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Symphonic Prog • United States


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This band hails from Florida with influences of early GENESIS and GENTLE GIANT as well. It was formed in 1976 by Rick Leonard, Rodney Best, Doroccas, J. David Boyko, and Gary Chambers. Excellent vocals by Doroccas are the stronger characteristics here. Hard Rock driven passages are constant on this unique album of this fabulous band. BABYLON is firmly set in the ways of the classic 70's bands, with great analogue keyboard work and extraordinarily adept musicianship. They released only one album in 1978 and broke up that same year. They became very popular among Prog fans after its re-issue on CD by Syn-Phonic. Two live albums (low quality) were released by Syn-Phonic after their breakup which contains their entire track list from their album plus several songs which were not on that original release.

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3.95 | 101 ratings
Babylon
1978

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2.71 | 5 ratings
Night Over Never
1989
3.60 | 5 ratings
Better Conditions For The Dead
1989

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 Babylon by BABYLON album cover Studio Album, 1978
3.95 | 101 ratings

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Babylon
Babylon Symphonic Prog

Review by siLLy puPPy
Collaborator PSIKE & JR/F/Canterbury Teams

4 stars One of the few examples of progressive rock emerging out of the Tampa Bay area of Florida which would become more famous for the explosion of death metal bands in the following decade. BABYLON formed in 1976 and played together only three years and released this eponymous album in 1978 and like many prog bands of the late 70s saw diminishing returns in this type of music being drowned out by angry punkers and disco balls in roller skating rinks and called it a day. They left behind this one album that sounds something like a lost Genesis album from the days between "Nursery Crime" and "Foxtrot." Doroccas does his best Gabriel impression and the rest of the band pay tribute to the most aggressive aspects of early Genesis while maintaining the pastoral "Trespass" type sound as well.

Although the liner notes claim Van Der Graaf Generator, Gentle Giant, King Crimson and others as sources for inspiration and to be fair there are other influences to a lesser degree, it is really something of an early neo-prog album to my ears being almost exclusively dedicated to Genesis worship, but what a pleasant stroll down the musical memories of yesteryear this one is. All four tracks are lengthy clocking in at over 7 minutes and the delivery is some of the most seriously delicious prog frenzies as textured keyboards layer moods and time signatures bombastically feed the serious demoralized prog lover of the days when their favorite bands were incrementally fleeing financial hegira and commingling with the pop world.

It is so true that this is hardly the most original music in the world but it is just beautifully played from beginning to end and if you count this as proto-neo-prog, albeit fairly complex then it fits right in with what Pallas, Twelfth Night, IQ and Marillion would pick up a few years down the road. Personally i find Genesis very hit and miss and actually prefer the bands they inspired in many cases over their very own output and this beautiful BABYLON album scratches the itch for theatrical pompousness that Genesis was famous for but smooth it over with slightly more suave vocals and more complex and virtuosic musical accompaniment.

This is the album Genesis might have made if they had stuck to their earlier formula but as we all know they were always eager to invent a new sound and then move on to other musical arenas leaving ideas and musical worlds that needed further development. BABYLON took full advantage of this era of musical ideas and ran away with them and like many prog bands of the day who saw no future in it condenses an entire musical career into one album. A very satisfying album that i really love to spin lately although it's not quite inventive enough to earn more than four stars. My copy has the newer album cover which replaced the grey human with a grey alien and its blackened oval eyes.

 Night Over Never by BABYLON album cover Live, 1989
2.71 | 5 ratings

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Night Over Never
Babylon Symphonic Prog

Review by Andis

2 stars As Hifi-klubben says: "Bad sound kills great music".

This is a live recording that has the same quality as you would get if you recorded a concert with a telephone, standing in the audience. The sound quality is on a level that this album should never have been released at all. I can understand why this is released though, it's a long lost band that only released one proper album and here they are with a live recording, for the archives. It should have a warning sign on the cover "beware, bad soundquality".

The LP release is otherwise really good, lots of extra goodies thrown in. A nice booklet with pictures of the band, lyrics and with a japanese obi.

If you can get past the awful sound quality, it's easy to hear how great this band really was. The songs are long and have all the signatures of great music, great melodies, great chops and lots of twists and turns. Two songs that I was not familiar with before turned out to be really great composition-wise. The band have all the marks of fellow north american bands like Pentwater, Mirthrander etc with a very heavy leaning towards Genesis.

The music: great! The sound: awful!

Decide for yourself.

 Babylon by BABYLON album cover Studio Album, 1978
3.95 | 101 ratings

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Babylon Symphonic Prog

Review by apps79
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator

3 stars Babylon hailed from Central Florida and were found by a bunch of musicians, influenced by the likes of Genesis and Happy The Man, these were lead singer Doroccus, guitarist David Boyko, drummer Rodney Best, keyboardist Gary Chambers and bassist Rick Leonard.All came from local area groups and upon their formation they played live with strong theatrical colors and multi-image projectors.They recorded their only album in the fall of 1977 at Studios 70.This was released the next year on the unknown Mehum label, propably connected with the group's members.

Babylon played a theatrical Progressive Rock exactly on the thin line between the fading Classic Symphonic Rock of the 70's and the upcoming British movement of Neo Prog.They do sound extremely close to compatriots NORTH STAR and British veterans IQ first steps, where the huge analog sound has been replaced by the constant use of synthesizers.However, stylistically the album is strongly rooted in the old GENESIS approach, featuring four long, symphonic tracks with expressive vocals and notable keyboard textures with some smooth guitar playing around.Moreover the music alternates between pompous, instrumental moves and more laid-back, almost romantic soundscapes with melodic synthesizer lines and mellow electric guitars.Some complex themes are still in the menu with extreme, dual keyboard acrobatics and impressive Classical-influenced interludes.Doroccus' sounds a lot like another PETER GABRIEL-wannabe, yet his voice is very charming and pleasant to the ear.While GENESIS seem Babylon's most apparent influence, there are also these dual keyboard experiments, that flirt with the sound of HAPPY THE MAN, which is the only US band I recall when listening to Babylon.

Very good Symphonic Rock, certainly against the trend of the time.Not original, not groundbreaking, but very enjoyable, passionate and well-executed.Strongly recommended...3.5 stars.

 Babylon by BABYLON album cover Studio Album, 1978
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Babylon Symphonic Prog

Review by VanVanVan
Prog Reviewer

4 stars Along with Starcastle, Babylon often get brought up as "a band that sounds like Yes." While this is certainly true, it's also a bit unfair-while Babylon has a lot of obvious Yes influences, they also have a great sound in and of themselves. Their single album, while certainly flawed, is also an awesome time-capsule of late 70s prog: certainly influenced by those that came before but also pushing ahead. If you're a fan of Yes and want to hear some relative contemporaries who were influenced by them then this is a great album for you. If, however, you're sick of bands who sound too much like classic-era Yes, you may wish to look elsewhere.

"The Mote In God's Eye" gets the album off to a bit of a slow start, with extremely minimalistic keyboards and a bit of percussion serving as the entirety of the music behind some slightly monotone vocals. This opening section of the song is extremely sparse, but it still kind of works, though it does go on a bit long. When the song really picks up, however, is about 3 minutes in, as the instrumentation fills out, the tempo picks up, and the music begins to sound almost scarily similar to Yes. Again, this isn't a bad thing; I personally have no problems with bands that sound like other bands. However, the similarity is quite astounding, with most of the instrumental music on the back half of the track sounding to me like it could have come straight off of Tales for Topographic Oceans. "The Mote In God's Eye" isn't a bad song at all, but I will admit that it's probably my least favorite of the 4 tracks that make up this album.

Unlike "The Mote In God's Eye," "Before the Fall" starts off amazingly. Immediately launching into a mysterious, psychedelic keyboard melody, the vocals are great here as well, with a lot of very good use of harmony. The extreme Yes influence of the previous track is mostly gone here as well; though there are some similarities in the synth parts it certainly doesn't come off as clone-like. Like "The Mote In God's Eye," this track is heavily keyboard-led, with several great solos appearing in the instrumental middle section of this track and towards the end as well. Especially notable is an awesome major-key reprise of the first motif that really pulls the whole song together. "Before the Fall" is a great track and if the whole album was this good it would likely be a 5-star disk.

"Dreamfish" more or less ventures back into Yes territory, with the vocals especially sounding more like Yes on this track then they have on either of the previous two. "Dreamfish" on the whole is more uptempo and overall more frenetic than the minimal "The Mote?" and the somewhat slower "Before the Fall," with the vocals practically delivered at auctioneer speed and the music equally as energetic. Even when the motif changes midway through the track it doesn't lose any steam-I'm amazed the vocalist can even breathe with how fast he's spitting out lyrics. There's a decent amount of ELP influence here as well, especially in a lot of the instrumentation, and the sheer ability of the musicians here makes me wonder what could have come of this band had they released more than one album.

"Cathedral of the Mary Ruin" finishes off this self-titled album. Beginning with a very rhythmically complex series of keyboard parts, the track calms down a bit for a dreamier vocal section which is followed by some absolutely gorgeous piano playing. The track picks up again with about 2 minutes left in the song to launch into a bombastic, ELP-esque series of solos that eventually give way to the vocals again. Unfortunately, I don't think "Cathedral of the Mary Ruin" finishes rather weakly, just kind of fading out without any real sense of resolution. I don't have a problem with the fade-out ending, but this one doesn't resolve very well and it's a little underwhelming, especially for the last track.

Personally, I find this album very enjoyable. There's enough Yes sound to be an interesting listen from an historical perspective, not to mention that for the most part the music is pretty darn good in its own right. Definitely not the most original release but still a great listen and a bit of a lost gem from the late 70s.

4/5

 Babylon by BABYLON album cover Studio Album, 1978
3.95 | 101 ratings

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Babylon
Babylon Symphonic Prog

Review by Luis de Sousa

5 stars A Landmark of an Epoch

In 1975 Neu!, one of the reference Krautrock bands, recorded their third LP which included two tracks that added screeching vocals to their habitual guitar/drums metronomic sound. This would provide the backbone for a new back-to-roots musical movement in Britain that aimed pretty much at the opposite of progressive rock, a truly cultural regression. The irreverence and novelty of Punk Rock was so appealing to record companies that they soon forgot about other forms of music. As a parenthesis it should be noted that this did not impacted Progressive music alone, the break-out of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal was delayed 3 to 4 years because of this obsession with Punk. Some established Progressive bands where able to pursue their ways for a few more years, but for new bands there simply wasn't space; Progressive music entered its Dark Ages.

Elsewhere this wasn't the case and while in Britain Prog was coming to an halt, by the second half of the 1970s in other places new bands where emerging. In France, for instance, there were groups like Shylock or Pentacle, in Germany there were bands like Novalis, in Portugal there was Tantra. And in the United States Progressive music was only now really taking off, with a multitude of musically exquisite bands coming to be at different places, Happy The Man, Earth & Fire, Mirthandir, to name a few. All these bands have in common the fact that they show up after the initial phase of Progressive music that lived up much from the first contact with new technologies by popular artists. That phase of experimentation was done with and hence Progressive music was by now much more an Art-by-the-Art thing than anything else. The technology itself was evolving with the introduction of new synthesizers; most of these bands didn't use the Mini-Moog, the Hammond and scarcely the Mellotron, which even when it appears was now much smoother. Guitars were used mostly as lead instruments, rarely appearing with rhythmic functions and now with much smoother and defined tones. In terms of recording there is also a clear evolution from just 4 or 5 years earlier; high quality recordings become more of a norm than an exception. These bands, though largely unknown, produced a further step in Progressive music, bridging the early 1970s dawn to the Neo-Prog in the 1980s.

The Album

The first, eponymous and last album by Babylon is to me a quintessential work of this epoch. It certainly owes much to the Progressive precursors, especially Steve Hackett (yes more him than Genesis itself) but at the same time achieving a distinctive sound, even distinct among it's late 1970s peers. This comes first and foremost from a pretentious vocalist, whom doesn't waste a single opportunity for a theatrical performance. To flamboyant vocals add unconventional lyrics, whose literary quality I'll leave for a native English speaker to assess; love it or loath it, this combination of vocals and lyrics certainly adds something else to the music. And a second distinctive element of Babylon's sound is the drumming, well above average for a rock band and much closer to jazz, easily creating variate temporal textures that promote the complexity and the overall richness of the music.

There isn't much point in differentiating between individual tracks, I have pretty much the same to say about each. Complex compositions that travel across many different moments, with swift directional changes that are very well accomplished. The listener is totally engaged, always looking for what may come ahead. There are moments where only one instrument provides a footing melody (mostly the guitar) while all the others improvise around it, in a jazz-over-symph mixture that's really sweet to the hears. But while going at great lengths on improvisation the band always manages to keep focus, either by swiftly evolving to a more solid melody or by introducing a tempo intermission that resets the overall musical direction. And this goes on for the full four tracks of the album, building to a very solid recording that is greatly appealing as an ensemble.

Invariably, bands like Babylon had an early end to their careers. With the pressure from Punk on the one side and the 1980 Economic crisis on the other, record deals were nowhere to find. The creation of MTV in 1982 brought the final blow to those that might still have been standing at the time.

The Veredict

Babylon is a record that manages to be greatly complex but engaging at the same time, which by itself is a major achievement. Adding to this is the overall balance of the recording, its just plain good, there are no week moments to point out, thus producing an LP that is enjoyable in its entirety. I have no doubt in classifying this record as a Masterpiece, not only for its pure quality but also for being a reference of a musical epoch. There's always some discomfort in classifying a record well above the Comunity'a average, but I believe this comes from the unusual complexity of this LP, which requires a good deal of attentive listening before it can be fully enjoyed. Perhaps Babylon just needs a bit more of attention.

 Babylon by BABYLON album cover Studio Album, 1978
3.95 | 101 ratings

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Babylon
Babylon Symphonic Prog

Review by BrainStillLife

5 stars This is the best album that has come from USA apart from the three albums Happy The Man produced. Then there are others like Fireballet and Yezda Urfa and I mustn't forget Zappa. Anyways this album is pure gold, 4 excellent songs which all feature enjoyable singing and lyrics by Doroccas the USA-Gabriel. The Mote In God's Eye is the most innovative and personal track on the album. It sounds least like Genesis, especially Doroccas sounds really individual. Also the beat that repeats itself for a couple of minutes brings Marillions Garden Party to mind. Indeed this album posesses some neo-prog influences or should I say proto neo-prog. Musically this is not the ELP kind of virtuosity but still musically complex and at some points fast music that evolves constantly. What a fine album!
 Babylon by BABYLON album cover Studio Album, 1978
3.95 | 101 ratings

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Babylon
Babylon Symphonic Prog

Review by BrufordFreak
Collaborator Jazz-Rock / Fusion / Canterbury Team

5 stars This has been a wonderful find thanks to ProgArchives. Though definitely a band that gets its inspiration and chops from VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR and GENESIS, they did an amazing job of making songs for this album that are fresh, interesting, and memorable--even hauntingly so.

1. "The Mote God's Eye" (sounds like VDGG with Peter HAMMILL's theatric voice but with a GENESIS "Cinema Show" like structure and instrumental sound--especially in the instrumental sections. Lead singer "Dorrocus" is an extraordinary force of theatrics--carved much in the same mold as perahps the greatest prog epic storyteller of all, Peter GABRIEL. His voice and styling is almost an exact copy of Matthew PARMENTER. Awesome song, though it cuts out as if it was originally much longer. (10/10)

2. "Before the Fall" (10:56) puts DOROCCUS and the band in total Gabriel-era GENESIS land. The arpeggiated guitar chords in foundation, the drum sound and style, the keyboard leads are so GENESIS 1973! Even the volume pedal controlled guitar leads are pure Steve HACKETT. And the more delicate vocal approach is so different from the previous song--illustrative of what a talent this man was! The song's shift at 4:30 is also right out of the GENESIS playbook--even if the fast-flanged guitar is less Hackett. Again, at 5:45 there is another shift that is so GENESIS! And yet this remains fresh and so enjoyable! Much better than listening to any of FISH-era MARILLION's stuff. If there is a flaw with this song--and the album as a whole--it is the quiet, almost muddy mix of the sound. (9/10)

3. "Dreamfish" (9:15) is another song emulating Peter GABRIEL-era GENESIS--though some of it feels as if it could be later--Wind and Wuthering or even And Then There Were Three. DOROCCUS' vocal performance is closer to Peter HAMMILL or even RUSH's Geddy LEE this time round. If this were a GENESIS song it would have been one of the songs cut from public viewing as it just doesn't muster enough cohesiveness or flow--it feels unfinished or rushed. This despite the fact that the lyrics and story are interesting. (8/10)

4. "Cathedral of the Mary Ruin" (7:40) is actually my favorite song on the album because of its originality. Though a Matthew PARMENTER-like voice and vocal performance comes from Dorrocus, the song's fast, staccato piano-based nature and the way the tempo is imitated/matched by Dorrocus' vocal are mesmerizing. The band sounds so tight, so virtuosic on this one. And so original. It ends a little weakly, but, man those first three minutes are incredible! (10/10)

Though this is a rather short album, it packs quite a punch. Also, the complexity of its compositions and high quality of its musicianship, as well as the amazing theatric talent of lead singer Dorroccus make this album to my mind a pure masterpiece. It's too bad that we heard no more from this talented band after this lone release. Definitely one of those gems hidden in obscurity.

 Babylon by BABYLON album cover Studio Album, 1978
3.95 | 101 ratings

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Babylon
Babylon Symphonic Prog

Review by Tarcisio Moura
Prog Reviewer

3 stars What? A symphonic prog band from Florida? In 1978? PA never ceases to surprise me! I had never heard of this band and I was quite curious about it when I saw some of the reviews. It seems that their forte was playing live with lots of multi media stuff and theatrics. Since I was unable to get a hold of one of their live CDs I had to rely entirely on Babylon´s solo studio offering. And it is not bad! Ok, it is far from original, but they did write some very fine tunes in the mid period Genesis mold. Put some Yes (specially the bass parts) and Vand Der Graaf Generator influences in the mix and voilá: you have Babylon.

Hearing this CD I get the feeling that this group was very promising. If the sound is maybe too Genesis-copy, the vocals are not. And even the instrumental parts show that they coud get pretty far giving time and opportunity. But, alas, this was not to be. In many aspects they remid me of Marillion, a group that started doing something similar. Like Babylon Marillion sounded a lot like early Genesis (even in the vocal department) in the beginning but soon found their sound and became one fo the greatest prog acts of the world. I can only wonder if this talented bunch could go that far. For they could, unlike most other Genesis clones, write real melodic and outstanding songs.

There is only four tracks in this very short album (a little over 34 minutes of playing time). But they are very fine ones. Production is quite good for the time too. The ten minute epic Before th eFall is the highlight of this CD to me, excellent tune with beautiful Hackett -like guitar lines.

Conclusion: a very good surprise. If you´re into 70´s symphonic classic stuff, this is surely one you should listen to, as long as you don´t mind the fact that their influences were still quite evident in their music. Since I´m a huge fan of Genesis, I´m delighted with what I heard. I can´t really say it is essential in any way but still very good. So my rating is somewhere 3 and 3,5 stars.

 Babylon by BABYLON album cover Studio Album, 1978
3.95 | 101 ratings

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Babylon
Babylon Symphonic Prog

Review by Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer

4 stars BABYLON was formed in central Florida in 1976, they were influenced by the usual suspects like GENESIS, KING CRIMSON, GENTLE GIANT, VDGG, HAPPY THE MAN and many others. When they performed a concert it was like multimedia extravaganza, encompassing film, large screen multi-image projection, theatrics and audience participation. This was their only studio album released in 1978. It's very GENESIS-like instrumentally but the singer sounds nothing like Gabriel, in fact he sounds a lot like Phideaux. These guys play complex and challenging music. The original album cover had normal eyes looking at us while on the cd re-issue they've changed it to alien eyes. The cd re-issue was done by Greg Walker and his Syn-Phonic label in 1999. It was also re-mixed and remastered then by the late Kevin Gilbert who knew a thing or two about GENESIS. The sound quality is excellent by the way.

"The Mote In God's Eye" has vocals after a minute and they're almost spoken as we get synths and a beat in the background. It kicks in around 2 1/2 minutes and it's GENESIS-like a minute later where we get an instrumental section. Some wild synths before 5 minutes and the vocals return a minute later. "Before The Fall" is kind of dreamy and laid back with synths, bass, light drums and reserved vocals. The vocals come and go. It's GENESIS-like around 5 minutes then we get a change as the song becomes more dynamic. I like the drumming during the final minute.

"Dreamfish" has lots of synths, drums and bass to open then we quickly get a calm as the tempo continues to change at will until these fast paced vocals arrive 2 minutes in. The bass is great here as well as the drumming. Again GENESIS comes to mind as the song plays out. Sounds pulse before 6 minutes then the vocals return and they again are fast paced. Themes are repeated. "Cathedral Of The Mary Ruin" is GENESIS-like early with keyboards and vocals. The drums become prominant. I like the vocals and sound after 2 minutes. The vocals turn theatrical and the sound gets heavier 3 minutes in. It's mellow again before 4 1/2 minutes with vocals. Nice. Again themes are repeated.

A solid 4 stars for this lost American classic.

 Babylon by BABYLON album cover Studio Album, 1978
3.95 | 101 ratings

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Babylon
Babylon Symphonic Prog

Review by Squire Jaco

4 stars I recall attending various upstate New York college "mixers" in the late 1970's and watching bands like Babylon play their covers of Yes, Genesis and Rush, sprinkled in with their own original material. I was thankful then that there were bands like this that were courageously playing the kind of music that I (and few others, it seemed) enjoyed; and amazed that some attendees found a way to dance to it! ;-)

This cd is less than 35 minutes long, and that hurts its overall rating some. But if you enjoy other obscure U.S. prog bands from this era such as Hands, Yezda Urfa, Mirthrandir, Cathedral or Arabesque, GET IT. Pound for pound, this is one of the best progressive rock cd's I've ever heard.

First, the vocals and musicianship here are top-notch. Second, the sound production is surprisingly fantastic! I think the compositions are great; even the transitions from one section to another seem to flow so naturally. Soaring keyboards, interesting guitar solos, a gifted drummer (are there overdubs on the last 2 minutes of "Before the Fall"?), and a thick melodic bass line are my basic ingredients for ecstasy. These guys nailed it. I wish there was more... (4.5 stars)

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