by many prog heads. Bearfish has composed the epic beautifully so that you get full enjoyment of the music through the four movements. Not only that, the concluding track Where The Lights Are Low (5:41) provides different style as compared to previous ones especially on raw guitar work.

By the way ... I am completing this review while spinning the album with my iPod Touch connected to bluetooth speaker Divoom Voombox Travel which I just recently purchased and happy with its sound. One thing I wanted to purchase the bluetooth speaker: to get prog music around me all the time , in fact when I ride bicyle. And I am happy with the recent bluetooth technology tah makes it possible for me to enjoy prog anywhere; when I ride my lovely bicycle, I can put the speaker right at the bar while the iPod unit I put at pannier in the back side of the bike. So .. I am writing this review remotely. As the music of The Void comes out clearly with this speaker, I can write representative review about the album ...and yeah ... this is an excellent album, really! Keep on proggin' ...!

Peace on earth and mercy mild - GW

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 Från En Plats Du Ej Kan Se by BEARDFISH album cover Studio Album, 2003
3.60 | 129 ratings

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Från En Plats Du Ej Kan Se
Beardfish Eclectic Prog

Review by DrömmarenAdrian

5 stars The Swedish prog rock band "Beardfish" was formed in the year 2000 and "Från en plats du ej kan se" from 2003 was their debut record. I have listened to it several times now and have hard to let it go, it is so good and rich of great music. The musicians were Rikard Sjöblom (vocals, guitar and keyboards), David Zackrisson(guitar), Stefan Aronsson(keyboards, flute), Robert Hansen(bass) and Magnus Östgren(drums) and the cover has a picture taken from high up on a sky scraper, perhaps in New York or in another modern environment. These listenings were very interesting in many ways.

Three of the songs are sung in Swedish and that is fantastic. A band should sing in their mother's tongue. But also the songs with English lyrics are fantastic. Actually the whole record is so fantastic. "Från en plats du ej kan se" the title track, is a mixture of folk rock and intelligent progressiv rock with a lot of power, some parts are really heavy. The singer has a very unique voice and every instrument do their things. "Today" has a lovely sweaping melody and "Poison Ivy and the full monty" is truely symphonic and lovely. "Brother" is softer and very fine and "Spegeldans" is a very interesting track just as "Om en utväg fanns" with funny lyrics. "A psychic amplifier" has organs that very much reminds me of great prog of the seventies and that is a musical journey I recommend every proger to experience. Totally, the whole record has so much interesting features and I was early amazed and surprised that the band was so good so early in their career. I think I am right when I say that Beardfish is one of the very best prog bands in modern days. My favourite songs here are "Från en plats du ej kan se", "Today", "Poison ivy and full monty" and "A Psychic Amplifier".

Beardfish makes modern progressiv music with a unique style even though it appeals to me, a listener who prefer the seventies' prog before modern versions. This is a beautiful record I recommend warmly!

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 Sleeping In Traffic: Part One by BEARDFISH album cover Studio Album, 2007
4.04 | 386 ratings

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Sleeping In Traffic: Part One
Beardfish Eclectic Prog

Review by Progrussia

4 stars I meant to make review of Sleeping in Traffic Prt 2 to encompass the entire story, but since Part 1 is nominally a separate entry... What I like about Beardfish is they don't just copy the usual British suspects - Genesis, Pink Floyd, Gentle Giant, - but base their music also on more traditional sources - American (bluesy hard rock, soul, country) and European (use of accordion, waltz- and tango-like melodies). I've said that Beardfish for prog is not complicated, a pleasant and accessible band (maybe not on first, but easily on second or third listens). While that is true, their guitars may sound surprisingly dirty and bass - pulsating. Keyboards are vintage-sounding.

Beardfish is classified here as eclectic prog. Compared to part 2, the "day" part of Sleeping in Traffic is more eclectic than prog. For listeners reaction to go from "hey, that's cool" to "wow" factor, it needs to have the Part 2. For that reason, I'll rate Part 1 slightly lower - but only slightly.

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