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Is there an exact limit between Psychedelia and Prog Rock?

After listening "SECOND HAND", the only answer possible is no and that's the main reason why Proto Prog was created as a link between the two genres. Outside Prog Rock's petite universe it would be easier to describe what these guys were doing and that's why you will find them in almost every Psychedelia site or catalogue something that is not wrong but neither truth, "SECOND HAND" is somewhere in the grey area between both genres. The story of this British band starts around 1965 when the keyboardist Ken Elliot formed a band named THE NEXT COLLECTION but in 1968 they signed with Polydor Records and the label suggested them to change their name that could lead to a confusion (maybe mistaken with any compilation) so they chose MOVING FINGERS but this name was already taken, so as joke in reference to their used instruments they went with SECOND HAND.

The band was formed by the already-mentioned Ken Elliot playing keys and singing, Kieran O'Connor on drums, Bobby Gibbons on lead guitar, Nick South playing bass and they invited Chris Williams to add flute, cello, violin and saxophone in their debut album "Reality". This first release is clearly more oriented towards late Psychedelia but very advanced for the genre, anybody can feel the characteristic early-Prog sound, hidden somewhere. Despite being an excellent album, it never reached a great popularity in the charts, and stayed an undeservedly obscure and underrated gem from the late 60's.

They had to wait almost three years to release another album, but this was too much for Bobby Gibbons and Nick South who left the band, being replaced by George Hart (bass, violin and backing vocals), Moggy Mead on guitar and they recruited Ken's brother Rob as a new lead vocalist and a frontman, seeing that Ken was too busy working with his new mellotron and organ. With this line-up they left Polydor Records and joined the new Mushroom Records label with whom they release their second album "Death May Be Your Santa Claus". Now, this album is really weird as it is described not as Psych, Prog, Rock but all of them at the same time. Dark, obscure, excellent arrangements, with a clear influence of Arthur Brown, it's definitely a tremendous advance in SECOND HAND'S career but at the same time was the beginning of the end.

After some members quit, the band changed their name to CHILLUM (who knows why?) and released an eponymous album, whic...
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3.06 | 28 ratings
Reality
1968
3.83 | 51 ratings
Death May Be Your Santa Claus
1971
2.30 | 21 ratings
Chillum (*)
1971

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 Death May Be Your Santa Claus   by SECOND HAND album cover Studio Album, 1971
3.83 | 51 ratings

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Death May Be Your Santa Claus
Second Hand Psychedelic/Space Rock

Review by Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer

4 stars I read somewhere that SECOND HAND named their album "Death May Be Your Santa Claus" after hearing about the underground film with the same name which was made by none other than Frankie Dymon Jr who is on this site for his music. Man this is one strange album that touches on Avant-Garde, Symphonic and Psychedelic music. There is a strong Proto-Prog vibe here(tons of organ) and the singer Rob Elliott was a big fan of Arthur Brown's vocals which certainly is obvious at times. While listening to this I thought of bands like Captain Beefheart, GENTLE GIANT and Frank Zappa. Besides the usual instruments we get mellotron on four tracks along with violin and vibes. It's so cool that Lol Coxhill guests here playing some disturbing sax(haha). This is an original, one of a kind listening experience, I'll say that. It took many spins to absorb and appreciate what was going on here but it was well worth the time.

"Death May Be Your Santa Claus" has a drum/ organ intro as these bizarre vocals that are quite wild come in. I'm thinking Krautrock for some reason. Love when the mellotron and those Arthur Brown-like vocals take over as these two themes will be contrasted throughout. "Hangin' On An Eyelid" might be my favourite track. This is brighter at first with vibes, bass and drums standing out then it picks up and the vocals join in. So good! The mellotron really impresses me here as it comes and goes. Piano and drums standout before 4 minutes as the vibes return as well.

"Lucifer And The Egg" is an uptempo organ driven tune with bass and a steady beat as the vocals come and go. I really like the instrumental section from 2 1/2 minutes to 5 minutes with all that atmosphere as the organ, drums and bass lead as they seem to jam. It turns experimental after 5 minutes, very psychedelic and strange as spoken words join in. Pulsating organ and vocals later on. "Somethin' You Got" really reminds me of GENTLE GIANT both vocally and instrumentally. Another favourite. Some fuzz in this one as well beginning before 2 minutes. Crazy vocals and vocal expressions follow.

There are two bonus tracks and I don't usually comment on bonus material unless I'm impressed but they've put these two tracks in back to back right in the middle of this recording which I haven't seen very often. First is "Dip It Out Of The Bog Fred" which is really out there with nature sounds and a multitude of weird samples that come and go. Adventerous for sure. Dissonant sax late. The other bonus song is "Baby R U Anudder Monster" with those silly Zappa- like vocals. They are replaced though by vocals sounding much like Captain Beefheart. A zany tune in many ways.

"Cyclops" is a fantastic tune and it's my co-favourite along with the second track. This is darker with organ at first before this thick and dark atmosphere invades the soundscape. Organ returns along with marching styled drums. Man it sounds incredible after 2 1/2 minutes, like experimental Krautrock really. Some faint violin before 4 1/2 minutes then the organ proceeds to dominate as the drums shuffle with bass helping out as well. "Sic Transit Gloria Mundi" is a short haunting piece with a variety of sounds coming and going.

"Revelations Ch.16 Vs 9-12" features some cool sounding mellotron flute along with an experimental soundscape. It is quite majestic at times even though the subject matter from these versus is very bleak. "Take To The Skies" is another cool soundscape with an urgent rhythm with plenty of organ. "Death May Be Your Santa Claus(Reprise)" is longer and different sounding from the first track it's named after. Dramatic spoken words with a freaked out soundscape as mellotron also helps out. It kicks in before a minute to an uptempo groove. Mellotron flute later. "Funeral" ends it all and it's really orchestral sounding to start but it settles when the vocals join in. It picks up and it's quite catchy here as those orchestral sounds return.

Well if you want innovative and adventerous look no further than this album. It has to be heard to be believed. Not for the faint of heart. Great album!

 Chillum (*) by SECOND HAND album cover Studio Album, 1971
2.30 | 21 ratings

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Chillum (*)
Second Hand Psychedelic/Space Rock

Review by Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

3 stars Like an insane instrumental Canterbury band soundtracking the end of the world, `Chillum' is a difficult but hugely fascinating album that will easily divide listeners. Some will relish it's noisy tuneless chaos, thinking it was way ahead of it's time, others a total useless mess of bad ideas that will make them flee in terror for a safer listen! I fall somewhere right in the middle - one listen I'll find it an endlessly intriguing psychedelic knockout, the next time it'll drive me up the wall and I'll remove the album in disgust. Try not to be listening to the album too loud if you start to react negatively to it, as it may cause quite a violent reaction in you!

After a fairly rubbish comical introduction, the band charges head-first into the aptly titled `Brain Strain', a 21 minute side-long piece which may be the breaking point to a first time listener. A noisy and seemingly directionless freak-out, filled with a million musical ideas that occasionally work brilliantly, and other times fall a little flat, it does showcase some interesting and talented musicians. The endless extended fuzzy and scuzzy organ by Ken Elliot reminds me of a more unhinged and deranged version of Canterbury band Egg, and that sound dominates much of this track. Tony McGill's guitar work is frequently tuneless, bendy and shrill, but also quite imaginative. He comes across like a more deranged and sloppy Syd Barrett on the improv workouts on Pink Floyd's debut or the `Tonite Let's All Make Love In London' LP. George Hart's bass playing has a hypnotic and dreamy quality, frequently plodding and monotonous but also very fluid and loose. It's a bit of a stretch to say it helps the music really groove in places, because moments like that only last a few seconds before the next aimless direction kicks in. I feel Kieran O'Connor's drum-work and percussion really steals this piece. Frantic, fiery and lively, with the musician quickly adapting back and forth to the different directions and musical paths the album treads down. He really helps hold the piece together - as much as possible, anyway.

Side Two's all too brief `Land Of A Thousand Dreams' is a brief musical lullaby with restful Mellotron and pretty piano. It then segues into a very repetitive and mostly mundane percussion piece called `Too Many Bananas' that barely changes for it's four minute running time. The ten minute `Yes! We Have No Pajamas' is a very loose but oddly coherent workout. There's a real energetic groove to this one, with lots of knockout Hammond and pounding drum-work. Some very laid-back, almost bluesy guitar plays over some lively and melodic bass. Actually quite an upbeat piece, in a few brief moments it reminds me of a messier version of Focus. Probably for wary listeners, this track may be the best place to start with this album, but in some way it doesn't prepare you for the mind-breaking noise of the first side. `Promenade Des Anglaises' is a simple but lovely acoustic ditty with gentle percussion, some slight tasteful keys and Mellotron washes. A nice comedown to wrap the album on.

I really appreciate that the `Chillum' album is totally instrumental, as I found the previous band Second Hand's work was somewhat let down by comical vocals that were obviously hugely amusing to the band members themselves, but sabotaged their potentially interesting ideas to listeners. I do find that, for all it's chaos, noise and seemingly random arrangements, there's a very interesting and frequently exciting album here. The band seems to relish playing in such an unhinged and random fashion on the first side, while the second half shows their music is not completely devoid of a good tune or melody.

Three and a half stars!

 Chillum (*) by SECOND HAND album cover Studio Album, 1971
2.30 | 21 ratings

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Chillum (*)
Second Hand Psychedelic/Space Rock

Review by Dobermensch
Prog Reviewer

1 stars This is a condemnation, not a celebration of prog.

Clearly 'Chillum' is an improvised jam displaying no structure or finesse whatsoever. Ugly, tuneless guitars, random drums, and a bass guitar that's played by someone who's obviously wearing a pair of boxing gloves, displays all of what's worst from the early 70's.

These guys play their instruments like they've never been in possession of a pair of hands.

This is an directionless, poorly recorded album and I find it very hard to believe that these same guys went on to produce one of the best, most bonkers prog albums the following year with the fantastic 'Death May Be Your Santa Claus'.

Listening to this prequel however, is the equivalent of rubbing vinegar into the eyes of kittens. As soon as I turn it on I can't wait for it to finish. Totally unstructured, where you can clearly hear the hesitancy between breaks as the band try and work out where to go next.

While writing the above review I worried that I'd get so annoyed I'd give myself an aneurysm.

If truth be told this may well be the poorest recording I've assessed in the Archives in over 200 reviews. Only 'Hairy Chapter's - Eyes'. comes close. At its conclusion I'm left with nothing but a cloud of depression like a nuclear winter hanging over my shoulders.

At last...It's Over...I can go to sleep now...

 Death May Be Your Santa Claus   by SECOND HAND album cover Studio Album, 1971
3.83 | 51 ratings

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Death May Be Your Santa Claus
Second Hand Psychedelic/Space Rock

Review by Dobermensch
Prog Reviewer

5 stars This is something of mental recording. One of the queerest rock albums I've ever heard and unless I'm much mistaken, 'Hanging on an Eyelid' is used in the excellent Donald pleasance horror film 'Death Line' Who are these people?... Are they completely mashed?...Which bands are they related to? I'm left with nothing but questions. There's bits of Beefheart, Out of Focus, Arthur Brown and early 70's Krautrock present - but it's got that indefinable British quirkiness about it that only they can do. It's colourful, cheery and downright weird in parts. It's also very difficult to describe. Such a pity they only recorded one dreadful album under the name of 'Chillum' after this.
 Chillum (*) by SECOND HAND album cover Studio Album, 1971
2.30 | 21 ratings

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Chillum (*)
Second Hand Psychedelic/Space Rock

Review by stefro
Prog Reviewer

2 stars Featuring enough aimless psychedelic jamming to fill several albums twice over, this self-titled release from early-seventies rockers Chillum manages to delight and frustrate in equal measure. Originally called Second Hand, but reverting to the name Chillum after the relative failure of their 1971 'Second Hand' album, this ambitious and eclectic four-piece seemed to suffer from a complete inability to settle down into one dominant style or genre. 'Chillum' features some bravura moments of musicianship, but it's an uneven, at times rather crude mess of an album, featuring a plethora of different moods and textures that juxtapose badly. From the percussion-heavy assault of 'Land Of A Thousand Dreams' to the epic, freaked-out noodling of the 21-minute long 'Brain Strain', the album is a sonic shanty-town of conflicting ideas that fails to create a coherent whole. One suspects that maybe the band were under the influence of certain, mind-enhancing substances, which is no bad thing, but just like listening to someone drone on about their drug experiences 'Chillum' proves to be a rather dull listen. STEFAN TURNER, LONDON, 2010
 Chillum (*) by SECOND HAND album cover Studio Album, 1971
2.30 | 21 ratings

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Chillum (*)
Second Hand Psychedelic/Space Rock

Review by Brendan

2 stars I don't have the heart to give this album 1 star, and maybe it is better than that anyway. I have the Chillum ...... plus version, which is much better. It has more songs, but no matter what, this album doesn't have any great songs on it. The track 'brain strain' is a big instrumental jam, but it is just that, a 'jam', not a structured song with any ideas. It is not a bad song, and whoever was playing was obviously very good, and one of the better songs here, but nevertheless a song that lacks any real meaning. I believe 'yes we have no Pyjamas!' is ten minutes more of the same jam. 'The land of a thousand dreams' is an interesting track, it features some 'snoring' I believe, and some pretty good keyboards and other sounds as well. That's about all you can say about this album.... one bonus track, celebration, was reworked into 'Dance of the Eloi' on the 'Things to come' album, but that is a better version than the one here. The rest is just jamming, silly songs like 'Introduction by Brain Surgeons from the Royal Free Hospital' and a total lack of inspiration.
 Reality by SECOND HAND album cover Studio Album, 1968
3.06 | 28 ratings

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Reality
Second Hand Psychedelic/Space Rock

Review by Brendan

2 stars It kind of pains me to give a small rating to this album. The tracks Mainliner and Reality are ambitious prog/psych epics with some very good instrumental sections.

But these guys were a new band just taking their first steps.They were barely 18 when laying this stuff down. Most of this stuff is 60's pop-rock, but really quirky. In the remastered CD I have Ken gives a little detail in the notes about what the songs are about. Well he may know what he's saying, but I can't figure out what he's saying. He's a weak singer in the first place and when his vocals get lost in the mix that doesn't help either. The best of the quirky pop-rock gems is the opening cut 'fairy-tales', some that ensue have good riffs and a semi-respectable chorus, but to over-analyse this album too much is silly; this was their 'starting point', and they were supposed to build on this. Remember the first Genesis album? You get my point.

Some people have come back to this album and claimed it to be a 'masterpiece', which is wrong. Like the music critic says in the liner notes "Second Hand are a group with a lot of potential". This is not a group 'at it's peak', yet the liner notes where Ken says that this is a wonderful album and it failed 'cause good music doesn't succeed is a bit rich. No sense of self-criticism or reflection? Maybe if you had done that, you might have realised that this music was very flawed. It has a lot of potential and has buckets and spades of artistic ambition, which is a good thing, but the band aren't gelling well, and the music sounds 'drunk' and the lyrics are very hard to understand. Work on those problems and you might have come up with some winners, oh well you released another four albums, but a lot of the bands' problems never went away.

Still, this album shows the band has a lot of potential, A LOT, but without proper guidance or record company interest, they never really achieved the potential.

 Death May Be Your Santa Claus   by SECOND HAND album cover Studio Album, 1971
3.83 | 51 ratings

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Death May Be Your Santa Claus
Second Hand Psychedelic/Space Rock

Review by loserboy
Prog Reviewer

3 stars Second Hand were a rather obscure psych-prog band form London who released this strange little album in the early 70's. I will admit right up front that I don't know a ton about this strange band but I do know that I really like this album. This album was recommended to me by a faithful reader of this website and I am very pleased that I picked it up. Musically this band would be a mix of Atomic Rooster, Arthur Brown and Brian Auger with the zaniness of Zappa tossed in for good measure. This album is loaded with lots of great keyboard work (organ, mellotron, piano) as well as bass and drum interplay. I would not recommend this album for the novice prog/psych head but for those who are looking for something completely different then you may want to track this rare gem down.
 Reality by SECOND HAND album cover Studio Album, 1968
3.06 | 28 ratings

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Reality
Second Hand Psychedelic/Space Rock

Review by UMUR
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

3 stars "Reality" is the debut full-length studio album by UK psychedelic/progressive rock act Second Hand. The album was released in late 1968 through Polydor Records. The origins of Second Hand began in 1965 with three school friends forming a band which was initially called The Next Collection. When Polydor Records signed the band they had changed their name to The Moving Finger, but while recording "Reality" they found out that another band had already taken the name and they were therefore once again forced to change their name. This time to Second Hand. During the recording of "Reality", bassist Arthur Kitchener left Second Hand after recording about half of the songs, and new bassist Nick South therefore recorded the remaining bass tracks.

Stylistically the music is heavily influenced by hard rock/blues rock bands like The Jimi Hendrix Experience and Cream but in addition to that heavy guitar dominated sound Ken Elliottīs vintage keyboards/organ are a trademark of Second Handīs sound. Elliott is also the lead vocalist and he has a pretty standard and time typical blues rock singing style. He occasionally sings more melodic and less raw when the songs are also less heavy and guitar driven. The songwriting is decent but most tracks are relatively straight forward rock/blues rock songs which arenīt anything out of the ordinary for the genre or the time. The exceptions are the "Mainliner" and "Reality" tracks which together form a 15 minutes long suite, which features a lot of string arrangements, chors, flute playing, and progressive songwriting ideas. Itīs arguably one of the earliest examples of a progressive rock track (although artists like The Moody Blues and Procol Harum also had contemporary releases out which flirted with progressive rock), but other than that suite "Reality" isnīt a progressive rock album.

Second Hand would eventually travel further down the experimental/progressive rock route with their follow-up release "Death May Be Your Santa Claus" (1971), and while "Reality" isnīt nearly as exciting or as adventurous and bold as the successor, itīs still a decent psychedelic rock album with a single but significant nod towards progressive rock. A 3 star (60%) rating is warranted.

 Death May Be Your Santa Claus   by SECOND HAND album cover Studio Album, 1971
3.83 | 51 ratings

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Death May Be Your Santa Claus
Second Hand Psychedelic/Space Rock

Review by UMUR
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

3 stars "Death May Be Your Santa Claus" is the second full-length studio album by UK psychedelic/progressive rock act Second Hand. The album was released in April 1971 through Mushroom Records. Itīs the successor to "Reality" from late 1968. Disappoinged by the lack of label support, Second Hand left Polydor Records after the release of "Reality". They toured Europe several times trying to gain attention through playing live but had lineup changes during the period which disrupted their progress. During this period Second Hand befriended producer/record owner Vic Keary who set up the Mushroom Records label to offer a platform for Second Hand to release "Death May Be Your Santa Claus".

One of the aforementioned lineup changes meant that Second Hand went into the studio without a guitarist and "Death May Be Your Santa Claus" therefore only features guitar on one track which is performed by sessions musician Tony McGill. Stylistically the material on "Death May Be Your Santa Claus" is an adventurous, technically well performed, and sometimes almost comedic circus atmosphere type of psychedelic/progressive rock. Iīm immediately reminded of The Crazy World of Arthur Brown/Kingdom Come (especially the 1971 "Galactic Zoo Dossier" album). Lead vocalist Rob Elliot has a madman/crazy loon/entertainer vocal style which is reminiscent of Brownīs ditto. The music is otherwise dominated by Ken Elliottīs organ and mellotron playing, especially his organ is omnipresent. The organ playing is creative and with his occasional use of the mellotron this makes for an exciting listen. The rhythm section is also well playing and drives the music forward.

Considering the relatively mediocre quality psychdelic rock of the "Reality" album, Second Hand explode with creativity, unconventional songwriting, and high level musical performances for the duration of 12 tracks, 44:03 minutes long album. If you didnīt know it, you would never have guessed itīs the same band playing. "Death May Be Your Santa Claus" features an organic, powerful, and detailed sound production which is actually quite impressive. As a result the material is given the perfect conditions to shine...and shine it does. If I have to put in a slight complaint it would be that the album features some parts which are just experimental organ noodling and itīs definitely the more structured parts of the album which are most interesting. When that is said "Death May Be Your Santa Claus" is still a high quality psychedelic/progressive rock album from Second Hand and a 3.5 star (70%) rating is deserved.

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