TORTOISE

Post Rock/Math rock • United States


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Chicago-based Tortoise have been around since the early 90s. The nucleus of the band is John Herndon, John McEntire, Dan Bitney and Doug McCombs, essentially a double rhythm section although all four are accomplished multi instrumentalists. The band play intricate, highly structured instrumental music that is based around mallet percussion, basses, drums, guitar and keyboards, with extensive use of synthesisers and studio effects.

Their recording career took off in 1994 with the release of their debut album, which was recorded as a 5 piece with Bundy K Brown. The album was well received, but shortly afterwards founder member Brown left and was replaced by former Slint musician Dave Pajo. This line up made the excellent Millions Now Living Will Never Die, the first half of which is a remarkable 21 minute piece called Djed. The band expanded to a 6 piece with guitarist Jeff Parker for their next album, TNT. This third album was recorded over 10 months in a computer equipped studio, and is a dazzling 65 minute collection that is full of hidden nuances and subtlelties. Following this album Pajo left to work on his solo career, and the remaining 5 piece has since made 2 albums, Standards and It's All Around You. All the musicians are also involved in other projects, notably Isotope 217, The Sea and Cake, Chicago Underground and Brokeback. John McEntire has acted as the band's in-house producer, and has also produced acts as diverse as Stereolab (whose Dots and Loops album was partly a collaborative effort with Tortoise) and Wilco, among many others.

Although generally classified as post rock, the music of Tortoise is hard to pin down. They don't play the kind of lengthy drones with enormous crescendoes favoured by bands like Godspeed You! Black Emperor and Explosions In The Sky, but generally favour shorter, rhythmically complex pieces. Some critics have detected a jazz influence, perhaps because of their extensive use of vibes, but there is little room for improvisation in their music and their painstaking studio work is at odds with normal jazz practice. There is a strong influence of minimalist composers like Steve Reich, Philip Glass and Terry Riley discernible throughout their work, and it is this coupled with the core member's background in the hardcore/alternative scene which probably comes closest to summing their music up. - Chris Gleeson (Syzygy)


See also:
- Slint




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Discography:
Tortoise, studio album (1994)
Rhythms, Resolutions & Clusters, studio album (1995)
Millions Now Living Will Never Die, studio album (1996)
A Digest Compendium of the Tortoise's World, compillation (1996)
Remixed, studio album (1997)
TNT, studio album (1998)
In the Fishtank 5 (with The Ex), EP (1999)
Standards, studio album (2001)
It's All Around You, studio album (2004)
The Brave and the Bold (with Bonnie Prince Billy), studio album (2006)
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3.00 | 9 ratings
Tortoise
1994

3.49 | 21 ratings
Millions Now Living Will Never Die
1996

3.67 | 24 ratings
TNT
1998

3.80 | 15 ratings
Standards
2001

3.20 | 10 ratings
It's All Around You
2004

2.72 | 5 ratings
The Brave and the Bold
2006

4.29 | 3 ratings
Beacons of Ancestorship
2009

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3.31 | 3 ratings
A Lazarus Taxon
2006

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In The Fishtank
1999

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 Beacons of Ancestorship by TORTOISE album cover Studio Album, 2009
4.29 | 3 ratings

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Beacons of Ancestorship
Tortoise Post Rock/Math rock

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5 stars Tortoise have always been band that liked to reinvent themselves with each new album. every proper studio album differs pretty greatly from the one before. this one is no exception. this album sees the band truly honing their sound, the lovely electronic, post-rock sound they have created. this album seems to be a bit more consistent in how they sound, their many different sound come through as one as opposed to the 3/4 post rock 1/4 techno makeup of TNT and the on-off-on again feel of Standards. the band also adds a much heavier touch on this album, dripping with bass fuzz in certain tunes.

Tortoise has to be one of my favorite bands of all time. i feel pretty honoured to give the first review/rating. it's seems to me that they should be rated much higher than they currently are. i do not flinch to give this album 5 stars. they are more than deserving of a band. and the album itself is definitely a solid 4.5

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 The Brave and the Bold by TORTOISE album cover Studio Album, 2006
2.72 | 5 ratings

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The Brave and the Bold
Tortoise Post Rock/Math rock

Review by UMUR
Special Collaborator Progressive Metal Team

3 stars The Brave and the Bold is the sixth full-length studio album by US ( Chicago) experimental rock act Tortoise. The album is credited to Tortoise & Bonnie 'Prince' Billy. Bonnie 'Prince' Billy is one of the artist names used by American singer/ songwriter Will Oldham. The Brave and the Bold is a very different album compared to the rest of Tortoise discography. All songs are covers and all songs have vocals ( this is where Will Oldham enters the picture) which is not a regular feature in Tortoiseīs music.

The music is sophisticated pop/ rock and bringing in Will Oldham means that his voice is center of the attention most of the time. The album is not nearly as experimental as the other albums from the band, but itīs still an interesting album especially because of Will Oldhamīs strong and warm voice. Most songs have a melancholic mood but there are a couple of silly songs like the opener Cravo E Canela with itīs latin feel on the album which is good for the diversity of the album. I must confess that I donīt know a single one of the original tunes so I canīt comment on how different these versions are from the originals.

The musicianship is excellent and itīs so obvious that these musicians know their chops even though nothing really challenging is played.

The production is pleasant and warm. A good sound for the music.

Iīm not sure this album will neccessarely appeal to fans of Tortoise regular style, but with an open mind the album is actually pretty enjoyable and some of Tortoise ideas are still recognizable in the music. 3 stars is deserved even though I like their instrumental music better.

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 It's All Around You by TORTOISE album cover Studio Album, 2004
3.20 | 10 ratings

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It's All Around You
Tortoise Post Rock/Math rock

Review by UMUR
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3 stars It's All Around You is the fifth studio album by US ( Chicago) experimental/ post rock act Tortoise. Another good album from the band but not really an improvement over past efforts IMO.

The music is experimental, ambient and at times lounge jazzy or electronic rock. After listening to the album Iīm in a good mood and Tortoise proves once again that they are the masters of sophisticated and intelligent muzak ( I say this with the utmost respect. Please donīt misunderstand this for braindead supermarket muzak). The music is instrumental but the band has chosen to let a female vocalist called Kelly Hogan sing on The Lithium Stiffs. The vocals work as another instrumental effect though and not really as vocals. All songs are great but my favorite is probably Crest with itīs beautiful synthizised strings.

The musicianship is excellent. Subtle and emotional playing all the way through the album.

The production is excellent. Warm and pleasant.

It's All Around You may lack the innovative element of my favorite from the band Millions Now Living Will Never Die (1996), and eight years down the road from that excellent album Iīm sure the band has found their formula and are going to stick with it. At least it seems that way since the last three albums from the band TNT (1998), Standards (2001) and this album are pretty similar in sound and style. But it doesnīt change the fact that It's All Around You is a very good and pleasant album that I listen to on occasion just like the rest of Tortoise output. A 3 star rating is deserved.

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 Standards by TORTOISE album cover Studio Album, 2001
3.80 | 15 ratings

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Standards
Tortoise Post Rock/Math rock

Review by UMUR
Special Collaborator Progressive Metal Team

3 stars Standards is the fourth studio album from US ( Chicago) experimental/ post rock act Tortoise. While I wasnīt too impressed with Tortoise debut album Tortoise (1994) my respect and interest in the band grew considerably after listening to their second album Millions Now Living Will Never Die (1996). Tortoise third album TNT (1998) continued the good development of the groups sound, but added more electronic elements to Tortoise lounge jazzy experimental rock style. Standars take the electronic element one step further.

The music on Standards is still lounge jazzy experimental rock but thereīs an ambient electronic element in the music that is much more prominent on Standards than on any other of the previous releases from the band.

The musisicanship is good and even though nothing is really challenging in the music itīs still well played.

The production is excellent. Warm and pleasant.

In my review of TNT I stated that the music on that album sometimes worked better as background music or sophisticated muzak than actual listening music and Standards take that concept a step further. This is the kind of music that is perfect when you read a book or do the dishes. Nice, pleasant and warm music that might not overload your brain but certainly isnīt dull either. 3 stars is deserved.

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 TNT by TORTOISE album cover Studio Album, 1998
3.67 | 24 ratings

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TNT
Tortoise Post Rock/Math rock

Review by UMUR
Special Collaborator Progressive Metal Team

3 stars Released on the 10th of March 1998, TNT is the third studio album from experimental US ( Chicago) rock act Tortoise. I was happy with Tortoise last album Millions Now Living Will Never Die (1996) which I found to be a big improvement over the somewhat inconsistent and unstructured self-titled debut Tortoise (1994). TNT takes the sound from Millions Now Living Will Never Die and gives it a twist.

The music is very diverse and alternates between dusty lounge jazzy rock pieces to ambient electronica. But as with the two first albums from Tortoise rythm is an important part of their music. The bass is not as dominant and loud in the mix as on Millions Now Living Will Never Die. There are lots of vibes in the music which gives the music its jazzy touch. The music is fully instrumental.

The musicianship is excellent. A really well playing band.

The production is warm and pleasant and the electronic parts are also well sounding and natural.

It has taken me a while to get into TNT and on initial listens I was not as intrigued about it as I was after listening to Millions Now Living Will Never Die. Iīm still more into that album but TNT is a good album too. It might be a bit too long with its 64:48 minutes, and sometimes during the playing time the music is reduced to pleasant background muzak for me, but Iīm sure thatīs just me and my generel taste in music speaking. A 3 star rating is deserved though.

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 Millions Now Living Will Never Die  by TORTOISE album cover Studio Album, 1996
3.49 | 21 ratings

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Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Tortoise Post Rock/Math rock

Review by UMUR
Special Collaborator Progressive Metal Team

3 stars Millions Now Living Will Never Die is the second studio album from US ( Chicago) experimental/ post rock act Tortoise. Their debut album never really fit my taste even though it had some great moments but Millions Now Living Will Never Die is a much more impressive album IMO and well deserving some praise from me.

The music on the album is generally dominated by the rythm section and what a rythm section that is. Highly skilled musicians. Vibes, organ and occasional guitars are also a part of the soundscape. The album starts with the 20 minute Djed. An excellent experimental track. Itīs not that it has many different sections ( about five or six different ones during the playing time) but it never gets too repetitive and most of the sections are excellent. I especially enjoy the what I see as the third section of the song where the drums shift in rythm and the bass comes in after a lenghty break. Very powerful section with a great dark mood. The vibes in Glass Museum and Along the Banks of Rivers gives the music a lounge jazzy touch that soothes my ears and in the case of the latter Iīm reminded of some of Angelo Badalamentiīs work on David Lynch movie soundtracks. A Survey and Dear Grandma and Grandpa are pretty short and more ambient tracks which is not my favorite style. My favorite here must be The Taut and Tame. What a great rythmic song. Really excellent.

The musicianship is excellent which isnīt surprising if youīve listened to the debut which also had excellent musicianship. This time around the songs are interesting too though.

The production is excellent as well. Note the dominant bass in the mix and the dry snare drum sound. It sounds so powerful to my ears.

Millions Now Living Will Never Die is a big step forward from Tortoise debut album IMO and might be worth a 4 star rating. Iīm still in doubt though and for now it will be a BIG 3 star rating from me.

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 Tortoise by TORTOISE album cover Studio Album, 1994
3.00 | 9 ratings

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Tortoise Post Rock/Math rock

Review by UMUR
Special Collaborator Progressive Metal Team

2 stars Tortoise is the self-titled debut studio album from US ( Chicago) experimental/ post rock act Tortoise. The album sounds much like I anticipated it to sound, so even though Iīm a novice when it comes to the post rock genre thereīs no surprises here.

The music is based on a strong rythm section with two drummers and two bassists ( it might even be three) ( pretty strange constellation) and most songs have a very stripped down sound. The use of vibes in a song like Ry Cooder gives the music a slight jazzy touch, but most songs have repetitive rythms and very little melodic content ( this is my opinion and others might feel differently about it). Thereīs also a couple of more ambient-like tracks in Onions Wrapped In Rubber and His Second Story Island.

The musicianship is very strong and thereīs some really excellent rythmic material on the album.

The production is warm and powerful. Note that really great bass sound.

Even though the album has excellent musicianship and interesting ideas my overall impression of the music is that itīs too repetitive and too many songs sound too much alike. I like some parts of the album but I can only give it 2 stars. I canīt say that Iīm not intrigued and I will definitely check out more of Tortoise music but this album doesnīt really fit my taste.

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 It's All Around You by TORTOISE album cover Studio Album, 2004
3.20 | 10 ratings

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It's All Around You
Tortoise Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Neu!mann
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3 stars The sound of this celebrated Windy City quintet is, as always, nearly impossible to pin down. But the futuristic sci-fi lounge beat of the band's fifth studio album offers a preview of what the cooler kids on the block will be grooving to in the 23rd century.

The group has changed and matured with every new release since their 1994 debut, but this album (marking ten years together, quite an accomplishment all by itself) is the first to sound not unlike its immediate predecessor, the recommended "Standards", from 2001. The two could almost be packaged together as a double-disc, which might explain the relative letdown experienced here: after three years, it's a little disappointing not to hear this always innovative band breaking new stylistic territory.

But at least it's a high-caliber rut they're stuck in. The album, attractively underplayed (as usual), is still very rhythmic, built around a variety of percussions: electric and acoustic, analog and digital. Guitars, when heard at all, are used more for color and texture, and the overall design follows a well-established Tortoise tradition of inscrutable cover art coupled to instrumental music of unfathomable individuality.

Sometimes a welcome harshness enters the usually cool mix, as in the throbbing industrial percussion and noise of "Dot/Eyes", or the briefly overamped guitar feedback in the middle of "Crest". But generally it's an even more polished production than usual, perhaps too much so: the bright digital sound in some places lacks the organic warmth of earlier Tortoise efforts.

Nevertheless, it's a pleasure to find such unfashionable music still being made today, and still able to reach a discerning audience.

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 Standards by TORTOISE album cover Studio Album, 2001
3.80 | 15 ratings

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Standards
Tortoise Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Neu!mann
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4 stars It's always nice to discover a group of musicians with more than three working brain cells between them, and this semi-legendary Chicago quintet is certainly one of the smartest acts around. Since 1994 they've accomplished something truly rare in today's disposable music market: producing a small but vital body of work with a unique, evolving style that defies easy analysis.

On their fourth studio album (and first in the 21st century) the band obviously made an effort to update their equipment, and their sound alongside it. The music-as always, entirely instrumental-is still drawn around an almost geometrical grid of shifting, overlapping rhythms (three of the five members play bass guitar). But now the beats are stronger than before, and frequently exhibit more aggression than you might expect from the formally attired Post Rock professors depicted on their page here at Prog Archives.

Maybe that extra muscle accounts for the higher overall rating of this album within the greater Tortoise catalogue. By 2001 the band had already polished to a diamond-bright sheen its patented blend of ambient space jazz and Martian lounge music (as heard on the tracks "Firefly" and the second half of "Benway", respectively). But here they add an extra layer of digital trip-hop trance grooves (listen to the twin bookmarks of "Eden 1" and "Eden 2"), creating a seamless, unclassifiable composite as accessible as it is experimental.

As I said: a style that defies easy analysis. Maybe it's enough to say the music of Tortoise, and this album in particular, stands up easily on its own without the crutch of close examination.

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 TNT by TORTOISE album cover Studio Album, 1998
3.67 | 24 ratings

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TNT
Tortoise Post Rock/Math rock

Review by Neu!mann
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3 stars Chicago's best-kept musical secret is one of the few bands able to brag of being truly progressive, by sounding like nobody else, least of all themselves on earlier albums. Since first learning about the group here at Prog Archives I've been able to sample all five of their studio albums to date (all within a single week, thanks to a well-stocked Erie County library system), and I'm more than a little amazed at how little they owe to any other Prog band or musical tradition.

Actually, that isn't entirely true. There's a subtle undercurrent of classic Krautrock in a lot of their music, and it surfaces again on the band's third album, released in 1998. Listen, for example, to the minimal rhythms of "Swing From the Gutter", clearly influenced by (but in no way an imitation of) the hypnotic, heartbeat grooves of CAN.

Rumor says the album title is an acronym for Tough and Tender, not the more explosive trinitrotoluene. If true, the music here definitely leans more toward the tender end of the equation, with a relaxed but confident sound balanced somewhere between experimental post-rock and cocktail lounge jazz (a weird combination, but it works). And the album continues a Tortoise tradition of quirky song titles, with "A Simple Way To Go Faster Than Light That Does Not Work", and (my favorite) the goofball Zen koan "Almost Always Is Nearly Enough".

The music itself (all of it instrumental) tends to unfold with a disarming, seemingly arbitrary sense of structure: beginning somewhere, ending somewhere else, and often exhibiting no real urgency to get there. But the mood varies to an astonishing degree, from the sunny Mediterranean vacation of "I Set My Face to the Hillside" to the techno-lounge psychedelia of "Equator", and to the ambient tuned-percussion mantras of "Ten-Day-" and (four tracks later) "Four-Day Interval".

For the sake of lazy reference I'm reminded of Yo La Tengo, another outsider band (from backwoods New Jersey) operating under its own peculiar rules. But the emphasis here on toe-tapping geometrical rhythm (three of the six players are credited with percussion; and four play bass guitar) puts Tortoise in a class by itself.

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