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Giles Giles & Fripp

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Studio Album, released in 1968

Songs / Tracks Listing

The Saga of Rodney Toady
1. North Meadow (2:29)
2. Newly-Weds (2:07)
3. One in a Million (2:25)
4. Call Tomorrow (2:31)
5. Digging My Lawn (1:50)
6. Little Children (2:48)
7. The Crukster (1:35)
8. Thursday Morning (2:50)
Just George
9. How Do They Know (2:14)
10. Elephant Song (3:15)
11. The Sun Is Shining (3:06)
12. Suite No. 1 (5:33)
13. Erudite Eyes (5:05)

Bonus Tracks on 1992 CD realease
14. She Is Loaded (3:11)
15. Under the Sky (4:01)
16. One in a Million (mono single) (2:25)
17. Newly-Weds (mono single) (2:44)
18. Thursday Morning (mono single) (2:57)
19. Thursday Morning (stereo single) (2:57)

Total Time: 59:28

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Line-up / Musicians

- Pete Giles / bass guitar, vocals
- Michael Giles / drums
- Robert Fripp / guitars

Guest musicians :
- R. Cohen, W. Reid, K. Isaacs, G. Salisbury, B. Pecker & G. Fields / violins
- J. Coulling & R. Patten / violas
- Nicky Hopkins & Mike Hill / keyboards
- C. Tunnell & A. Ford / celli
- C. Hardie & T. Barker / trombones
- The Breakaways / backing vocals

Releases information

LP Deram Records (820 965-2) UK 1968

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Review by Sean Trane
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog Folk
3 stars 3,5 stars really!!!

Many Crimson fans have a hard time appreciating the genesis of their favorite band , mostly because of the silly but yet so British humour present. Yes , some of those tracks are silly tid-bits , odd ditties but no more than Gong or even early Genesis (Harrold the Barrel or Willow Farm).

And if you do forget the rather silly story line of the conceptual first side of the album , you will find many elements already present in the future Crimson. The opening track has got that special Giles drumming we all love , Mellotrons are used on another track etc....

But the highlight for many will be Suite No.1 , which I find interesting but no more. I reserve most of my applause for the closing track, Erudite Eyes with again stupendous drumming and great guitar works. Erudite Eyes and North Meadows are book-ending this corrct album is a very superb fashion.

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Posted Friday, August 05, 2005

Review by soundsweird
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3 stars Sometimes, historical interest outweighs "progressiveness" in terms of an album's value. I would not sell this album or "From Genesis to Revelation". And, since I enjoy guileless British pop music from the 60's, I would like this album even without the Crimson connection. Whimsical and low-key are the watchwords here. Incidentally, one of the bonus tracks, "Under The Sky", is completely different from the stellar version found on Pete Sinfield's "Still", and the songwriting credits there are obviously wrong. If you're a big fan of "Still", you'll want to hear this version. I agree with most reviews I've seen: the Fripp guitar pieces are the best things on the album, and are worth the price, unless you get "gouged".

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Posted Tuesday, August 23, 2005

Review by Matti
COLLABORATOR Neo-Prog Team
3 stars So what if this is very far from 'the court of the Crimson King' in musical style? Surely a Crimson fan can be quite disappointed with this album, but taken as it is, it's very charming, intellectual, tongue-in-cheek pop album of the sixties. Songs are about two minutes long and they can be compared to some BEATLES tunes like 'When I'm 64', 'Martha My Dear', etc, or to other sixties bands with an innovative playing like Beach Boys or Manfred Mann.

The simple songs of A-side are all part of 'The Saga of Rodney Toady' (by Fripp) that has narration between the songs. It's about a fat and ugly boy of fat and ugly parents who advice him to find a fat and ugly girl to marry. Monty Python -type of silly English humour... or actually more naive and less obviuosly trying to make one laugh; like a bit weird children's book!

There are, however, things beyond the simplicity and childishness. You don't HAVE to be a Crimsonist to enjoy Michael Giles' great drumming or Fripp's guitar, but it makes it more interesting to listen to it as the pre-stage of that legendary band.

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Posted Monday, November 07, 2005

Review by Trotsky
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3 stars At some point tracking down this album is going to prove practically irresistible to every King Crimson fan. A psych-era album featuring three future King Crimson members including the meister himself, Mr Fripp, has to be of interest, surely. And it is. The bulk of the album has very little to do with progressive rock, and you probably have to be a fan of "silly" psych albums like The Small Faces' Ogden's Nut Gone Flake and Pink Floyd's Piper At The Gates Of Dawn to appreciate this album on its own terms, but even allowing for that, there are two impressive tracks which while not exactly pointing the way forward, show that even at this early stage, Fripp and co could make beautiful music.

One main element that defines the album is the quirky narrative that links the songs. The first half of the album focuses on Rodney Toady a fat, ugly misfit, while the latter part deals with Just George, another dysfunctional character. However, understanding the narrative passages is scarcely key to enjoying the album, and in truth they are quite annoying.

As for the songs themselves, they are generally a tamer (but not necessarily poor) version of the sort of stuff that early Floyd was doing. North Meadow and Newly-Weds is pastoral psych with the former song containing some nice fluid jazz guitar lines from Fripp. One In A Million is very English music hall psych ... the sort of track done not just by Floyd, but by the Beatles and The Kinks as well. After a while the novelty wears off as the songs get weaker ... Digging My Lawn, Little Children (the female vocals are particularly twee), etc are pretty weak efforts ... but then there is a big twist towards the end ... because after picking up a little thanks to the absurd, subtly biting Elephant Song ... the album is saved by its two closing tracks, Suite No 1 and Erudite Eyes.

Suite No 1 is a delicate classical instrumental, with an opening that rides on some great high speed playing by Fripp and the accompanying pianist. It then segues into a melancholy segment (with quite possibly the first strains of mellotron making an appearance), before some more classical (this time tinged with flamenco/jazz) comes in. In some ways this is one of Fripp's most impressive guitar performances ever ... which is really saying something!

Erudite Eyes on the other hand is a wild folk/jazz exploration, with an intriguing melody giving way to some stunning psychedelic double-tracked guitar lead work, as the dust settles, both Fripp and Peter Giles on bass begin some really exciting atmospheric improvisations, which gives the piece a really daring quality.

The bulk of this album isn't remotely original, and as such can be put aside quite easily, but I'm sure that Suite No 1 and Erudite Eyes are essential songs for the committed KC fan to hear ... not because the roots of the great band can be heard here, but because we get to hear some quality progressive music that sounds very different from the varied stuff that King Crimson put out. The CD release has some bonus tracks that include an early and quite pleasing version of the Pete Sinfield composition Under The Sky, which simply adds to the curiousity value. ... 57% on the MPV scale

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Posted Sunday, March 12, 2006

Review by ExittheLemming
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2 stars Loons in (Short) Loon Pants

This is much better than anyone could reasonably expect given how hopelessly dated the production is and how irredeemably 'twee' some of the ideas are behind the flimsy Saga of Rodney Toady and Just George

At its lowest ebb, it comes across as almost a hippy take on Flanders and Swann meet the Goons, while at others, the mood takes a darker turn and some real pathos is evident. Unfortunately, these moments are too infrequent for Giles, Giles and Fripp to sustain and the remainder is a mildly diverting but whimsical collection of 60's pop songs.

If the album has any enduring value, it is probably only as a fascinating document of the types of influences and inputs that would be assimilated from the youthful heir that was later crowned King Crimson.

Fripp's previous stint in a Bournemouth dance band is evident here and it may be quite startling for many progheads to hear him 'vamp' along like an old jazz pro on these numbers. He also reveals a fondness for guitarist Wes Montgomery and mimics perfectly the latter's use of 'octave' soloing.

A track by track analysis would be unwarranted but some of the following are certainly worth hearing at least once:

Call Tomorrow - Somewhat sombre in tone where the trio drop their 'wacky' guise for once and present us with an angular melody that undergoes some arresting harmonic changes redolent of liturgy as conceived by a pious Syd Barrett.

The Crukster - Nascent Frippertronics over which a discomfiting narrative, completely at odds with the rest of the album, and reminiscent of the delivery in Procul Harum's In held T'was I is recited.

A bright colour will cover that pain till silence is sent and then once again you can hear Hell's heat

Thursday Morning - This is my favourite song on the album but no, it ain't gonna give In the Court of the Crimson King any sleepless nights, but is clearly the most fully developed and successful tune on the record.

How Do They Know? - notable if only for the appearance of the same melodic fragment being used on the McDonald & Giles album where it's called Tomorrow's People

'Suite No 1' - Some incredibly rapidfire picking from Bob, which echoes (somewhat tenuously I admit) Fracture from Starless and Bible Black This is what 'Django Reinhardt plays the music of King Crimson' may have approximated.

Erudite Eyes - Harmless enough 60's styled pop tune with a medieval tinge not really worthy of closer inspection until it mutates without warning into a very interesting and spacey 'freeform improv' section where if my ears do not betray me, Fripp's inimitable thick fuzzy liquorice tone can be clearly heard for the first time.

If The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles & Fripp had been edited to remove the excruciating and puerile dialogue that intersperses the tracks, this may have rewarded repeated listens, but in its present form Moonchild is still but a sparkle in Robert's eye.

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Review by Evolver
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Crossover & JazzRock/Fusion Teams
3 stars Do not go into this album with the idea that this is King Crimson. Despite Mr. Fripp and the Giles brothers, this bears very little resemblance to the music of the Crimson King. The first clue, in all of the photos on this album, Fripp is (gasp!) smiling.

A friend of mine once said that the one common aspect of all of the early music from the great proggers of the seventies is silliness. This is true of The Nice, early Pink Floyd, and even band's like Tomorrow (Steve Howe's pre-Yes group). But few were as silly as Giles, Giles & Fripp.

The songs are all short, mostly under three minutes, and are not bad, for sixties psychedelia. Fripp plays mostly jazzy sounding riffs, only breaking out on the classical sounding Suite No. 1. The songs are divided into two groups, each strung together by some Monty Python- esque spoken word sections (remember the Gumby sketches?).

All-in-all, this is not an amazing album, but certainly a welcome part of my collection.

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Review by tarkus1980
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4 stars Once upon a time, before the days of King Crimson, Robert Fripp and original KC drummer Michael Giles were part of a trio (with Giles' brother, Peter) called, appropriately, Giles, Giles and Fripp. Their one and only album, reviewed here, sold a very very small number of copies, and it is definitely quite true that the only reason I should know of its existence is that all of its members would eventually play for the mighty Crim. Despite that, though, it's amazingly enjoyable, and definitely not a chore to sit through or to review.

The greatest thing about this album is that, whereas Crimson albums wouldn't have anything resembling a "national identity," this album is so thoroughly British in so many places that I can't help but grin. First, I must point out that, thanks to this album, I can never ever hold any malice towards Robert Fripp again, if only because nobody who can deliver such a hilarious spoken piece as "The Saga of Rodney Toady" deserves anybody's hatred. This is BRILLIANT straight-faced British humor, and Fripp's delivery is simply perfect as perfect can be - I can't imagine anybody else saying "Rodney's mother was fat and ugly, and Rodney's father was even .... fat-and-uglier" or anything along those lines and doing it better than good ole Robert does here. God Bless Robert Fripp.

The rest of the album, with the exception of a LAME repeated spoken partner to "Rodney Toady," entitled "Just George," is basically a ton of Kinks-style Brit Pop crossed with some jazz ideas and the occasional bit of Moody-Bluesian balladry. Some bits of Crimsonian elements creep in here and there (some of the vocal harmonies in "North Meadow," the brass riff in "Elephant Song," the dissonant guitar lines of "The Crukster," the bits of classical influence in "Suite No. 1"), but for the most part this is just really solid, slightly tweaked pop with elements of music hall. For a Crimson fan, I guess that wouldn't necessarily be the best news, but for somebody like me, who likes the concurrent Kinks albums (not to mention that I consider Between the Buttons one of the best pop albums ever), it's cause to pump my arms up a couple of inches and utter a quiet "woo hoo." Some songs are better than others, to be sure, but after thinking about this album again, I'm quite sure that I won't be able to get the melodies to "One in a Million," "How Do They Know?," "North Meadow" and "Thursday Morning" out of my head for quite a while.

So yeah, even though it's kinda hard to give this an extensive review, this is one of the most worthwhile historical curiousities I've come across in a long time. There's tons of interesting, tweaked and hilarious bits to dig out while listening throughout, and if it weren't for all these ridiculous "Just George" bits, this would have a chance to take quite a significant place in my collection. As is, it's still freakin' amusing.

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Review by Slartibartfast
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4 stars An appropriately named album indeed.

Sort of Monty Python meets King Crimson, even though it predates both by a little.

Out of the two albums that serve as parts of an early Crimson sandwich, this one I like the best (the other one being McDonald And Giles), probably due to the presence of Mr. Fripp. His signature style is pretty well developed at this point. There is a heavy '60's flavor to some of the music that might be off-putting to some, particularly when compared to In The Court Of The Crimson King, which I find has a certain timeless quality to it. So, dated perhaps, but after getting big into KC, this was a nice discovery.

If you don't believe humor belongs in music, then you might want to avoid this one. You will want to check this out if you are interested in hearing something that is foundational to King Crimson.

"And then once again you can hear hell's heat."

Rounding up.

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Review by Guillermo
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2 stars I think that the main importance of this album is really of being an immediate antecedent to the formation of King Crimson, but the musical styles of both bands are really very different, because this band was really a strange mixture of Jazz and Rock sounds with bizarre lyrics talking about some strange characters with a good dose of British humour. So, sometimes it is difficult to understand the humour of some of the lyrics being very British in sense. But anyway this album has some funny moments and very good musical performances by a trio of very good musicians. It still has some very good Prog related arrangements and particularly Michael Giles shines in his drums playing, while Robert Fripp`s guitar playing is more oriented to Jazz than to Rock, and the same could be said about Peter Giles`s bass guitar playing. Anyway, with this strange mixture of musical styles and comedy lyrics it is not really hard to understand why this album and this band didn`t have success then. But even in the present, this album is not a very interesting listening, apart from the historical interest and curiosity. Maybe the Britsh fans of King Crimson could be now be more interested in this album and in this band, but for the other fans of King Crimson it could be more of a collector`s interest.

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3 stars Admirers of Syd Barrett and the more pastoral side of early Floyd will like this. Unfortunately it's not as strange or acid drenched but retains a certain British quirkiness throughout. The songs are sursprisingly catchy and remind me of Bowie's first album from '67. The Saga of Rodney Toad, ... (read more)

Report this review (#300340) | Posted by Dobermensch | Friday, September 24, 2010 | Review Permanlink

2 stars Compeetly into King Crimson since the mid 70's, and knowing about this album for 25 years, i was very exited about getting it when i finaly got it by postorder sometime in the late 90's. I was expecting something in the line of "In The Wake Of Poseidon" i guess. My disapointment was allmost ph ... (read more)

Report this review (#276679) | Posted by tamijo | Wednesday, April 07, 2010 | Review Permanlink

2 stars This quirky, idiosyncratic, folky collection of whimsical little ditties represents the genesis of an embryonic King Crimson. For those used to the mellotron and woodwind-laden first two King Crimson recordings, this recording, which on initial release sold about 600 copies will present a signi ... (read more)

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5 stars AN AMAZING LOOK AT THE GENESIS OF ONE THE MOST PROLIFIC AND PERHAPS THE FIRST GREATEST PROG BAND EVER Well what could i say about this album other than it seems to be the root of all the moody blues and pink floyd not to mention crimson and even renaissance music that came later ... (read more)

Report this review (#92758) | Posted by APleasantSymmet | Saturday, September 30, 2006 | Review Permanlink

5 stars Having discovered the amazing development of Giles, Giles & Fripp leading to the formation of King Crimson, I do think that "The Cheerful Insanity" is an essential. Not only is the music very well played, and of excellent lusicianship, but the mode of the music is highly thoughtful, humorous ... (read more)

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