HOELDERLIN

Prog Folk • Germany


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This, in my opinion, underrated German progressive rock band has its roots in '63 when the brothers Joachim and Christian Grumbkow founded the rock-band The BEATKIDS and played covers from The BEATLES, The ROLLING STONES and The SHADOWS. In november '70 the brothers GRUMBKOW presented the name HÖLDERLIN (derived from a German romantic poet) after they had played with a sery of musicians mainly folk-rock covers (especially TRAFFIC), all layered with long instrumental improvisations. Then HÖLDERLIN got an invitation from a record company, this after only three months of their existence! The debut-album "Hölderlin's Traum" was released in '72 with a nine-piece line up, including female vocals and instruments like the Mellotron, Grand piano, violin, cello, sitar, tablas and flute. Their sound is a progressive blend of rock, jazz and folk. It sold 5000 copies and the LP is still a collector's item. But then the troubles began with their producer Rolf-Ulrich Kaiser (TANGERINE DREAM, KLAUS SCHULZE and WALLENSTEIN). He tried to force the band into a more cosmic approach ('LSD' inspired complained the band) and was not amused with the "more political oriented lyrics" as he analyzed.

It took almost three years with many juridical conflicts to get rid off the contract but eventually HÖLDERLIN won their case. Under the new name HOELDERLIN (in German the pronunciation of "oe" is the same as the "ö" and much easier to write or type) the second eponymous LP was released in 75. The band called their music 'romantic rock', it sounded more jazzy and it contained echoes from KING CRIMSON and GENESIS. HOELDERLIN toured through Scandinavia, Holland, Germany and Switzerland, got good reviews and radio - and tv-airplay. In '76 HOELDERLIN released the album entitled "Clowns and Clouds". The music consists of more complex rock with many theatrical and surrealistic elements. In '77 Christian had a mental breakdown, he could no longer combine the too busy work with the band and his family life (the upbringing of two children). He left and Spanish guitar player Pablo Weeber joined HOELDERLIN. In '77 they released the album "Rare Birds", a year later followed by the 2-LP "Hoelderlin Live Traumstadt". Soon after the unstable personality of Pablo led to his dismiss. "Traumstadt" got very good reviews, it even reached the German charts. Further releases were "New Faces" ('79) and "Fata Morgana" ('81), including new drummer Eduard Schicke, know from the progrock trio SCHICKE, FUHRS, FRÖHLING. These albums have a more accessible melodic rock approach.

The double-album "Hoelderlin Live Traumstadt" is their finest work and showcases the band at their pinnacle. It's still considered as one of the milestones in the German rock history and has some similarities with other German progrock band GROBSCHNITT concerning the long solos, visual effects, costumes and humor. The music was recorded in the Wuppertaler Opernhaus in October '77, the 2-LP was released in '78. The band was hit by multiple changes in the line-up, on "Traumstadt" the musicians were Joachim Grumbkow (keyboards and vocals on "Streaming"), Pablo Weeber (all guitars), Michael Bruchmann (drums), Cristoph 'Nops' Noppeney (lead vocals and violin) and Hans Bäär (bass). All the nine melodic tracks have their own climate and features fluid accelerations, nice interludes, pleasant keyboards (string-ensemble, electric piano, organ and clavinet) and great interplay between electric guitar and violin. But the focus is on the solo work: fiery ("Sun Rays"), biting ("Soft Landing") and howling ("Die Stadt") on the electric guitar and exciting ("Streaming") and spectacular ("Die Stadt") on the violin. Many solos are supported by the wonderful and distinctive sound of the string-ensemble, a compelling combination! Recommended, especially to the fans of the violin play of Jean Luc PONTY and Eddie JOBSON.

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4.18 | 35 ratings
Hölderlins Traum
1972

4.00 | 14 ratings
Hoelderlin
1975

3.50 | 12 ratings
Clowns & Clouds
1976

3.63 | 8 ratings
Rare Birds
1977

2.96 | 6 ratings
New Faces
1979
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Fata Morgana
1981

3.00 | 1 ratings
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3.76 | 8 ratings
Hoelderlin Live - Traumstadt
1978

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 New Faces by HOELDERLIN album cover Studio Album, 1979
2.96 | 6 ratings

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New Faces
Hoelderlin Prog Folk

Review by Gooner
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4 stars I can see why this album would get some bad reviews, but unjustly so. For one thing, Hoelderlin are one the more underrated bands on the progarchives.com site. It may have something to do with them being listed in the wrong genre of PROG. FOLK, where their first album, Hoelderlin's Traum, really only qualifies in that genre. Hoelderlin took a 4 year break after Traum, coming back sounding more like mid-period Camel/Caravan meets SFF, 10cc and the Alan Parsons Project. Anything after Traum should be listed in Symphonic Prog. If you enjoy Camel's _Breathless_ album, Hoelderlin's NEW FACES should be on your priority list. The track _I Want You_ sounds very 10cc meets Brian Wilson. _Cold Winds_ sounds like something you might hear on Camel's Nude and it actually sounds longer than its 3 minutes. _High In Shanghai_ sounds very SKY meets Camel's Rain Dances and is a great instrumental on par with anything by Camel. _The shouter_ is very 10cc at their headphone candy best. _Footsteps/Weekend_ is a cross between the finest parts of 10cc, Camel's Breathless, and may sound a little like SFF instrumentally near the conclusion. Of note to fans of SFF, Eduard Schicke is the new drummer on this album adding a bit of jazz rock fusion to the mix, sounding not unlike Andy Ward from Camel. I must stress, for fans of Camel's _Breathless_, Holderlin's NEW FACES comes highly recommended. You'll be pleasantly surprised.

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 Clowns & Clouds by HOELDERLIN album cover Studio Album, 1976
3.50 | 12 ratings

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Clowns & Clouds
Hoelderlin Prog Folk

Review by ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher

3 stars Vocally and aesthetically there is a whole lot of Genesis influence here; musically it’s a bit closer to Camel; either way these guys sound more British than German in my opinion. Turns out for me at least that’s a pretty good thing, as I’m not at all a fan of Krautrock and don’t even like the harsher-sounding German folk bands. Those sorts of bands have their fans of course, but I’ve always thought the prototypical German sound often lacked a melodic ambience that I sort of like in my folk and symphonic music. There are exceptions of course – Carol of Harvest, Amenophis, maybe Parzival. And these guys. Their music seems sort of mildly irreverent to me; intricately excellent, involved, but ultimately almost tongue-in-cheek. In that respect a little bit like Fruup or even a bit like the stuff the Tangent puts out sometimes (although not quite as instrumentally ambitious I suppose).

The two-sided theme approach to the album (Cloud side versus Clown side) is one of those things that was sometimes clever back in the days of albums, but is all but lost on today’s raised-on-CD audience. I think Joe Jackson’s ‘Night & Day’ was probably the last such disc I ever bought on virgin vinyl and it too seems to suffer from being recast on a 4-1/2 inch slab of whatever CDs are made of.

No matter, what’s important is the music and that is pretty good here. Slightly less folksy and more symphonic than the band’s ‘Hölderlins Traum’ CD, which is the only other disc I have from them. And the last two songs (the Clouds side) is much less animated than the Clowns side, but both are equally appealing in their own ways. I can appreciate the slowing building beauty of “Phasing” at the end almost as much as the rather hyper extended “Madhouse” that opens the record, and the bouncy “Circus” makes for a nice transition between the two.

Unlike the debut the vocals are in English here, which makes following along on what is essentially a loosely-coupled story album a bit easier for the likes of monolingual dullards such as myself. Thanks to the band for that.

And although there isn’t a hit single to be found anywhere (or probably even a single at all – or at least not one that I know of), this is in the end a decent piece of work. Nothing memorable, nothing spectacular; then again, nothing overly pompous or ponderous either. So all things considered since this is a prototypical progressive rock album coming right on the heels of the most self-absorbed period of progressive music, that in itself is a compliment.

Three stars for being quite good and worth listening two more than three decades later, even if this is a mostly forgotten record. Recommended to symphonic prog fans as much, or even more so, than prog folk ones.

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 Hoelderlin Live - Traumstadt by HOELDERLIN album cover Live, 1978
3.76 | 8 ratings

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Hoelderlin Live - Traumstadt
Hoelderlin Prog Folk

Review by barp

4 stars A superb live testament to this often underated band at the peak of their instrumental powers. Superbly recorded and boasting two lengthy bonus tracks - Before you lay down recorded the previous night to the bulk of the original album release - and Traum recorded for a radio broadcast in 1977 - this is an excellent two CD set. Hoelderlin's music is a blend of symphonic rock featuring complex inventive arrangements and elements of folk and jazz rock style improvisation. It's a great combination of styles highly recommended to anyone who enjoys Happy The Man and their ilk. Largely instrumental much of the live excitement centres around the interplay of violin, guitar and keyboards supported by very deft bass and drums. Uplifting progressive music of the highest order!

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 Hölderlins Traum by HOELDERLIN album cover Studio Album, 1972
4.18 | 35 ratings

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Hölderlins Traum
Hoelderlin Prog Folk

Review by ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher

4 stars ‘Hölderlins Traum’ is the first and really the most folk-leaning of all of Hoelderlin’s albums. While the album has clear markings of German folk with its heavy-sounding Hammond and the occasional mellotron (as well as German-language vocals), there are also a number of musical treats such as the brief “Strohhalm” with its Eastern-inflected (wooden?) flute, tabla and sitar motif, and the easy-going acoustic number called simply Peter.

The band sold a surprising number of copies of this debut despite them being relatively unknown and not at all imbued with anything resembling a mass appeal sound. Great for prog folk fans today though, who have an opportunity to appreciate this rare recording thanks to Spalax’s reissue.

The recording quality is just a bit rough, even for early seventies standards, but this is only a minor distraction since most of us who seek out old prog folk music are pretty much used to substandard recording quality. But the range of instrumentation thanks to the nine performers makes up for the lack of range in sonic quality nicely.

The band is fairly naïve in their themes and arrangements, but in a charming way that music of this era tends to be. “Requiem Für Einen Wicht” for example is given a ‘requiem’ treatment simply by inclusion of stark piano chords throughout despite really being more of an almost traditional-sounding folk song made ‘modern’ thanks to heavy organ riffs and snare drums. Christoph Noppeney is particularly noteworthy on violin for this track, with most of the last several minutes focused around him.

The band shows a little Anglo influence with the medieval opening track “Waren Wir “ as well as “Erwachen”, while the lengthy title track is a rocking instrumental with more great violin and an animated and persistent rhythm track that carries the album to completion.

My only complaint is that the record is a bit brief at less than thirty-five minutes, but again this is a minor quibble and for the most part I found it to be truly enjoyable and very representative of progressive folk of the early seventies. A bit dated today, but if you are into old German prog folk bands like Ougenweide or Eden (although Hoelderlin’s later works are closer to Eden than this album), you may find this one to be pleasant and worth picking up. Four stars is a tad bit high but I think this record is just a bit better than three thanks to the variety of instrumentation and the obvious enthusiasm of the players. Recommended to most all prog folk fans.

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 Hölderlins Traum by HOELDERLIN album cover Studio Album, 1972
4.18 | 35 ratings

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Hölderlins Traum
Hoelderlin Prog Folk

Review by kenethlevine
Special Collaborator Prog-Folk Team

4 stars Hoelderlin's first is squarely in the folk prog camp with plenty of psychedelia thrown in, not surprisingly given the era. Very little of the symphonic washes that were to rule the roost a mere few years later are prevalent here. Pleasant if not very emotive male and female vocals in German, lots of acoustic guitars, some reeds, violins, and even cello predominate, with occasional mellotron adding a spacey vibe. It's an album that requires a fair bit of patience to get into, because it tends to induce a near trance-like state that allows the barely 34 minutes to pass by virtually unnoticed.

Even on first listen, the first and final cut distinguish themselves and leave one wondering what was missed in between. Both up the prog ante, with lots of mellotron and fine percussion. The way the album ends, I wonder if the second, self titled effort follows on from the more revved up style that fades out in mid promise, or if that was just an anomaly. Of the remainder "Reqiem für einen Wicht" is the best, with a middle section built on strong repetitive melody beautifully expressed by Nanny DeRuig. But ""Peter" and "Strohhalm" are fairly thin by any yardstick, and "Wetterbericht", in spite of some interesting ideas, takes too long to not fully express them.

Like a lot of dreams, Hoelderlin's Traum is hard to remember once I wake up, but like a lot of good dreams, I am left feeling happier. Even though the style was rife in 1971, this album manages to distinguish itself over and above the use of German, and that warrants a rounding up as I awaken from my catatonia.

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 Hölderlins Traum by HOELDERLIN album cover Studio Album, 1972
4.18 | 35 ratings

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Hölderlins Traum
Hoelderlin Prog Folk

Review by Finnforest
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4 stars Classic dreamy prog-folk from Germany.

When I first heard this album I thought instantly of the Brit-folkie classic "Just Another Diamond Day" by Vashti Bunyan. Vashti's album is a more stripped-down affair than this one but the spirit and the beauty of the simple music is quite similar. Holderlin takes the basic template of Bunyan's classic and adds a touch of hippie rock to the folk music. The acoustic guitars and lovely, delicate vocals that make up the basic framework here are adorned with bass, drums, flute, cello, organ, and mellotron. The result is some of the dreamiest and sublime folk rock you've heard, to my ears much better than what I heard from Trees. All vocals are in German but don't let that stop you.

"Waren Wir" begins so beautifully with violin and acoustic guitar, enter the soul stirring singing of Nanny DeRuig. After the introduction the song changes a bit and we get a fairly snappy beat over mellotron with flute improvisation. In the middle of this section some male spoken vocals briefly intrude. Strange opener. "Peter" has a very traditional folk music sound and this one reminds most directly of Bunyan's album. The pleasant vocal melody carries the song over acoustic and bouncy bass. "Strohhalm" is another fairly traditional folk song with sitar, tablas, flute, and male vocals this time. "Requiem" injects some tension with the nervous violin in places and is considerably more dramatic in mood. Some room is allowed for a string solo in the middle. Make sure to watch the cool live video we have of this track on the site or on YouTube. "Erwachen" has a flute solo for an introduction, very nice. After a short pause the song continues with piano, acoustic guitar, and nice vocal. A bit of cello comes through now and again. "Wetterbericht" starts with two acoustic parts and Nanny's fragile childlike singing. The guitar work sounds simple but is actually quite well thought out and trance inducing. "Traum" continues the meditative picking of the previous track but soon adds some hopping percussion, flute and violin. The pace is much more upbeat here and would make a great track for some of that free-form Deadhead style of dance. The violin and bass interplay gets fairly crazy towards the end and then fades.

Essential for fans of our folk prog genre. The album cover is perfectly fitting. The music of Holderlin's Traum is like a dreamy summer afternoon flitted away in a meadow. When I listen to this at work it makes me want to turn off my computer, walk out the door, and drive to the country. Music like this could cost you your job. Oh well, life is short. I really encourage fans of this album to hunt down Bunyan's "Diamond Day." It's every bit as good as this although much sparser and without the proggy touches. 3.75 stars.

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 Hölderlins Traum by HOELDERLIN album cover Studio Album, 1972
4.18 | 35 ratings

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Hölderlins Traum
Hoelderlin Prog Folk

Review by Eetu Pellonpää
Special Collaborator Psychedelic Prog Specialist Team

5 stars This emotionful folk album really struck to the very heart of the elements building up my musical appreciation! "Waren Wir" opens the album presenting some key motives of the record; Melancholia, beautiful romanticism in psychedelic context. There are lush keyboard passages over the conventional rock trio sound, flavored with enchating violin and RUFUS ZUPHALL sounding flutes. There is a faster part in the middle with some narrative vocals, and in the end the track is fading in and out mysteriously. "Peter" is a more conservative song with tradiotional medieval guitar appregio start and more down-to-earth polka / peasant song in the end. "Strohhalm" is a short oriental sounding number for flute, tablas, sitar and the male voice. "Requiem für einen Wicht" is one of the major tracks here, starting mysteriously with flute, lady singer and fast run of drum plates building up tension. Acoustic guitar chords start to stir to the compostiotion towards a marching rhtyhm with violins, having really great melodies and sounds, leading to a moody verse which is exeptionally great. Then there are also some classical music resembling movements for violin, guitar and bass guitar in the end, before the song returns to the starting motive. There is also a nice film been shot from this song (actually to be found from this webpage when I'm writing this!). "Erwachen" start again traditionally with flute on the front. After short quiet voices a slightly Spanish sounding theme for guitar & piano is presented where the singress joins. A nice tune, but it sadly fades away without decent conclusion reached. Then we can enjoy some great guitarwork and moody singing on the song "Wetterbericht". This is a really pretty pastoral, where my thoughts started to disappear to romantic pastures conjured by the players. Some neat quiet synths create some mist upon them. Later choral voices underline the sacred emotions evoked by the scene.

The album ends to a fabulous "Traum" (Dream), which starts with waves of drum plates evoking mantralike acoustic guitars descending below, joined by tablas which predict the rock rhythm section and flute to enter, making again a groove sounding quite much RUFUS ZUPHALL's album "Weiss Der Teufel". Later the faster beat collapses, and the voices reduce pace and their form swirls surrealistically for a moment before the melodic theme returns, before the track and the entire record melts away. Here the fadeout works well (a rare example), making a feeling of ascending away from the dreamy realm left to run to the planes unreachable, exept when summoned by playing this album. The record was probably an influence for late 1970's CAROL OF HARVEST, having great instrumetal free impressionistic jamming sequences. I really like the romaticism, mysticsm, medieval influences surged trough the psychedelic frame of reference with a find musicmanship making up yet anonther vintage ace album from the 1970's Germany. Recommended for anybody for liking hazy and traditional folk music with fragile female voice!

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 New Faces by HOELDERLIN album cover Studio Album, 1979
2.96 | 6 ratings

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Hoelderlin Prog Folk

Review by akin
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2 stars This album I've heard some times in the past and I don't own it to give a detailed description of the songs, but I think it is useless, since the album is not that interesting to the prog fans. The year of the release is all suspicious and even the cover was suspicious to me. And I could have my bad expectations confirmed when I listened to the album.

Hoelderlin's New Faces is a pop-rock album with some electronic influences that make it a bit prog, but just vaguely. None of the songs can be considered prog per se, but there are some few songs that are more interesting, like, for example, the opener, with some electronics, but nothing else. Other songs are completely pop-rock, and some are in the same situation of the opener, but it is not sufficient to make this album interesting from a prog point of view and even for the folk-prog fans from the early days of the well-crafter prog rock made by Hoelderlin, since the album is neither prog, not folk.

So it is better avoided by most of prog fans and even Hoelderlin's fans.

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 8 by HOELDERLIN album cover Studio Album, 2007
3.00 | 1 ratings

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Hoelderlin Prog Folk

Review by erik neuteboom
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— First review of this album —
3 stars It's party time for the fans of the legendary German progressive folk band Hoelderlin: a new band and line-up (with only drummer Michael Bruchmann as an original founding member) since their latest effort entitled Fata Morgana from 1981, an European tour and lots of digitally remastered albums with bonustracks, new booklets and liner notes, see their website for details!

And how about their current sound? Well, if you like their acclaimed mellow prog folk on the debut album Hoelderlin's Traum you will be pleased with the new CD Eight: most of the 10 compositions sound dreamy with acoustic guitars, violin and pleasant vocals (female and male). The female singer has an important role, she colours the music very beautifully with her a bit high pitched but warm voice. Some songs sound a bit more powerful like the splendid On The Bridge (from dreamy to compelling and bombastic featuring in the end a raw and great build-up guitar solo with hints from Neil Young) and the mid-tempo songs Come To Me and The Mechanism Of Antikytherea, the UK progfolk band Mostly Autumn comes to my mind. I was also delighted about the wonderful pieces Forget Me Now (with intense violin work) and the final track Rivers delivering a dreamy atmosphere with soft organ waves, sensitive piano play and warm vocals, beautiful!

If you are up to warm, melodic, tasteful and a mainly mellow blend of prog and folk (with the emphasis on folk), this album will be yours! My rating: 3,5 stars.



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 Hölderlins Traum by HOELDERLIN album cover Studio Album, 1972
4.18 | 35 ratings

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Hoelderlin Prog Folk

Review by luisman

4 stars I´ve been listening this holderlin´s first album for several months now, and, have to admit what a pleasure each time my ears touch the headphones, and the first whirled notes of waren wir do their headwork...elegant and crispy outputs for an analog record for such years. guitars and flutes are so well married, for the keys of mellotron may enter a heavenly space. Natures sounds are omnipresent thru the album making it like an intoxicating walk over a deep forest full of mushrooms and wet peat smoke..what? ouw, birds..what else can i say? a short but grateful german folk record, easily a ranked one of the genre. may ai give another half star at the rating for a sure shot.rgds,L

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