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DVD 1 - Genesis: When In Rome

1. Dukes Intro
2. Turn It On Again
3. No Son Of Mine
4. Land Of Confusion
5. In The Cage Medley: In The Cage, Cinema Show, Dukes Travels
6. Afterglow
7. Hold On My Heart
8. Home By The Sea
9. Follow You Follow Me
10. Firth Of Fifth
11. I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)

DVD 2 - Genesis: When In Rome

1. Mama
2. Ripples
3. Throwing It All Away
4. Domino
5. Conversations With 2 Stools
6. Los Endos
7. Tonight Tonight Tonight
8. Invisible Touch
9. I Can't Dance
10. Carpet Crawlers

DVD 3 - Documentary Come Rain Or Shine

Total Time: 342 minutes

Line-up / Musicians

- Tony Banks / keyboards
- Phil Collins / vocals, drums
- Mike Rutherford / guitars, bass
- Daryl Stuermer / guitars, bass
- Chester Thompson / drums

Releases information

- Filmed on the last leg of their mammoth TURN IT ON AGAIN tour of Europe and North America
- Concert in Rome at the Circo Massimo on 14 July 2007 (2 hour 40 minutes)
- Extras: Photo Gallery; Bring The Pitch Down Like Elton; Acoustic Ripples Throwing It All Down; Tony Talks About His; Inspiration; The Drum Duet; Not A Period Piece Invisible Key; Phil, Tony & Mike, And Phil & Mike Singing Along.
- 'Come Rain Or Shine' the documentary
- Packaged in a slip cased three panel DVD digi-pak with a central double tray for the two concert discs. The right panel pocket will hold the third, documentary disc with a 28-page booklet with central gatefold spread housed in the left panel pocket.
- Dolby Digital 5.1 (Concert) / Stereo (Documentary)
- Widescreen / Aspect Ratio: 1.78:1
- Number of discs: 3
- Studio: EMI
- DVD Release Date: 26 May 2008

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Review by Gatot
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator
4 stars Disappointed with the audio version "Live Over Europe" I did not plan to buy the DVD version titled "When In Rome". But a friend of mine made an excellent review at i-Rock! mailing list that made me provoked to by the DVD. The set came to my address more than a week ago and I only had a chance to watch this DVD last night. It's a wonderfully packaged DVD set containing three DVDs plus colourful booklet. The emotion being die hard fans of Genesis (especially during Hackett era ) raised immediately with all geat memories about the old days of the band.

At first glance I was so impressed with huge crowd to see the show in front of gigantic and great stage. It's a great viewing, really. The band starts wonderfully with "Dukes Intro" which basically "Behind The Lines" in instrumental fashion. It's an excellent performance as I can see Phil Collins drumming is still powerful especially combined with Chester Thompson. When Phil starts with his vocal on "Turn It On Again" I can hear the quality of his voice that has dropped significantly so that he can not spell out the lyrics expressively. I do not think the performance of the band is excellent because the notes have been toned down to suit Phil's vocal capability.

"Land Of Confusion" is a good track and I press the "extra" button to see how the band and producer discusses about the plan for the concert. It's great knowing behind the scene of the show that can be accessed at the opening of each track in the DVD. "In The Cage Medley: In The Cage, Cinema Show, Dukes Travels" is an excellent show cast that I do enjoy especially on the music and the gigantic screen at background that shows an animation of a man walking and then running. It's really a well planned show. I enjoy the "Cinema Show" part. This time the medley includes Dukes Travel at the ending part plus Darryl Stuermer performs the melody of Guide Vocal. I do enjoy with the guitar performance performed by Daryl, it's so stunning.

Even though only the interlude part of "Firth of Fifth" is played but I do enjoy with the music because it includes double drummers and great guitar solo by Stuermer. Oh, I remember the old days singing this song. Really good!

The next attraction point is when I see the extra part of Mama where the band discusses with the producer on how best they will do with lighting and stage decoration when Mama is performed. And also this is the first time I see "Ripples" being played live in its entirety. It's great! "Conversations With 2 Stools" is also a great viewing pleasure as the two drummers play beautifully.

Overall, this is an excellent DVD package from a legendary band. Keep on proggin' ..!

Peace on earth and mercy mild - GW (i-Rock! Music Community)

Review by Guillermo
4 stars "Sail away, away ...Ripples never come back..." Goodbye, Genesis.

I had mixed feelings when Genesis announced their 2007 tour in late 2006 and I read that their reunion was without Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackettt, and I even became more disappointed when they announced the probable set-list to be played during the tour, with most of the songs taken from their most pop albums and with very few of their songs from the seventies. Another disappointment for me was that they were not going to visit my country to play here. So, despite liking some of the music they recorded as a trio, I really expected some innovations, like playing songs that they had a long time of not playing them. So, when this DVD and the CD set from the same tour was released, I wasn`t very interested in buying them. But mainly the inclusion of "Ripples" in the track list finally conviced me to buy this DVD.

Before I write about each song included in this package, I have to say that I finally know now why they had some reservations to do a reunion tour, and why Phil Collins didn`t want to sing and why he wanted the reunion of their most famous line-up with Gabriel and Hackett. I think that there were several things to take in consideration before deciding to go on tour as a trio too, because Gabriel declined the initial invitation to re-join the band, and Hackett did the same. Among these problems there were:

1. Phil Collins` hearing problems, a thing that kept him away from long tours. It seems that fortunately he has recovered his health, but it seems that he only could do short tours, I think.

2. His voice has changed a lot since 1987. These is evident because since his last tour with Genesis in 1992 several songs had to be played in lower keys because he couldn`t reach some high notes. The same happened for their 2007 tour, with most songs played in lower keys and some of them in even more lower keys than in 1992. This also happened when Genesis in their 19989 tour with Ray Wilson, but I think that the songs from Genesis sound better with Collins as lead singer . Wilson tended to try to imitate Collins but the songs really sounded very different, like played by a Genesis` Tribute band, I think. So maybe Banks and Rutherford were really expecting Collins` return to the band, at least for a last tour as a trio.

So, with taking these things in account, Genesis planned their 2007 tour with Chester Thompson and Daryl Stuermer again in the line-up. Both musicians are still playing very good their respective instruments. All the musicinas obviously look older. But I think that Collins really looks older than Rutherford and Banks (but he is a year younger than them), and I think that his drums playing is not the same as it was years before. He still plays very good, but maybe more relaxed, matured, maybe not wanting to damage his hearing with a lot of volume from his drums. Rutherford again used a double-necked 12 string guitar-bass, a thing that he did for the last time during Genesis ` 1983-84 tour. Banks plays some new keyboards, and I think that some of the sounds are not as good for my taste as the sound of his old keyboards. Anyway, he had to use the best technology in keyboards, he had to update them.

The stage design had some similarities to the stage design they used in 1992, but they also updated it with the most recent visual and sound technology available in 2007. They still used some visual things in the screen that they also used in 1992, but the majority of the visual effects and images were new.

The quality of this DVD in sound and picture is very good. This is maybe their best concert DVD in respect of sound and picture quality. It was really prepared with a lot of care, I think. The same happened with the time they took to rehearse the songs and to prepare all the details of the stage and visual designs, lights, sound, etc. In fact, at the end of the concert, in the Final Credits, a long list of personnel is credited for a lot of hard work, I think. The inclusion of the "Extras" show how hard they worked to prepare a very professional tour in every aspect. Maybe for some people these "extras" are boring, but for me they are very interesting because they show the hard work before doing a tour. They also show, sometimes with a lot of humour, the interactions among the musicians during the reharsals, the choice of songs to be played, and also they show a bit Collins` honest considerations about how his voice has changed. They also show how the band discussed the changes in keys to allow Collins to sing in a comfortable way. I have to say that it takes some time to like these changes in keys, because at the first listening some of them sound a bit strange, after hearing the original versions in other keys for years.

Now, song by song:

1. "Duke`s Intro": they started the concert with an instrumental medley combination of the instrumental part of "Behind the lines" and "some parts from "Duke`s Travels" from their "Duke" album. Being an instrumental medley they played it without key variations. 2. "Turn it on Again", played with change in key. 3. "No Son of Mine": played with change of key. 4. "Land of Confusion": played with change of key. 5. "In the Cage": played with change of key. 6. Medley of "Cinema Show" / "Duke`s Travels": being an instrumental medley it was played in the original keys. 7. "Afterglow": change of key, again. The keyboards sound particularly different in this song in comparison to the original studio version. 8. "Hold On my Heart": with change of key, too, 9. "Home by the Sea": with change of key too, except in the isntrumental section of "Second Home by the Sea" which was played with the original key. This song has been included in every concert video they have released since the "Mama Tour". This song and "Mama" taken from their 1983 album are not among my favourites, so...I could have prefered them to be replaced in the set list with some of their songs from the seventies. 10. "Follow You, Follow Me": a very good song from 1978, this time with Collins singing and playing the drums at the same time. In the "Extras" section about this song, Rutherford suggests Collins to do it because he liked more his drums playing style in this song in particular in comparison to Thompson`s.I think that they didn`t change the key in this song. 11. The last song leads the band into the instrumental part from "Firth of Fifth" on which Stuermer plays the guitar solo (without changing the key), and this is followed by "I Know What I like", played in a different key, I think. It also includes Collins` famous tambourine routine. 12. "Mama": also played in a different key and with Collins not singing the last verse of the song. He didn`t sing the same verse in their 1986-87 tour. 13. "Ripples": played with a different key and with an abridged instrumental section. Anyway, this song is so good (one of my favourites) that it alone justifies the buying of this DVD package in my case. Collins sang with feeling. Great performance by all the musicians. 14. "Throwing it all away": with changes of key, I think, but I`m not sure. 15. "Domino": played in a different key, too, with innovations in the visual and light elements . Very good performance. Thompson particularly shines in this song with his drums playing. 16. "Conversations with two stools": Collins` and Thompson`s solos, first played on stools (very well too) and later on drums in a drum duet. This leads the band to: 17. "Los Endos": a good version but with Collins playing less energetic drums than in other live versions . Anyway, it is a very good instrumental song played in the original key. 18. "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight": in another key, again. They only played an abridged version like they did in 1992. 19. "Invisible Touch": with changes on key, again. It is maybe their best pop song from the eighties. 20. "I Can`t Dance": with changes of key, again. 21. "The Carpet Crawlers": again in another key. Before this last song is played, Collins explains to the audience (he almost always speaks in Italian to them reading in some papers) that Genesis loves Italy due to their support. I think that this concert was recorded and released on DVD to aknowledge the support the band received from Italy in their early days, because their first albums had more success in Italy than in their own country and others. A very good gesture by Collins and the band. 22. The "Final Credits" section has, significantly, I think, "Fading Lights" playing in the audio. I consider this song as their "Swan Song" from their "We Can`t Dance" album, their last with Collins, from 1991. I think that this is a message for the fans, like saying to them "This was our last tour. Goodbye", because the lyrics of this song say goodbye in meaning, to the passing of time, like "Ripples".

Another good thing about this DVD is that being filmed and recorded in Rome, it really allows to the Fans to see a different audience, because most of their previous concert videos were filmed and recorded in England. I don`t have nothing against the English audiences, but audiences around the world interact in a different way with the bands, and this allowed me to see how the Italian audience interacted with the band, and also the cameras focus more than in other concert videos in the audience`s reactions, and I also could see that the cameras caught the images of some beautiful Italian girls. I also could see in the audience the flags of several countries, among them the flag of my country.

This is a very good concert DVD package. I don`t give to it a five star rating because some of the songs are not among my favourites. But I`m not disappointed after buying it. Another good thing is the inclusion of subtitles in Spanish and in other languages.

Review by AtomicCrimsonRush
5 stars A beautifully fimed, well-crafted look inside the world of Genesis.

Every track on this incredible live experience is masterfully produced, editing is superb and the sound quality par excellence.

Phil Collins gets the audience clapping and singing from the get go and they are observedly having the time of their lives. Even songs that I usually can't stand such as Hold On My Heart, are so well performed that it is inspiring. Tony Banks is absolutely superb and drives every track with his scintillating keyboard work. The drumming is precise and bass and guitar flow evenly throughout.

The highlights on CD1 are the excellent Duke's Intro, Turn It On Again, In The Cage Medley: In The Cage, Cinema Show, Dukes Travels, Home By The Sea, Firth Of Fifth, I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe). Each are masterpieces in their own right on the studio albums but the live treatment is second to none. It was so blissful to hear new versions of Firth of Fifth, and Cage. The screen in the background is artistically innovative ranging from beautiful light patterns to actual images, notably the running man in the Cage. A delight it is too to be able to see into the behind of the scenes work that went in to this concert with the special features.

CD2 begins with the wonderful Mama and Ripples. But the highlight is the lengthy, awesome Domino. The screen work is incredible portraying dominoes falling. An effort should be put into checking out the actual making of this clip and how the button pusher suffered a heart attack almost as the screen was not operating properly.

I did not like the pretentious Conversations With 2 Stools - the effort they put into getting the stools though is hilarious - but what a waste of time. No wonder Rutherford yawns while they are rehearsing this drivel.

Los Endos is as pleasant as ever but they did not perform Dance on A Volcano. Also I wished they had tackled the momentous Suppers Ready. But I guess you can't have everything. The concert ends with the magnificent Carpet Crawlers and the crowd love it and sing every word. What a concert. This is worth at least 4 stars but my 5 star rating is due to the extra DVD documentary.

As far as a fly-on-the-wall doco goes, this is about as good as it gets. We enter a world of decisions, concert schedules, stress, and pure energy as the band prepare to assault the world with their tour. It is a brilliant doco full of laughs and traumatic moments, particularly the things that go wrong, and those people who mean well but are off the scale when it comes to presenting their clips and the stage design. But Genesis are unswerving and bloody minded enough to let the promoters know exactly what they want and they get it. Music over imagery is the key. If its not Genesis they dont want it no matter how cool the graphics are. It is inspiring to see how the band work so well together and how much they care about their audience and about remaining true to their origins.

This is one of the best DVD live packages you will ever see!

Review by Ivan_Melgar_M
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Symphonic Prog Specialist
2 stars Call me when Gabriel and Hackett are back

Great production, great sound, great video, but there's is a terrible problem....THE MUSIC, most of it is from the infamous three men era and the few songs performed from Gabriel era, are not remotely like the original for two main causes.

1.- The voice of Phil Collins is something I simply cant stand, flat unidimensional, boring, makes every song tedious.

2.- The lack of Steve Hackett is the main cause, I know Daryl Stuermer is an excellent JAZZ musician and admire his work with George Duke and Jean-Luc Ponty, but I can't imagine Firth of Fifth (for example), with anybody playing the guitar except good old Steve.

It's also evident that the songs have to be played in lower key because Phil Collins voice is not the same as some years ago, this is more than obvious in tracks like Land of Confusion and Turn it on Again.

The case is even worst in Mama a terrible song (IMO of course) that already was awful, now with this change of keys, looses the little interest I had for it, it's clear that the best days of Collins as a vocalist are behind him.

I believed this was an unnecessary tour, and of course this is an unnecessary DVD, except for fans of the POP years, but I'm not one of them.

Now, being absolutely honest, the In the Cage Medley touched some fibers of my soul, but as always I hate to see this great tracks reduced to parts of a medley while some less than mediocre songs are played completely, as throwing some scraps to the original and long time fan, in this occasion even worst, because of Duke's Travel....For God's sake, why in hell must Duke Travels be played in a Gabriel era medley? They give us very few songs, the best ones lumped in a medley, why must the effect be destroyed by a three men era poppy track that doesn't belong there?

If we were to rate production, image and technical aspects, I would give four, maybe five stars, but for the music and performance I won't give more than one star, so making my own average (placing more value in the music, because what's the point of interviews and extras if you -as me- can't stand most of the music?)

So I will go with two stars for the Medley.

My opinion hasn't changed, I don't care for any reunion that doesn't include Gabriel, Hackett and/or Phillips.

Review by progaardvark
COLLABORATOR Crossover/Symphonic Teams
4 stars I was really impressed with this latest 3-DVD set released in 2007 and featuring their last show in Rome during the European leg of the Turn It On Again Tour. Originally the group had tried to organize a live performance of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway reuniting Genesis with Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett, but both backed out. So the threesome of Collins, Banks, and Rutherford decided to put together a short tour they referred to as "a selection of shows." Although many, including myself, would have loved to see a Gabriel-led Genesis come back, even briefly, it was not so. Still, any reunion, including the Collins-led form, is better than nothing.

Not having followed the tour as I was interested in other things at the time, I stumbled upon this DVD some time ago and had wondered if it was worth my time. I was intrigued by the set list because it wasn't completely filled with stuff from their last two Collins-era albums. True, it had some, but I think this set list really balanced the old with the new nicely to satisfy both camps of fans Genesis had, pop and prog.

One thing you may notice (perhaps not at first, but with future listens) is that many of the songs are played in lower keys. This is loosely documented in the extras and the documentary disc Come Rain or Shine when it becomes quite clear that Collins can no longer hit the high notes, a common problem with vocalists as they get older. In a way it was kind of sad to see Collins struggling with these and in the end it influenced what Genesis would include in the set list. Even played at lower keys, the songs are still well performed and I personally did not find it distracting.

For a bunch of 50+ year-old musicians, Genesis can certainly pull off some stunning performances. Collins and his cohort Chester Thompson can still drum like they were in their 30s. And even Daryl Stuermer, better known for his jazz work, can pull off an exhilarating and respectful Steve Hackett solo, particularly the one he performs on the Firth of Fifth excerpt. Banks is still the keyboard maestro of his earlier years, although some of the Cinema Show solos sound like they're off tone (he should've stuck with the Moog!). Instead of his former mountain of keyboards, he only uses three now (the wonders of technology I presume).

The In the Cage/Afterglow medley is amazing, as is the performances of Home by the Sea, I Know What I Like, Ripples, Domino, Los Endos, and the Carpet Crawlers. Collins and Thompson perform a stunning duet that starts with a set of stools (the ones you sit on!) that leads into a stunning performance of Los Endos.

Like any progger, I could do without some of the selections, like Hold on my Heart, Throwing it all Away, Invisible Touch, and I Can't Dance. Even so, they performed these wonderfully, though I will often skip them. And this is the reason this DVD set will never get a masterpiece rating from me.

Some killer performances, a remarkable (yet strange) stage with some cool video effects, and unbelievably entertaining audience interaction. The Come Rain or Shine documentary is very well done, showing just how terribly English these fellows are. Clearly a must-have for Genesis fans and easily worth a four star rating.

Review by Matti
3 stars It's kinda funny how strong emotions a GENESIS reunion can raise among fans. Or rather, the idea of a reunion in which also the names Hackett and Gabriel pop up - and which is why their return as the core trio (plus long-time live members Stuermer and Thompson) can only be a minor prize, no matter how long they were inactive during all these years. I can understand the feeling, but I myself can easily enjoy their performance without thinking of what it isn't.

Are they really two decades older than at the time of their last studio album We Can't Dance? Well, some have mentioned the restrictions in Phil Collins' voice, but I'd say you can hardly tell the difference. They sound quite the same as before. In their concert appearance not much of anything has changed. Apart from Collins' showman manners the band likes to hide under the huge technical stage constructions, as they did before. The visual side doesn't steal the show however, instead it could have been more colourful. I wasn't so impressed by the cold digital graphics. At times they are quite blurry (e.g. poolside growth during 'Ripples' or ghostly figures of 'Home By The Sea'), and the running figures ('In The Cage') or city views ('Domino') taste somehow outdated. And always they are very repetitive. During 'Follow You Follow Me' the canvas shows some old band photos from the seventies and figures of album covers, mainly Duke, as moving colourless line drawings. We are not talking of the kind of sharp screen videos you can see in a Pink Floyd concert.

The programme has a good deal of classic stuff of the seventies, both from Gabriel era and the quartet era. But from later albums the choices have no notable surprises. Again the hit album Invisible Touch (1986) is too dominant, and We Can't Dance is represented by the hits, ignoring the more progressive contents of the album. This orientation into band's more commercial output is sad, much sadder than the absence of former band members. But anyway, as a whole I was quite satisfied, because I wasn't really expecting anything more.

Oh, almost forgot to write about the third disc, the nearly two-hour document about planning the tour. In a word: BORING!!! One hour of it would have been more than enough.

Review by rdtprog
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Heavy / RPI / Symphonic Prog Team
4 stars This reunion concert was part of a small tour of the legendary band after 15 years of inactivity. The band decided to play in front of some of the biggest crowd in large stadium. A huge stage and impressive light show was added to create the ultimate experience to the audience. The set list was composed with their latest releases and some old favorites; "Carpet Crawlers", "Ripples" and some excerpts of old ones in a medley. While i prefer by far the Genesis era with Peter Gabriel, some songs like "Domino" and "No Son of Mine" are very enjoyable. However i prefer to skip a couple ballads of the Collins era that are more pop than prog to keep the momentum going...

The picture is nice and the 5.1 DTS mix is loud and impressive. Also, the band have made the most interesting documentary of 2 hours in a third DVD, were you see the friendship of each musicians working in studios and preparing for the tour. We see that the band had a word to say in the design of the stage setup.

Review by Finnforest
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator
4 stars A last evening with old friends

Sometimes, one has to say farewell to someone or something we love very much.

In the case of Genesis, they thankfully did seize the chance for a proper goodbye. Considering that they haven't been a prolific creative force in many years -- they are more an entertainment enterprise like Pink Floyd and Rolling Stones of later years -- Genesis actually took the time and made the effort to create something much better than I expected, for sure. They planned out this goodbye release as a truly thoughtful hug to their fans, and it turned into something worth owning. And this is coming from someone who generally does not approve of old farts milking a band name -- I'm with Grace Slick on that issue.

Naturally, being the three-piece line-up, the set list was bound to focus on the Collins era primarily. You just have to set aside your desire for some grand 70s reunion and be realistic. These are old men retiring the live Genesis band, and it is going to be something different than what prog fans want, but in this case that isn't necessarily bad. This concert and especially this documentary gave me three very enjoyable nights of viewing in my home theater. They allowed the fans to share in their personal goodbyes to each other. We are given more in the way of intimate access with this release than most DVDs by legacy acts.

The nearly two-hour documentary starts from the beginning of rehearsals and gives us a "fly on the wall" view to everything. There are lots of fun surprises, but I'll share just a couple. On the first day Phil arrives, the guys share their "good to see you again" hugs before settling in to listen to some songs. Mike, who likes to joke a lot, asks Tony if it's time to break for lunch before they'd even done an ounce of work. Personalities open up here, which is what makes this package worth it. As the glorious sounds of "Cinema Show" wash over the practice space, we watch the guys faces while listening to Peter sing, and you can see them react to the magic with warmth and melancholy on their faces. You can see them marveling at how good the music still sounds and how long ago it was. It is very interesting and authentically emotional. After they decide to try playing the intro, Mike asks his assistant if he has a 12-string acoustic tuned and ready to go. The assistant affirms that he does. Mike pauses and then says, "Good, give it to Daryl" and they all burst into laughter again.

Stuermer explains how he and Thompson are able to drop right back into the groove because as working musicians, they are practicing every day. For the other guys, it is much harder to pick up where they left off many years ago. They allow us to see them working through that frustration. Sometimes, it's fun and humorous. Other times there are flashes of irritation that bubble up. The same is true for the production team. We expect that a band of this level would have teams of top level pros whipping their sound and stage show into expected form with the wave of a wand. The truth is that it was much more chaotic than you'd think as people tried to learn the songs and technology as the time before the first show was rapidly running out. It appeared that some of the light show timing aspects were barely finalized before the first show curtains went up. I also really enjoyed watching the some of the preparation that Phil and Chester went through as they worked up their playful co-solo.

Another priceless moment shows the three guys about to take the stage to a packed stadium in Europe (Finland, if I recall correctly) as the fans shout with thunderous volume, "Gen -- ee -- sees, Gen -- ee -- sees!!" The guys are in their small huddle below the stage, listening to this chant with amazement and nervous smiles, just about to climb the stairs to the stage. The give each other a final hug for good luck, ready to face a stadium of faces for the first time in 15 years. Suddenly, Phil and Mike decide they need a quick pee before taking the stage, and the look on Tony's face was priceless. Lots of little bits like this really made it fun for me. They then cut to Mike exiting the backstage men's room as he remarks, "All ten drops." Nothing like a little aging rock star prostate humor.

Did I mention there are also two full discs of concert music? I really loved every second of it. People can whine all they like about the two missing gentlemen, but despite the advancing years of the guys, I just loved every second of the show regardless of era. From the exciting introduction to "Afterglow" to Stuermer's massive solo on "Firth" to "Ripples" to "Los Endos," there were nicely performed gems throughout the evening. They struggle a few times, primarily Phil trying to hit certain notes. It would not be unlike watching Gilmour try to take the Floyd on the road again at this late juncture. Sure, he could do it, but it wouldn't be quite the same as the 70s, especially with Roger's croak of a voice. I actually like Phil's performance here and I like his matured voice. His clowning-around persona is toned down quite a bit. He is more serious and determined, no doubt a result of the great challenge, and I find the vocal performances just as pleasing and somehow more heartfelt. And Daryl and Chester are as kickass as ever. The time away hasn't phased them at all.

And then there is Rome! On the final night of the European leg, hundreds of thousands of Italians, all who realize that they were witnessing these friends for the very last time, made for extra passion and emotion. Everyone knows this is it, the last tour. It's a fitting venue choice because the Italians were very accepting and passionate about Genesis in the lean years. Cameras wisely captured people singing along to "Carpet Crawlers" during the final encore, and it really did get me choked up. Frankly, I realized that these people were special to me. Genesis have always been "around" in my youth and now they were saying goodbye. That is something that proved worth taking part in. Seeing people young enough to be the grandchildren of the band crying as they sang along to Carpet Crawlers proved again how special music can be. (Actually, I think that part was Finland, too.) The whole event truly had a lot of love, and I feel sorry for people who can't enjoy this because A) it isn't prog enough, or B) Steve Hackett isn't there.

The Circo Massimo gig is the one featured in full, on a beautiful night that really set off the huge screen and stage ambiance. The stage itself just looked amazing in the Rome night. The official crowd estimate for that night was 500,000, making it the biggest gig Genesis ever did.

Phil recalled, "They say there were 500,000 at the concert, but to honest, if you were in Rome that night, you were there... you had no choice. I've got a friend who works in The Vatican - which is a mile or so away across the river - and he told me that it was pretty loud even over there and that everyone opened their windows to let the music in."

Not often is a big stadium show from a legacy act, 40 years past their prime, going to affect me the way this one did. It would seem that, for me, they simply cared enough about the final product to succeed here. This is not treated as a throwaway or a product obligation, but as something that should matter. It feels to me like they wanted this document to be something people would want to return to, and I would definitely watch it again with great joy.

"It was a great opportunity. I think it's nice to get out there and, sort of knowing it is probably the last time, have a little bit of fun with that closure. Each night was kind of an emotional experience because you were playing a place you had played many times over the years and tonight you were saying thanks to everybody for the last 30 years of coming to see us. It's kind of nice way to say goodbye, really." -Collins

I might take this moment to also recommend both Collins and Rutherford's recent bios. Phil's book documents the absolute freefall of his health in the years following this DVD, while Mike's book was a fascinating look at both family and life in Genesis going all the way back to the very start. Both books are also chock full of entertaining, humorous, and heartfelt stories, with relatively little pretentiousness.

So, if you are able, set aside your cynicism and your expectations for a few evenings to take in this last call with old friends. I'm so glad that I did. I loved it.

Addio miei vecchi amici.

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5 stars #18 Review It is time, i'll review the latest concert that Genesis did, can't believe that it has been more than 10 years, i was alive then but still not a fan of the band because i wasn't aware of them, i was aware of bands like Iron Maiden and Depeche Mode, at the time i was learning about Ph ... (read more)

Report this review (#1907684) | Posted by FalconBleck | Wednesday, March 21, 2018 | Review Permanlink

5 stars A great progressive rock entertainment! This DVD is just stunning. Of course has some weak points but as an average is 5 stars. This are my reasons: The overall concept of the show is fantastic. Specially the screen and the videos that accompany the tracks. The sound is great. As a DVD h ... (read more)

Report this review (#291138) | Posted by genbanks | Monday, July 19, 2010 | Review Permanlink

3 stars The latest, and probably the last tour Genesis did couple of years ago, was a great opportunity for a younger generation (myself included) to see some of the classic songs performed alive. The setlist was a nice overview of the band's history, even though the 80's stuff was in the majority. When I ... (read more)

Report this review (#254030) | Posted by wanderer | Wednesday, December 2, 2009 | Review Permanlink

5 stars Ordered the DVD and received it 3 days ago (exactly one year after the show!!!). Dont know if it is because I am one of the 500000 people who attended the show, but the feelings which watching the DVD I experienced, are absolutely fantastic.. I can live again one memorable hot summer roman night ... (read more)

Report this review (#177070) | Posted by luc4fun | Thursday, July 17, 2008 | Review Permanlink

5 stars I would give five stars for the documentary by itself. Add a another five star concert to the mix and this DVD is bordering on something really special. The Come Rain or Shine documentary gives every detail that someone could hope to know and more. From the personal end of the band members an ... (read more)

Report this review (#176839) | Posted by White Shadow | Monday, July 14, 2008 | Review Permanlink

5 stars Wow! That is all I can say. This is an absolute essential for Genesis fans. The documentary on the third disk is worth the price alone. It is about 2 hours going from the first rehearsals in New York in October 2006 up to the first show in summer 2007. Was very interesting to see the band work to ... (read more)

Report this review (#173884) | Posted by transend | Saturday, June 14, 2008 | Review Permanlink

5 stars I assigned the 5 Star rating before starting this review. A message appears telling me to practically think about what im giving it. Im pretty sure when something is a 10 or a 5 star or an A+ or whatever you want to call it. Im a big Peter Gabriel Era Genesis Fan, im also a fan of the ... (read more)

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