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CITIZEN CAIN originally formed in London in 1982 with Gordon Feenie (drums/flute) and Cyrus (bass/vocals) and shortly after Tim Taylor on guitar. But even though many critics rated them very highly the band split in 1988 and Cyrus returned home to Scotland. Two years later Cyrus met with old guitarist friend Frank Kennedy whom with friends Stewart Bell (drums/keys) and Dave Elam (bass) had a few songs written. After a few months Stewart went onto keys and drummer Chris Colvin was brought in. With Cyrus on vocals and flute CITIZEN CAIN MKII was complete.

In '91 the first demo was recorded and received excellent reviews. The following year their debut album was recorded 'Serpents In Camouflage', but the band were not happy with the result even though SI Music had agreed to release it. The band line-up then changed over the next few years with Alistair MacGregor coming in on guitar and Nick Arkles on drums and finally recruiting Andy Gilmour on bass. With this line-up CITIZEN CAIN recorded 'Somewhere But Yesterday' and was released through SI Music in October '94.

In '96 SI Music went bankrupt, but since their albums have been re-released on the Cyclops label. As you have already guessed CITIZEN CAIN are a progressive rock band from Scotland. In my opinion their influences I would have to say are JETHRO TULL, CAMEL, MARILLION and GENESIS, who seems to be their biggest influence. To me the music is very much in the GENESIS, "Nursery Crymes" / "Foxtrot" / "Selling England by the Pound" era. But don't get me wrong the music on 'Somewhere but Yesterday' doesn't sound dated, far from it. It's highly complex, fresh, exciting and even at times a little amusing and lets face it GENESIS today are not the same band they were all those years ago.

Now even though, CITIZEN CAIN do show some similarities to earlier said progrock bands, what does it matter if the songs being produced are all excellent and you fully get absorbed listening to their albums. Although the comparison comes to the listener's mind right away, they are able to deliver good quality music. Long compositions are constant on their albums. There are some nice key solos and flute, and the instrumental chops are certainly refreshing for a band that's gonna get hammered on the GABRIEL/FISH thing.

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3.46 | 65 ratings
Serpents In Camouflage
1993
4.09 | 100 ratings
Somewhere But Yesterday
1994
2.49 | 31 ratings
Ghost Dance
1996
3.02 | 46 ratings
Raising The Stones
1997
3.28 | 42 ratings
Playing Dead
2002
3.89 | 128 ratings
Skies Darken
2012

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 Ghost Dance by CITIZEN CAIN album cover Studio Album, 1996
2.49 | 31 ratings

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Ghost Dance
Citizen Cain Symphonic Prog

Review by psarros
Collaborator Neo Prog Team

3 stars By mid-90's with Citizen Cain going through a period of success with good albums and sales Mellow Records made a great steal.The Italian label collected the 80's unreleased material of the band at a time when Cyrus was supported by original drummer Gordon Feenie and guitarist Tim Taylor.The recordings date from mid-80's and the title of the archival 96' release was ''Ghost Dance''.

Citizen Cain was always a very dark-sounding band and ''Ghost dance'' is the greatest proof.Although the sound of the band has always been linked with MARILLION and GENESIS, Citizen Cain did have their own style and presented much more haunting atmospheres than the aforementioned bands.Some of the guitar breaks even recalls KING CRIMSON, while plenty of the grooves have a strong RUSH vibe.Sure thing they do not sounded like the mass of Neo Prog bands of early- to mid-80's except of Cyrus' voice, who was another PETER GABRIEL copycat, alas a very good one.The compositions are characterized by the very powerful and deep bass lines of Cyrus along with Feenie's solid drumming and the diverse and sharp guitar work of Taylor.Working as a trio prevented Citizen Cain to have the richest of styles back at the time, so keyboard and flute parts are sparse.However ''Ghost dance'' presents a group full of energy, high dynamics and passion for producing top-gear Progressive Rock with rapid changes and shifting moods.

A nice archival/documental release by Citizen Cain, although I can see many fans of the band prefering their 90's period, when their sound was richer and less raw.Still this one comes recommended, especially for all lovers of the early-80's rough British Prog stylings.

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 Skies Darken by CITIZEN CAIN album cover Studio Album, 2012
3.89 | 128 ratings

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Skies Darken
Citizen Cain Symphonic Prog

Review by kev rowland
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5 stars I first came across Citizen Cain in 1993 when their debut CD was released by Dutch label SI Music, but in truth they had already been active for some time before that, appearing on the famous compilation 'Fire In Harmony' back in 1985. I was immediately taken by the Gabriel- esque vocals of Cyrus, and the way that the band managed to evoke the spirit and feeling of early 70's Genesis but had brought them into the 90's. I was hooked. Over the years there were some line-up changes, and gradually the output slowed with the last release being 'Playing Dead' in 2002. Like many I never really thought that there would be another album, although I kept in touch with keyboard player Stewart Bell and often asked the question. So, it was both delight and trepidation last year when I heard that the band were recording again. I mean, after all this time was it going to be any good?

When the disc arrived I opened the booklet to see who was involved, and could see just three names ? Cyrus, Stewart and Phil Allen. Annoyingly for me there are no details about who played what, and who (if any) were the additional musicians involved. The Citizen Cain website is still under construction, and the Festival Music site just lists releases so neither are helpful in this regard. I did find a few details on one site where it states that Stewart provided drums as well as keys, Cyrus provided bass (as he did in the early days of the band) and vocals and Phil provided guitars. There is a very simple reason as to why this bothers me, as we need to give credit where credit is due as this is an absolutely stunning piece of work. To put it bluntly, this is one of the finest prog albums you are ever likely to hear.

Put it in the player and immediately the listener is taken aback by the complexity and interplay of the introduction to "The Charnal House". The maelstrom of notes and complicated inter-rhythms gives way to delicate piano and vocals, and one of the most Genesis-like passages of the whole album. Already the listener is deep inside the world of Citizen Cain, and with less than three minutes on the clock there has been musically a lot to digest. The interplay between the musicians, and particularly the way that the melodies and counterpoints are chased and are at times heavily structured and dense, contrast greatly with the simplicity of other phases of the music. And all of this within one song! Stewart's keyboards are a revelation, bringing together a multitude of sounds and styles, often layered, and he would need to be an octopus to be able to replicate this in a live environment.

By the time I got to the end of this album I felt that I had been taken on an incredible musical journey, one with a richness and passion to match anything I have heard in recent years. The only sane thing to do after listening to this is put it back on. The more I have played it the more I have fallen into the spell. So it took 10 years for this one, when's the next? 5/5 in anyone's language.

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 Skies Darken by CITIZEN CAIN album cover Studio Album, 2012
3.89 | 128 ratings

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Skies Darken
Citizen Cain Symphonic Prog

Review by Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer

3 stars It's been ten years since CITIZEN CAIN last released a studio album and it was one that I didn't think much of. I probably wouldn't have bothered with this one except that people were saying they had made their sound darker and heavier. They had my attention. A lot of Neo-Prog bands have changed to a heavier style and for the most part it's been an improvement. One of my complaints of latter day CAIN albums have been the long length of them plus the relentless vocals. I just get so tired of Cyrus' vocals being constantly in my face even though I do like them. Just give me some moderation(haha). Well they have scaled them back some but this is still a long album at over 73 minutes.

It has this theme running through it about how man has failed to learn from past mistakes and the skies are getting darker because of it. Soon it will catch up with humanity and the storm will break. There seems to be a lot of nursery rhyme references on this record as well.

"The Charnal House" is surprisingly heavy. Love the chunky bass, and vocals arrive a minute in. It's heavy again before 2 1/2 minutes as contrasts continue. It blends into "The Long Sleep" where we get some huge bass lines. A calm with piano before 3 minutes and reserved vocals join in. It kicks back in quickly. Again contrasts continue. Spoken words late. "Darkest Sleep / Manifestations" has this marching styled rhythm as the vocals join in. It's building. A calm before 2 minutes then it kicks back in a minute later. I like these powerful sections. "Spiders In Undergrowth" features lots of piano.

"The Hunting Of Johnny Eue / Trapped By Candlelight" has a good heavy sound 2 minutes in then the vocals arrive and it's not as heavy. These contrasts continue. An atmospheric calm 9 minutes in. Great sound of drums and synths when it kicks back in. "Coming Down / The Fountains Of Sand / Delivered Up For Tea / Death And Rebirth" has a powerful intro with chunky bass. A calm with reserved vocals before 1 1/2 minutes and the piano joins in. It continues to be laid back until before 6 minutes when we get a bombastic instrumental section that ends before 8 minutes. Impressive. Spoken words late. "Do We Walk In The World ?" opens with piano as the vocals join in. Bass and drums too. Lots of synths before 4 minutes. It's heavy late as it blends into "Lost In Lonely Ghosts". Vocals follow then we get a silent calm 3 minutes in then the reserved vocals return before it kicks back in.

A good album but i'll stick with their first two studio albums thankyou. 3 stars.

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 Skies Darken by CITIZEN CAIN album cover Studio Album, 2012
3.89 | 128 ratings

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Skies Darken
Citizen Cain Symphonic Prog

Review by Progatron

4 stars It's been a while since we heard from these guys but with Skies Darken it was well worth the wait! Once again we are treated to Cyrus' brand of quirky storytelling, complete with nursery rhyme references and occasional maniacal outbursts, as in the very strong track "The Hunting Of Johnny Eue" with it's "FEE FI FO FUM" vocals or the evil snickering that appears at the end of the otherwise pretty track "Spiders In Undergrowth".

The album's centrepiece track is surely the lengthy "Coming Down / The Fountains Of Sand / Delivered Up For Tea / Death And Rebirth". This is one of those 'journey' songs where the listener is treated to different moods, tempos and approaches, all the while featuring memorable melodies that will please any prog lover - and this is the important ingredient so often missing from other releases of this genre. Although the previously mentioned "Johnny Eue" is a terrific and strong track, this one is certainly another that will give core CC fans what they really desire (they won't be let down by *any* of the tracks, actually).

Terrific writing and playing, a good sense of storytelling, instantly likeable melodies and delicious lyrics add up to a nice long album that you can really sink your teeth into - but it does not seem as long as it is. And that's a very, very good sign. It's refreshing to have an album of this epic scope where there are no 'skipper' tracks.

Only time will tell if Skies Darken will unseat Somewhere But Yesterday as the best Citizen Cain album, but at this early stage, to my ears, this is the best thing they've ever done. I've spun the disc about a dozen times in a very short space because it is just so good, and that's really saying something considering I constantly have a huge stack of cds to go through... the ones that simply aren't as good get shelved rather quickly. This is not one of those. This album is a winner. Well done, lads. Recommended!

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Skies Darken
Citizen Cain Symphonic Prog

Review by Lemmings

5 stars Citizen Cain are one of the most underated neo-prog groups. They are often dismissed as "another early Genesis aping band". This is totally unfair. Apart from Cyrus's singing voice which is highly similar to early Peter Gabriel singing style (and how is that a bad thing?) their music, lyrics and general atmosphere are completely different than early Genesis. Citizen Cain's music is much darker, thick layered, dense and complicated. It is hard to sink your teeth in their music as it takes a while to get used to it but once this happens the reward is so much more fulfilling than with the current neo- prog bands. This is not for the faint-hearted but for music lovers who take their time in exploring the music with patience, and each time you listen to a song you hear new things. However the music is dark and unconforting so if you like your prog light-hearted and easy this is not for you

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 Somewhere But Yesterday by CITIZEN CAIN album cover Studio Album, 1994
4.09 | 100 ratings

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Somewhere But Yesterday
Citizen Cain Symphonic Prog

Review by Warthur
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2 stars I used the term "cargo cult" Genesis in my review of the first Citizen Cain album, and it still vaguely applies to the second one - the band replicate the musical approach and mannerisms of Genesis simply by parroting it rather than by demonstrating a deeper understanding of what Genesis were doing. Still, the production and compositions are somewhat better this time around, so if you are absolutely obsessed with this particular style of retro-neo-prog then you might enjoy it. I still can't reconcile myself to Cyrus' vocal approach though - in particular, he has a two minute unaccompanied monologue at the end of the title track (the section entitled A Word In Your Ear) which is absolutely tedious. (Dear lead vocalists everywhere: if your vocal skit lasts longer than thirty seconds, save it for your spoken word album.)

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 Serpents In Camouflage by CITIZEN CAIN album cover Studio Album, 1993
3.46 | 65 ratings

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Serpents In Camouflage
Citizen Cain Symphonic Prog

Review by Warthur
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1 stars Ahaha. So, you know how people like to diss early Marillion and claim it just sounds like simplified Gabriel-era Genesis? (They're wrong when they say that by the way - Marillion's early sound was a much more interesting blend than that.) Well, take all of those blithe dismissals and apply them to Citizen Cain, because at least as far as this album goes they are entirely true.

In particular, lead vocalist Cyrus' vocal style is so close to Peter Gabriel's in his more flouncey and dramatic theatrical moments in Genesis that it just plain has to be a deliberate imitation - but Cyrus overplays Gabriels' vocal habits so much that it crosses the line into parody. Furthermore, for a lot of the album his vocal delivery isn't nearly as varied as Gabriel's - whereas Gabriel could adopt a sweet, gentle tone at times, Cyrus is locked into the "pretentious proclamation" voice more or less permanently with only a few digressions. The end result is that for the first few minutes of listening to a Citizen Cain album I am usually impressed by Cyrus' impersonation of Gabriel - but it isn't at all long before it begins to bug the hell out of me.

The musical backing isn't so hot either; keyboardist Stewart Bell seems to be reasonably talented but it sounds like he's cursed with rather cheap equipment which sounds cheesy and dated to my ears, whilst Frank Kennedy's guitar solos are reasonable enough - only he just doesn't stop soloing. Which brings me to the problem with Citizen Cain's compositional approach: they seem to construct songs by lashing the crescendos of Genesis songs together and showboat constantly, not realising that it the buildup to such crescendos was an absolutely vital part of the original compositions which can't be dispensed with lightly.

On the whole, Citizen Cain come across like major league Genesis fans who wanted to produce a neo-proggy update of their favourite band, but didn't quite understand how Genesis put their songs together and what influences shaped them, so they end up mimicing the most obvious and distinctive quirks of the Genesis style without any deeper appreciation or mastery of the underpinnings of the great ones' craft.

In other words, Citizen Cain is cargo cult Genesis.

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 Somewhere But Yesterday by CITIZEN CAIN album cover Studio Album, 1994
4.09 | 100 ratings

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Somewhere But Yesterday
Citizen Cain Symphonic Prog

Review by psarros
Collaborator Neo Prog Team

3 stars ''Serpents in camouflage'' was followed by a nice supporting tour but also some line-up changes for Citizen Cain.The band toured along with The Enid and Pendragon,but shortly after drummer Chris Colvin was replaced with Nick Arless.The leading duo of Cyrus and Stuart Bell didn't stop here,as bassist David Elam and guitarist Frank Kennedy were also both replaced by Andy Gilmour and Alistair MacGregor respectively.Being in their most prolific phase,the new Citizen Cain wrote and recorded their sophomore effort ''Somewhere but Yesterday'', another release on the Dutch SI label, in 1994.

Their sound remains grounded mostly in the GENESIS field along with some MARILLION- esque hints here and there.The tracks are much longer,ranging from 9 to 25 minutes (the eponymous one),being slightly more symphonic compared to their debut.The talent of the band however is again lost somewhere between the total lack of originality and the force for ambitious ideas.This is a complete GENESIS clone band with a singer sounding similar to PETER GABRIEL and Bell performing along the lines of TONY BANKS.Still their compositions contain a lot of interesting passages and even some really beautiful parts.Symphonic arrangements with plenty of pastoral flute work,sometimes with a folkish vibe,massive organ work,dreamy and flashy synths,Classical-inspired piano interludes but also a guitarist closer to the distorted style of STEVE ROTHERY than to this of STEVE HACKETT.Cyrus' performance remains at the same high level with a lot of theatrical twists on his singing,while the tracks have sometimes a dark mysterious atmosphere.The sound of the band remains rich, vintage and captivating with fairly complicated themes and a reasonable amount of complexity.

Not a big step forward,neither a step on the opposite way.''Somewhere but yesterday'' may seem a slightly more ambitious effort compared to Citizen Cain's debut,but the final result is the same.Great Neo/Symphonic Rock with a rich sound but very far from personal or unique.If you love GENESIS (like I do) and have no problem with total clones (I do have),you will love this album.If you are on the other side,just listen to some samples first to ensure Citizen Cain's sound is really interesting...3.5 stars.

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 Serpents In Camouflage by CITIZEN CAIN album cover Studio Album, 1993
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Serpents In Camouflage
Citizen Cain Symphonic Prog

Review by Rune2000
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3 stars The excellent recent interview by toroddfuglesteg with Stewart Bell from Citizen Cain reminded me that I actually owned an album by the band and now to this overdue review!

I got this album by a mere chance when I was browsing a downtown record store, somewhere around 2001, and stumbled upon an album cover that I just couldn't ignore. This excellent album cover art belonged to Citized Cain's debut album Serpents In Camouflage and everything about it screamed progressive rock, a genre that I was only starting to uncover by that point in my life.

The album consists of six lengthy compositions ranging from 6 to 13 minutes in length. Listening to the album for the first time reminded me a whole lot of a band called Marillion, which I pretty much was discovering simultaneously with this new experience. Listening to the album today gives me more hints of the classic Gabriel-era Genesis with Cyrus clearly trying to sound like Peter Gabriel while Frank Kennedy's guitar reminds me of Steve Hackett but also a whole lot of Steve Rothery. Stewart Bell does a competent job with his keyboard arrangements and he's not really trying to sound like either Tony Banks nor Mark Kelly but does come off sounding very Neo-Prog to my ears with a distinct touch of the IQ sound.

Even though all of these tracks feature their unique moments, I don't really find any of the first five compositions to be memorable enough and the ones that are manage to overstay their welcome by a margin. There are definitely many instances that pay homage to prog classics from the past, like Liquid Kings's intro section that sounds exactly like the intro to Kansas' Song For America, while The Gathering reminds me a lot of Marillion's Garden Party. Fortunately, the albums magnum opus of a title track is something that is well worth waiting for and once it comes around the momentum pretty much sweeps away all the previous signs of unoriginality for me.

I do get a few fond memories whenever I listen to this album but ultimately I can't recommend it to everyone since the sub-genre that Citizen Cain were going for with this release is already overcrowded by many classic acts that this collective can't outmatch in the hook department. Good, but non-essential record that is well worth a listen if you're a fan of Symphonic Prog.

***** star songs: Serpents In Camouflage (13:23)

**** star songs: Stab In The Back (6:50) Harmless Criminal (10:31) Dance Of The Unicorn (6:28)

*** star songs: Liquid Kings (11:27) The Gathering (11:07)

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 Playing Dead by CITIZEN CAIN album cover Studio Album, 2002
3.28 | 42 ratings

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Playing Dead
Citizen Cain Symphonic Prog

Review by Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer

3 stars This is the latest studio album from CITIZEN CAIN although a new release is apparently just around the corner.There's a new guitarist on "Playing Dead" which helps make this sound somewhat different from earlier releases especially since there is often this metalic tone to his guitar. The cover art has me asking "What were they thinking !".

"Fallen Angels" opens with atmosphere along with these powerful background sounds. A beat a minute in with some heaviness. A cool way to start and my favourite track. "Children Of Fire" features vocals and a laid back sound 30 seconds in. Man he sounds like Gabriel here. It gets a little fuller with guitar. Some heavier guitar 4 1/2 minutes in when the vocals stop. Piano a minute later as different sounds come and go.Vocals are back 7 1/2 minutes in. A calm before 10 1/2 minutes but it doesn't last long. Prominant guitar late. "Shades" opens with drums then it kicks in quickly. A calm after a minute. Piano a minute later and vocals after 2 1/2 minutes. It kicks in late to end it.

"Falling From Sephiroth" opens with synths as some heavy outbursts come and go.Vocals before 2 minutes then it kicks in a minute later. Nice.The tempo and mood continue to shift. "Rivers Of Twilight" is uptempo and bombastic to start then it settles in with reserved vocals. Piano too then it kicks back in around 3 1/2 minutes. It settles once more with vocals before 5 minutes. "Inner Silence" has these experimental noises with drums. It kicks in for the final minute. "Wandering In Darkness" opens in a bombastic manner some good bass follows.Vocals after 1 1/2 minutes in this uptempo tune. It settles back before 4 minutes. I like when it kicks in as we get a good instrumental section.Vocals do return though. "Sleeping In Penumbra" opens with piano and vocals and it gets fuller before a minute.The tempo proceeds to change. A powerful section before 7 minutes then it settles back. "Eternity" opens with reserved vocals and keys and that's pretty much what we get throughout.

A good album but like all their others (except for "Somewhere But Yesterday") it doesn't deserve 4 stars. The guitar and vocals get on my nerves on this album after a while.

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