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Gryphon

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3.44 | 85 ratings | 17 reviews | 16% 5 stars

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Studio Album, released in 1977

Songs / Tracks Listing

Side 1
1. Spring Song (10:00)
2. Round & Round (4:30)
3. Flash in the Pantry (4:57)
Side 2
4. Falero Lady (4:08)
5. Snakes and Ladders (5:15)
6. Fall of the Leaf (4:22)
7. Major Disaster (4:04)

Total Time: 37:16

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Line-up / Musicians

- Richard Harvey / piano, sax, recorder, keyboards
- Brian Gulland / bassoon, english horn, vocals, recorders
- David Oberlé / lead vocals, percussion
- Bob Foster / guitars, vocals
- Jonathan Davie / bass guitars
- Alex Baird / drums

Lyrics by Tim Sebastian Except no. 2 Foster / Sebastian

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GRYPHON Treason ratings distribution


3.44
(85 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(16%)
16%
Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(40%)
40%
Good, but non-essential (33%)
33%
Collectors/fans only (8%)
8%
Poor. Only for completionists (2%)
2%

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Review by Sean Trane
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog Folk
2 stars Some moments on this downright electric effort and really muscled rock . The group has now evolved into a real rock group and bears little resemblances to the early albums that were totally acoustic. Most numberts here are strongly inspired by Yes even to the voice. I am not sure they found more success with this stuff but they lost all of the folkies who were still clinging to them with the previous one and they lost everything because they got swiped away by the punk storm.

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Posted Monday, February 02, 2004

Review by greenback
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator
4 stars It is the last album I own from them. Their sound here is quite more electric than in the past, less folky. I think this record has a optimum balance between electric instruments and acoustic ones. Many would consider bad their new orientation, but one has to listen carefully and conclude that the tracks are sophisticated, very well played and very progressive. There are still tons of percussions (varied small bells among others). The bassoon is still well played, the required synchronization for complex changing patterns is still there. Harvey's keyboards are more rhythmic, more accessible, despite he plays here some outstanding solos. The bass is complex enough and rather bottom. The omnipresent rhythmic guitars and keyboards, the miscellaneous vocals give some bits a style comparable to prog band Kayak. But of course the compositions are quite more elaborated. Different, yes, but still excellent!

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Posted Sunday, August 15, 2004

Review by SouthSideoftheSky
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Symphonic Team
4 stars This is in my opinion the best of Gryphon's albums and a well hidden gem, severely underrated. As has been pointed out by other reviewers, this does not sound like any other Gryphon album. But then again wasn't there a pretty large difference between their first and their second albums as well? Gryphon has always been a band under constant progression and to me this album is still very much Gryphon. Most of their trademarks are still here (Krumhorn, anyone?).

This album is perhaps a bit less experimental than the earlier ones, but this is still very much progressive rock - and it rocks harder than any other Gryphon album. You could perhaps say that it is a bit darker and a bit less silly than earlier Gryphon albums, but there is enough silliness to recognize which band it is. Indeed, even the title of the album itself (a prediction of what people were going to say about their change of direction) shows that they didn't take themselves too seriously.

There are also a lot more vocals here than on most Gryphon albums, and the vocals are better too. The songs are very melodious and well written. The music is definitely similar in some respects to Gentle Giant, but without imitating them. This album should appeal to fans of Gentle Giant and to prog rock fans in general, perhaps more so than any other Gryphon album.

The only song I don't really care for here is "Snakes and Ladders" which sounds a bit like the carnival in Rio!

Unfortunately, it is rather hard to find this album. I haven't found it on CD yet for a reasonable price (over $100 on amazon!!). I downloaded it from mp3fiesta.com for about $1.50 (recommended!). I still want it on CD though, as soon as I can find it for a reasonable price.

Excellent addition to any prog music collection, if you can find it.

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Posted Friday, July 25, 2008

Review by Evolver
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Crossover & JazzRock/Fusion Teams
3 stars Every time I listen to this album, I have the same reaction. Throughout what was the first side of the album, I find myself enjoying the music immensely. The songs are energetic electric prog, fronted by Bob Foster's Steve Howe like guitar wizardry. I find myself at this listen thinking "4 stars at least, maybe even 5 stars if they can remain consistent."

Then I go ahead and listen to the rest of the album. The energy drops off considerably, and the songwriting loses most of the inventiveness that flowed about the previous songs. So, four starts for side one, two stars for side two.

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Posted Saturday, January 16, 2010

Review by ZowieZiggy
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3 stars As other colleagues have said, this album has little (to nothing) to do with their previous works. From a soft acoustic folk during their first two albums (that showed little prog), the band evolved nicely with "Red Queen" which was IMHHO their best work ever. The music was definitely prog and it was a great mix of folk and symphonic passages.

This album is even more symphonic at times and I also have to say that the long opener "Spring Song" seriously borrow to "Yes": bombastic organ, mellotron, catchy vocals and powerful band. This is a very good track indeed, although it was totally unexpected.

But almost the whole of this album is unexpected. Even if the gentle "Round & Round" is more in line with their roots: a soft folk-rock ballad with a nice touch thanks to several instruments used in here. It is another good moment actually. I am not quite enthusiast though about the jazzy and world-music oriented "Flash In The Pantry"

The remaining songs are not quite exciting and range from jazz-rock ("Falero Lady", "Snakes & Ladders"), melodic rock ("Fall Of The Leaf") to soft-rock music ("Major Disaster"). Vocal arrangements are quite decent throughout the whole album which I rate with three stars.

It was also a difficult time for prog bands to get a place on the forefront at the time (1977 ? I hope I go to heaven. From whom you might know).

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Posted Saturday, September 24, 2011

Review by Neu!mann
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3 stars In 1977 it probably wasn't the best idea for even an erstwhile Prog band like Gryphon to name their new album "Treason". Fans of Progressive Rock were suffering enough persecution at the time, without the added betrayal of their favorite medieval troubadours presenting themselves as mainstream commercial pop stars.

That wasn't quite what happened, obviously. But I can still recall my disappointment after first hearing the album, fresh off the record store shelves. The emphatic cover art promised a heavier, more aggressive experience, not the cloying high-calorie sweetness of Prog-Pop ballads like "Round & Round", "Fall of the Leaf", and the too-aptly titled "Major Disaster".

The line-up of the band had been drastically reshuffled too, with original guitarist Graeme Taylor quitting and David Oberlé leaving his drum kit to focus strictly on singing duties, both moves oddly mirroring similar cataclysms within GENESIS at around the same time (but with far less profitable results). And the antique Elizabethan whimsy of earlier albums, already in jeopardy, was almost completely eradicated. No more krumhorns, alas, and Richard Harvey's signature recorder runs were conspicuously missing, until a too-brief, token appearance in the album's final moments.

Treason, indeed, but that was then. Fast-forward to the early 21st century...

Revisiting the LP for the first time in many decades, I was pleasantly surprised by how well it's aged. The social context of the later 1970s is long gone of course, so now it's possible to enjoy the album on its own merits, slim and superficial though they may be. The album may have been a sell-out, but it was hardly a sudden one; the process had been evolving ever since the band's self-titled first album in 1973 (a still underrated effort, in these pages).

And, if nothing else, it was at least a well-produced and thoroughly professional sell-out. In retrospect the album was much stronger than their previous "Raindance", and arguably more cohesive than the fan favorite "Red Queen to Gryphon Three", despite having far less interesting material. There's a stronger overall sense of purpose here, even if that same purpose was fast becoming desperately unfashionable with every passing hour.

To their credit the band had enough forethought to call it quits soon afterward, instead of dragging their heels into terminal redundancy like so many other Proggers at the end of the decade. The sad example of their tour mates and mentors in YES springs immediately to mind, as well as the waning GENTLE GIANT, Gryphon's closest stylistic competitor and fellow casualties of changing times.

Karma can indeed be a bitch, and the penalty for this particular "Treason" was a quick and premature oblivion. But try listening to the album again, this time with unblemished ears. It's lightweight stuff, sure, but you might just catch yourself tapping your toes to the playfully spastic rhythms of "Falero Lady", or joining in the upbeat chorus of the optimistic "Spring Song".

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Posted Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Review by Menswear
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4 stars Not what you think!

It's exaggerating greatly to say that Gryphon committed treason to their sound and their fans with this album. I'm actually surprised by the negative comments above. I kinda understand their deception; you have to remember that Gryphon was (and still is, frankly) so superior in writing and execution than everybody else. Few could come close to being that skilled, but a lazier album by Gryphon is STILL better than many, many other 'classics' in the prog world (*cough* ELP).

I do agree, they changed their approach: less medieval, more Yes-like, more vocals, more catchyness, more love-oriented texts and a general less 'showoffness'.

You STILL have an above-average record with lots of hooks and a Fairy Tale mood that will still satisfy your hunger for mind-blowing prog.

Not a Treason by any means, just more pressure from The Man.

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5 stars Although only recognized by few, this is by far the best Gryphon album. Finally they succeeded in developing a true sound with complete songs. On their previous albums the sound quality was really too poor and the structure of the songs was hardly perceptible, the only truly tangible songs, bein ... (read more)

Report this review (#749920) | Posted by Life Line Project | Monday, May 07, 2012 | Review Permanlink

4 stars Some guy on Amazon.com described this album as 'disastrous' or some other synonym of a similar regard, and after deciding to ignore his comment (I'm assuming it's a guy here, it could well have been one of those non-guys) and going ahead and listening to the album I can honestly say his opinio ... (read more)

Report this review (#596501) | Posted by Canterzeuhl | Monday, December 26, 2011 | Review Permanlink

1 stars I find it difficult to understand the other somewhat glowing reviews of this album. I was a fan of Gryphon when they were actually around, back in the early 70's and I cannot remember an album that disappointed me more than Treason. Treason is an apt name, because in this album Gryphon betray ... (read more)

Report this review (#448317) | Posted by beammeupscotty | Sunday, May 15, 2011 | Review Permanlink

3 stars This was Gryphon's last album with an expanded line up. Guitarist Bob Foster replaces Graeme Taylor, drummer Alex Baird (famous for playing The William Tell overture on his skull in concert) and bassist Jonathan Davie have joined the remaining 3 original members in a mainly electric line up. Sa ... (read more)

Report this review (#298367) | Posted by Hercules | Friday, September 10, 2010 | Review Permanlink

3 stars A nice wee album. Just like the Beatles did in '69 with 'Abbey Road' - another album that had no direction -just great tunes after "sergeant'-. Gryphon saved all their best tunes and odds and ends for this final release in '77. The complexity of 'Red Queen' has vanished, and in it's place is some ... (read more)

Report this review (#298353) | Posted by Dobermensch | Friday, September 10, 2010 | Review Permanlink

3 stars This album starts off very well. 'Spring Song' sounds like it is setting up for some quirky instrumental prog along the lines of one of the tunes from the amazing 'Red Queen to Gryphon Three' album, but then about a third of the way through the tune it morphs into something that sounds an awful ... (read more)

Report this review (#187727) | Posted by digdug | Sunday, November 02, 2008 | Review Permanlink

4 stars The final work released in 1977 "Treason". The sound was made a pop rock the member's changing. It is a work that overturns the image of the past. A sweet melody divides listener's favor. The atmosphere is caused with by the whole volume. The performance that combines exquisite ensembles is rh ... (read more)

Report this review (#60365) | Posted by braindamage | Thursday, December 15, 2005 | Review Permanlink

5 stars Gryphon's last album is absolutely a masterpiece! Yes, ok their sound is different, and one might say they have sold their soul for satan (money), but I can't agree on that. This is one of another breathtakingly album by this superior band! The folk elements and instruments are still there, t ... (read more)

Report this review (#44769) | Posted by Dan Yaron | Monday, August 29, 2005 | Review Permanlink

3 stars an excellent album if somewhat dated. quiet thoughtful tracks like 'fall of the leaf ' are contrasted by more upbeat 'flash in the pantry' and 'major disaster'. there sound is something quite different in the realms of folk music. you'll get used to it ...then like it a lot. definitely wort ... (read more)

Report this review (#3031) | Posted by | Saturday, May 29, 2004 | Review Permanlink

4 stars This is "far" from early Gryphon records....still i think this is a great album!! Why? Well... im am very fond of my early Gryphon records....with their folk/rock trimmings. That said.. i think that this outing is fresh...one might say they´re popish/rockish....but still, underneat it all, there ... (read more)

Report this review (#3030) | Posted by Tonny Larz | Friday, May 28, 2004 | Review Permanlink

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