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Studio Album, released in 1986

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Walk In The Shadows (3:37)
2. I dream In Infra Red (4:17)
3. The Whisper (3:37)
4. Gonna Get Close To You (4:37)
5. The Killing Words (3:56)
6. Surgical Strike (3:19)
7. Neue Regel (4:54)
8. Chemical Youth (we are rebellion) (4:14)
9. London (5:07)
10. Screaming In Digital (3:36)
11. I Will Remember (4:27)

Total Time: 45:41

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Line-up / Musicians

- Chris DeGarmo / guitars
- Eddie Jackson / bass
- Scott Rockenfield / percussion
- Geoff Tate / lead vocals, keyboards
- Michael Wilton / guitars

Guests:
- Bradley Doyle / Emulator computer programming
- Nell Kernon / additional keyboards

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Lp. EMI AML 3105 / Lp. EMI ST-17197 / Cd. EMI CDP 7-46330 (????)

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3.97
(266 ratings)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(34%)
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Review by Marc Baum
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5 stars Queensryche went from the brilliant, more guitars-oriented debut The Warning further to a more synth/key dominanted sound on their second full length album "Rage For Order". They proove again that they truly are “the thinking man’s metal band”, it’s not just another nickname.

The lyrics in this album, though at times a bit outdated, are thought-provoking, intelligent and at times, bold. Chris DeGarmo (the principle songwriter for the band) does a great job with the lyrics and song arrangements, and after looking back and listening to this album again just makes me even more excited over the fact that Chris DeGarmo has just re-joined Queensryche for their new, not-yet-titled album, after leaving in 1997, months after the release of Queensryche’s only average effort, Hear In The Now Frontier. This is the album where Queensryche finally flexes their artsy, progressive muscle after showing hints of it on the album before this one, The Warning. They break out the keyboards, synthesizers, acoustic guitars, complex arrangements along with more time changes more than they ever have before. The production is very well done, as are most of Queensryche’s albums, and succeed in being crisp, clear and clean without being overly sleek and polished. Of course, it goes without saying, that Geoff Tate’s high-pitched, operatic vocal delivery is top-notch and among the best in metal. DeGarmo and Wilton both shine on the guitar and as usual, kick ass with the dual guitar harmonies. Scott Rockenfield’s drumming is simple, but above average and shows that you don’t always have to be complex in order to be a great drummer. According to the band, the album is represented by three tiers that represent the idea of Rage For Order: love, politics and technology, which makes sense, since those subjects make up the subject matter for the entire album.

Track-by-track guide:

01 - Walk In The Shadows - We begin the album with the straight-up metal number, “Walk In The Shadows”, showing that although Queensryche has taken a more artistic approach, they haven’t forgotten their pure metal roots. Geoff’s vocals are the highlight in this song, howling and wailing away, but with style. The main riff melody as well as the chorus are both very infectious and will stay with you for some time.

02 - I Dream In Infrared - This includes a nice mid-tempo groove, which is nicely complimented with a cool keyboard and simple, but effective drumming. This could be classified as a ballad, I guess, but I consider it more a mid-tempo song, but nevertheless, it’s a very good tune.

03 - The Whisper - Iron Maiden-esque piece of music. This is a great traditional style metal song that stays with mid-pace throughout. The keyboards that pop up occasionally in this song adds a little flair to the song, as does Chris DeGarmo and Michael Wilton’s dual harmonies.

04 - Gonna Get Close To You - This is a very dark song about a man stalking a woman he loves. Not only are the lyrics disturbing and quite eerie, but the mountain of keyboards in this song as well as Geoff’s vocal delivery add to the dark atmosphere. This song is also quite catchy!

05 - The Killing Words - That is a very sorrow-filled ballad with some nice-sounding keyboards that chime in at times, and a good chorus. This song win the “most commercial sounding” award, as this has mid-80's rock radio written all over it and wouldn’t sound out of place in a Dokken or Fifth Angel album, but it’s still a good sound, if a bit cheesy-sounding.

06 - Surgical Strike - This is another Iron Maiden- influenced tune, but this time, no keyboards except in the middle for a very brief period, but other than that, just balls-out metal.

07 - Neue Regal - This is probably the most complex song on the album. This song has all the tricks in their: keyboards, synthesizers, acoustic guitars, electric giutars, catchy chorus, top-notch operatic vocals that is digitized in the beginning, a few time changes...the works, and all in 4 minutes and 55 seconds!

08 - Chemical Youth (We Are Rebellion) - A song which, once again, reminds the listeners that the band have not forgotten their straight-up metal roots. This is a nasty rocker that will make you black and blue all over after listening to it. There are no keyboards, no synthesizers, no acoustic guitars, just blistering metal, and that is very refreshing after all the artsy material. One of my favorites.

09 - London - This awesome rocker is followed by the ballad, “London”, which carries a very melancholy atmosphere throughout, and it’s really a very good song. You can feel the sadness in Geoff’s Voice on this one, as well as the music itself. It sends chills down my spine. This is also not as commercial sounding as The Killing Words, either.

10 - Screaming In Digital - Very weird, but very interesting song that oddly conveys the subject of the song through the music, I mean the music really compliments the song’s lyrics about technology taking over. I sort of see this song as a weirded out version of Queensryche’s other song about technology nightmares, NM 156 (which can be found on the album The Warning). This song also has an awesome intro that I go back to time and time again.

11 - I Will Remember - This song sounds like the precursor to Queensryche’s mega-hit ballad from 1990's Empire album, of course I’m talking about Silent Lucidity. As much as I love Silent Lucidity, I sort of favor this song just a little. Why, I don’t know. The guitar work here is incredible, I just love the Spanish-flavored solo, played acoustically, like the rest of the rest of the song, it just gets me every time. This is a very sad, but haunting song that always makes me come back for more.

This album marked a turning point in Queensryche’s sound, but somehow, as dramatic as the change may have been, it seemed like a very natural change. They still had elements of the traditional, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden style that they started out with, so it’s wasn’t like abandoned it, they just dressed it with artsy, progressive rock like Rush and Pink Floyd influences thrown in. This album also set the stage very well for the band’s next release after this one and one of my all-time favorite albums ever...”Operation: Mindcrime”. RFO still remains as a state of art record in the bands repertoire and is highly recommended to any progressive rock/metal fan.

album rating: 9.5/10 points = 93 % on MPV scale = 5/5 stars

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Posted Wednesday, December 24, 2003

Review by Easy Livin
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3 stars Kissing the Iron Maiden

As the predecessor to "Operation : Mindcrime", "Rage for order" gave little indication of the quality to be expected on its illustrious successor. The tracks are short, generally in the 4-5 minute range, with little development beyond fairly standard pop rock structures. There is a broad concept to the album reflected in the title. In the words of the band's website: "It's very much like the world right now -- a kind of chaos searching for direction". Prior to recording this album, the band had been touring with Kiss and Iron Maiden, and the influence of both bands can be heard clearly here. The music has a metallic basis, but is pretty much devoid of any prog influences, which would come later. The collaboration with Pink Floyd producer James Guthrie on the previous album "The warning" was not considered to be entirely successful. This album was therefore produced by Neil Kernon whose previous experience producing such bands as Dokken, Autograph, and Hall and Oats complements the music of Queensryche well.

The album opens powerfully with "Walk in the shadows", an upbeat, toe tapping number with some fine guitar work. There are many influences and similarities throughout the album. "I dream in infrared" and "The whisper" (among others) have strong echoes of Iron Maiden. "The killing words" moves from an Asia like intro to A Journey style melodic rock power ballad. "Gonna get close to you" has a very similar riff to the one which appeared previously on Stevie Nicks' 1981 song "Edge of seventeen". This incidentally, is the only cover version the band have ever recorded. "Neue Regel" has a Led Zeppelin feel, with spacey keyboards and twanging guitars, although the chorus is more orthodox power rock.

The closing track, "I will remember" is the high point of the album, with some superb vocals. An excellent MTV unplugged version of this song can be heard as a bonus track on the remastered version of "Hear in the now frontier".

The remastered version of "Rage for order" includes four bonus tracks. The 12" remix of "Gonna get close to you" is not too different from the original. The live version of "Killing words" is reasonable, but inferior to both the MTV Unplugged bonus track on "Hear in the now frontier", and the studio version included here. The other two bonus tracks are an acoustic remix of "I dream in infrared", and a bootleg quality live version of "Walk in the shadows", both of which appear in their original form on this album.

A decent if unremarkable early album from this erratic band.

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Posted Monday, March 07, 2005

Review by greenback
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3 stars This album represents well what is ordinary lite heavy metal. It reminds me a bit Triumph, although Triumph is more hard rock than metal oriented. I like the clean guitar sound on "I dream in infrared". Geoff Tate's voice is good, although his screaming is sometimes annoying. The good point is that the songs are varied and the airs often change. It is not fast metal: the beat is rather slow. Plus, the bass is REALLY not present enough. This record would be better if all the instruments were more involved: this metal record is not enough loaded; that's why it is not a memorable album.

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Review by Certif1ed
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3 stars While better than Iron Maiden's "Somewhere in Time" or Judas Priest's "Turbo", Queensryche improve their playing techniques and experiment with sounds and textures rather than bother to improve upon their songwriting abilities on this follow up to "The Warning".

On the whole, it's pretty much more of the same but a bit better and more experimental - the same Priest/Maiden riffs, vocals and guitar lines are re-used, with snippets of Marillion, (Dio) Sabbath and Diamond Head. The songs themselves are utterly unmemorable - although razor sharp in execution and imaginative in detail.

This sharpness in execution and production, it must be remembered, was de-rigeur for most metal bands of this time - even the thrash metal bands were polishing up their acts, as evidenced by "Reign in Blood" and "Master of Puppets" - both infinitely more progressive in terms of songwriting and technique development, the latter being a fully-fledged Prog Metal album in all but acceptance by the Prog Metal crowd.

It's easy to hear all manner of details that still underpin Prog Metal in this album, however - from the drumming style, and "complex" rhythms deployed in tracks like "The Killing Words" - for while the album has a kind of samey quality to it all the way through, it does develop in terms of rhythmic and textural experimentation over the course of what is side 1 on the vinyl album - although someone should have told them that the keyboard "orchestra hit" sound has never been cool. Can anyone remember "Reflex" by Duran Duran?

Lyrically, this owes much to "Script for a Jester's Tear" in terms of the content - the subject matter mainly appears to be about failed relationships - but also to Priest and Maiden; "Gonna Get Close To You" reminds me of "Prowler" somewhat. However, there's a nice bit of computer paranoia in the last two songs - a touch of irony, perhaps, given the addition of a "computer" to the list of instruments...

One of the main problems with this album is the lack of any real harmonic development - everything hangs off a couple of chords and excessive use of what are known in musical circles as pedals - by which I don't mean the boxes made by Taurus, but a single held bass note over which music flows more or less freely. This technique lends a spacey feel to the music, and helps it feel "big", but ultimately prevents it from feeling dramatic or satisfying.

All these criticisms are merely to illustrate why this is not really progressive, despite the patina and the skill in execution; not to say that this is a bad album in any way.

On the contrary, it's well worth a listen for any metal fan - follow it up with "Stained Class", "Heaven and Hell" or "Script for a Jester's Tear", and compare real raw, unadulterated, progressive songwriting with what is essentially poor songwriting compensated for by technical exploration and experimentation, that makes for an intriguing listen a few times and a worthy place in the Prog Metal history books.

Stand out tracks "Neue Regel", "Screaming in Digital" (if you can ignore the lyrics...).

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Review by 1800iareyay
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4 stars Rage For Order marked QR's movement towards prog metal. The E.P. and The Warning were great, but they were mteal of a more classic variety. This album is where the experimentation began in earnest. Geoff's voice is insanely good; Scott's drums, though simple, are quite technical; Chris and Michael create superb guitar passages; and Eddie's bass is subtley takes the spotlight.

"Walk in the Shadows" is a great opener with Geoff kinda barking his vocals and a great riff. It's a straight-foward number but it's still a QR classic. "I Dream in Infrared" blends the classic metal with melody and variety. "The Whisper" is propelled by Chris and Mike as well as Geoff on keyboards. "Gonna Get Close to You" contains the haunting atmosphere that would pervade Operation Mindcrime. This fantastic song will give you shivers.

"The Killing Words" has some proggy composition and Geoff's beautiful vox are in the forefront. "Surgical Strike" is another straight-foward song that's very catchy. "Neuge Regel" brings back the progressive tendencies that wer lacking on the previous song. "London" veers into ballad country, but the lyrics are decidedly not poppy. The opening staccato riff in "Screaming in Digital" immediately grabs your attention. "I Will Remember" brings the album to a gentle close.

Rage For Order is a gem of an album, but it's yet to be full prog metal. That would come with the next release, which would become IMO the greatest prog metal album of all time. Fans of QR should certainly own this album, as should any fans of metal, prog or no.

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Review by Mellotron Storm
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3 stars This was a big let down after the amazing "The Warning".The band here gets away from the straight forward Metal of their previous release to a more experimental, keyboard driven sound. I know for most people this is a good thing and it does pave the way for "Operation Mindcrime", but i miss the crunch of "The Warning". And besides this record has a lot of tracks I would call weak, although the opening three tracks are what makes this a good album.

"Walk In The Shadows" is a straight forward,commercial sounding tune but it works some how. Good opener. "I Dream In Infrared" is almost ballad-like and Tate is in fine form. Nice guitar solo 3 minutes in. "The Whisper" opens with a memorable guitar melody and Tate again sounds great ! "Gonna Get Close To You" is a song I detest, especially the bonus track version where it sounds like they are using electronic drums. It really sounds like eighties crap to me.

"The Killing Words" has a keyboard intro and a good soaring guitar melody that turns into screaming solo.The bass work is great as well. "Surgical Strike" and "Neue Regal" are both ok. "Chemical Youth (We are Rebellion)" is a good uptempo rocker. "London" features slowly pounding drums with vocals while the synths come in during the chorus. Good tune. "Sceaming In Digital" is a hard one for me to get into with the theatrical vocals. The drumming is prominant and a good guitar solo stands out. "I Will Remember" is a good ballad-like song with reserved vocals and acoustic guitar.

Good record but definitely not essential by any means.

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Review by b_olariu
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4 stars Queensryche went from the brilliant, more heavy debut The Warning further to a more synth/key dominanted sound on their second full length album "Rage For Order". They proove again that they truly are "the thinking man's metal band", it's not just another nickname. So another well done album and one of their best so far. One of the best albums of the '80 no doubt. Every piece sounds futuristic because of the more keys added to music, this album has nothing in common with The warning witch is heavy metal a la Iron Maiden, and sounds very different from the next one Operation who also is more heavy then this one. The band said in a magazin from the early '90 that is the most comercial album they ever made 'till then. Maybe is a little lighter then even Empire but some piece is mindblowing: the opening track Walk In The Shadows, Chemical Youth (we are rebellion) the fastest and hardest from here and the last one I will remember (just listen to the voice of Geoff Tate ) absolute stunning. So my rate is a big 4, and recommended to every one.

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Posted Thursday, September 13, 2007

Review by UMUR
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3 stars To call Queensryche´s second album essential to any prog collection is a bit much in my world. Sure this is where their progressive tendencies were born and sure Rage for Order is a much better album than The Warning but essential ? No I don´t think so.

The eighties sound is still very much present on Rage for Order and synth have been added since The Warning. This helped to create an album that was more diverse but not as powerful as The Warning. Geoff Tate is developing his vocal skills and sound very theatrical on some of the tracks.

It´s an album I listen to very rarely these days, as it is a bit dated. Sometimes it comes of the shelf though and I always enjoy it but as soon as the album is over it goes on the shelf again, and it can be years before I listen to it again.

A good prog metal album, but wait for the next one ( Operation Mindcrime) as it is much better.

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Posted Monday, October 29, 2007

Review by ProgBagel
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4 stars Queensryche - 'Rage for Order' 4 stars

Due to my age, I didn't know of any progressive metal bands before Dream Theater. When I eventually checked it out, I was led to Queensryche's album 'Operation Mindcrime'. Being exactly what it was made out to be, I checked out more of the recent albums and found nothing. Going backwards however, led me to much promise.

This is Chris DeGarmo's (guitarist, main arranger) essential album. I am fond of all the different ideas he came up with behind his instrument sound wise. He had some great riffs on his guitar, along with beautiful acoustic arrangements, some really dissonant pieces and even diving into some effects. His guitar work on this album is unlike any other Queensryche album, as it got a little more band oriented on subsequent albums. The song arrangements were all very good and Geoff can carry the listener through them with his now perfected vocal work. An album not to be looked over for its age, I consider this an excellent piece of music.

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Posted Thursday, November 27, 2008

Review by Negoba
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4 stars Prog Metal's First Dramatic Fire

Prior to Rage for Order, several bands, Queensryche chief among them, had been dabbling in adding progressive elements into metal. But the moment that prog metal truly arrived was 1986 upon turning this LP or cassette over for side 2. The first song on that side, Neue Regel, is pure prog. Combining syncopated time acoustics, seamless transitions between quite distinct sections, intense effected vocals, and composed riffs designed in conjunction with the song, this piece announced that the band was going to jump into a new sound head first.

The style of composition is something that Queensryche did better in the late 80's than virtually anyone in metal has ever done. Unlike the majority of metal (including most prog metal and this band's debut EP), the riffs did not come first, with vocals added over the top. The multiple parts of the song clearly evolved together, with melodic themes obviously in mind, and rhythmic interplay essential for the composition. While the rhythms are rarely in complex time signature, the members set up polyrhythms between their parts that are the heart of progressive playing. Tate had managed to do this once on the EP, a little more on Warning, but here is when the style blossoms. Guitarists Chris Degarmo and Michael Wilton's leads are also clearly composed for the song here, an element that becomes their signature, and something that has evolved from the trade-off improvisation punctuated by parallel harmony leads typical of NWOBHM.

Side 2 of Rage for Order also contains Screaming in Digital, which is a virtual prototype for Pain of Salvation's masterpiece The Perfect Element. While PoS again have evolved the complexity to some degree, Geoff Tate's unmatched voice pulls off the theatrics much better. Keyboards play a much larger role in this album, again courtesy of Tate. But instead of smoothing the rough edges as Iron Maiden and Judas Priest did around the same time period (Maiden as a nice addition to their stock sound on Somewhere in Time, Priest as a commerciality grab on Turbo) the keys add darkness, thickness, and a new layer of complexity to an already complex music.

Unlike Dream Theater, who draws more on the then very popular shredder movement (led by Yngwie Malmsteen and Steve Vai and their gazillion imitators including John Pertucci), Queensryche based their evolution by incorporating Rush and Pink Floyd into their metal. Their progressiveness is, like Devin Townsend's, vertical / harmonic, deriving from layering and composition, rather than horizontal / melodic which defines the complexity of the majority of the Dream Theater school.

Rage for Order also fixed Queensryche's perennial problem of getting mired in mid-tempo, sometimes dragging, drama for way too long. Several songs here are driving, on top of the beat rockers which offset the slower sections extremely well. At the same time, side 2's slow burners "London" and "I Will Remember" (perhaps the best Queensryche ballad of all time) still move well displaying the bands much improved songwriting skills.

Two final elements must be mentioned and are sometimes ignored. The extreme importance of harmony vocals in Queensryche's music often gets forgotten because of the power of Tate's lead voice. And yet, without the vocal interaction (which on record is a combination of Tate and Degarmo but which Degarmo pulls off perfectly live) the songs would be missing an essential element. Also, the much improved and composed drumming of Scott Rockenfield is starting to demand attention on this album, and is absolutely essential on the following album of the decade, Operation: Mindcrime.

Side 1 contains more standard melodic power metal, though improved, that had been the basis for Queensryche's previous album the Warning. The opener, Walk in the Shadows, is straight ahead metal where Tate evokes Ronnie James Dio to good effect. The Whisper is a middle eastern tinged piece that is very much reminiscent of Maiden's Powerslave. At the same time, already the prog is finding its way in on the eerie cover Gonna Get Close to You which uses the mechanical rhythms introduced on Warning's NM 156 and also on display later on Rage for Order.

Rage for Order is, in my opinion, the first true prog metal album. That alone earns it high marks, but the great songwriting, stunning performances, and perfect pacing push it near the top. The fact the Queensryche bests this album on their next effort does not diminish from the fact that this is an excellent piece of prog metal.

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Posted Monday, April 06, 2009

Review by Kazuhiro
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4 stars Role as simple Hard Rock when listener considers meaning of this album for Queensryche. Or, it might be understood that it is Rock album that contains a lot of parts where this album was counted very in total if it catches based on the flow in the 80's that Hard Rock and Heavy Metal caused.

If some respects are considered, it is a point to have appointed Neil Kernon to this album as a producer. And, a progressive, Kon futuristic lyrics and idea that chases the flow from the debut album and reaches with this album. And, guitar player's Chris DeGarmo makes remarks on the production of this album. These elements might surely have remarkably told the listener the revolution as the band.

Chris DeGarmo is said, "The sample of various sounds was recorded by digital and reproduced with the keyboard" as a statement for that time. The meaning of the album and the establishment of the concept might be calculated indeed as a band and be done surely. From "The Warning" to might one of big factors to accomplish revolution of band in 2 years those elements

And, the fact that appoints Neil Kernon to this album. The band might not have been at least requesting work to go to Neil Kernon by "Dokken" and "Autograph" as a real intention of the band. Arrangement and composition of idea and tune that should be done as band with this album. Those points are indeed calculated.

This album might not have been approved only by the part of advancement when thinking about the flow from which advancement and the revolution were requested as a band. Of course at that time, the meaning of various ideas, machine parts, and lyrics might have been considered to do the idea concretely. However, Neil Kernon that does good work in initial Queen exists. And, the directionality of the music that the band thought about. They might not at least follow the part of classics and there be a fact not approved either. And, when it started this album, the band might have been considering various possibilities. Details from "The Warning" to this album might have surprised the listener as music of the band that had evolved surely. Not only the part of simple Hard Rock and Heavy Metal but also these albums that completely united a progressive element as a tune remarkably showed what should be of Rock in the future that the band held at the same time as succeeding as a music character of Queensryche at that time.

Arrangement as emotional lyrics and Rock straight of "Walk In The Shadows". Or, it has a beautiful melody and a moving arrangement "I Dream In Infrared". And, it progresses while taking the rhythm of the shuffle "The Whisper". A digital part is already included in the tune and has offered the listener the evolution of the band. Kon a very futuristic "Gonna Get Close To You" digital sound has been taken to the tune. It might be a part where the band has surely exceeded the region as Rock Band. The idea has succeeded. "London" and "Screaming In Digital" that establishes the directionality of music at that time as the band might be elements that surely showed the directionality of the album. The performance that they had done told the listener to have transformed to the band by which the band had a completely progressive flow.

The music of Queensryche in the 80's was offering the listener the flow that advanced surely. As for these elements, I will be able surely to feel the process of advancement exactly. And, evolving for them might have been an act of some nature. And, the flow is connected with the work that should be able to be called their one tops by "Operation:Mindcrime".

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Posted Sunday, October 18, 2009

Review by Sinusoid
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3 stars If nothing else, RAGE FOR ORDER is a fine metal release that's superior than most of its peers at the time. It's more melodic than thrash metal, and more impressive than glam metal. Still, I can't shake off the Maidenisms here; Queensryche sounds like Iron Maiden right down to the epic operatic vocals, just with glossier production.

Most of all, I hear little more than a good metal album with progressive parts being sporadic here at best. The rally cry chorus in ''We Are the Rebellion'' and the general epicness flooding ''Neue Regal'' are the highlight tracks, although prog fans will also enjoy ''London'' and ''Surgical Strike''. ''Screaming in Digital'' has some really off-kilter rhythms, but the rest of the album is standard metal tracks.

If you need a metal fix, RAGE FOR ORDER is good for that. For prog metal, this album isn't quite there especially knowing that there's MASTER OF PUPPETS that was released around that time and knowing PERFECT SYMMETRY and IMAGES AND WORDS are to come. It doesn't make me cringe, and makes me smile.

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Posted Monday, September 13, 2010

Review by siLLy puPPy
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4 stars RAGE FOR ORDER is the third release (counting the debut EP) from QUEENSRYCHE and the point in their discography where they decided to break away from the blatant NWOBHM influences and started to incorporate many progressive elements to their music. These elements include liberal use of keyboards and more social and political lyrics with an overall futuristic feel to the album. Very cutting edge for a metal band in 1986. Looking at the photo of the band in the liner notes they look like a typical glam metal band of the era but they were anything but.

This band was strong from the start always writing well crafted songs with adrenoline soaked energy to drive them hard and heavy. Geoff Tate's vox box is still the star with the chugging riffs (still of NWOBHM influence) but the unorthodox sound effects and keyboards take a greater role in the ideas and song structures. Although I wouldn't call this full-fledged progressive metal I would call it a sort of proto-prog metal where the band was in transition from their earlier sound to that which would be more developed on OPERATION: MINDCRIME. Still for me this is a solid release where despite seeming like it hasn't developed its full potential I still find almost every track memorable.

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Report this review (#800231) | Posted by FragileKings | Saturday, August 04, 2012 | Review Permanlink

4 stars Rage For Order was the second full-length studio album by the Seattle based Progressive Metal band Queensr˙che. It was released 1986 and is quite a curious album that is both hailed by some fans as a masterpiece and condemned by other fans as a forgettable transitional period. Initially it may ... (read more)

Report this review (#755290) | Posted by Gentlegiantprog | Saturday, May 19, 2012 | Review Permanlink

5 stars This is 1986 in Seattle and this is heavy metal. Considered as a classic, "Rage For Order" is included in most lists of best metal albums of all-time. I agree with that, but I think this is derogatory for this album. This is progressive metal at birth. The insiration of the band is phenomenal ... (read more)

Report this review (#299481) | Posted by DeKay | Friday, September 17, 2010 | Review Permanlink

5 stars who would have thought that a typical Seattle US power metal band would transform into an intellectually, politicaly oriented, progressive band... it took many years for Rage For Order to be appreciated... let's not forget that it was released in 1986, when glam/ hair rock was dominant, ... (read more)

Report this review (#86339) | Posted by toolis | Wednesday, August 09, 2006 | Review Permanlink

5 stars Summer, 1986. Geez, Queensryche sure takes a LONG time to make their albums. It's been almost two long years since they shocked the music world, uh, okay, since they shocked ME with The Warning. The 1984 release was a musical masterpiece that, in my opinion, was going to be hard to top. But man, ... (read more)

Report this review (#85149) | Posted by MrMan2000 | Sunday, July 30, 2006 | Review Permanlink

5 stars Queensryche's second full-length studio album Rage For Order takes the Metallic sound of 1984's The Warning, tones it down a shade and injects some Progressive structure and melodic keyboard and strings to evolve the sound. Rage For Order is an unsung Masterpiece by the guys from Seattle and ... (read more)

Report this review (#82651) | Posted by Jon_Mc | Tuesday, July 04, 2006 | Review Permanlink

3 stars This album contains much more variety than its two predecessors, but still half of the songs are plain heavy metal, somewhere between Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. The highlights are without doubt the "slower" songs: "I Dream In Infra Red", "The Whisper", "The Killing Words", "Neue Regel", "Lon ... (read more)

Report this review (#66284) | Posted by zaxx | Monday, January 23, 2006 | Review Permanlink

4 stars The two ESSENTIAL CDs for Queensryche ARE: Rage For Order AND Operation Mindcrime. I spent the day doing military training records listening to Rage For Order......... by the end of the day I was hooked. The only thing that unhooked me at THAT time was Operation Mindcrime. Although I d ... (read more)

Report this review (#65075) | Posted by | Tuesday, January 17, 2006 | Review Permanlink

5 stars Rage For Order, well where do I start? The title is cool. The opening song Walk in the Shadows slams you into the beginning of the album. The whisper has an amazing intro and that great time 6/8. The whispering during the chorus adds so much atmosphere. Which is probably the best word to descr ... (read more)

Report this review (#50214) | Posted by | Thursday, October 06, 2005 | Review Permanlink

4 stars I will be very brief about this album-an album so very ahead of its time-it is so fresh like it was released today!-an excellent paradigm of expanding the limits of music and especially the limits of heavy metal genre-one of the best and underrated by die hard metal fans,at least in my country then, ... (read more)

Report this review (#49154) | Posted by | Thursday, September 29, 2005 | Review Permanlink

4 stars Amazing album. I would call this "cold metal" as it contains some guitar elements inspired of Iron Maiden and some the synth style of 80s cold wave. Lots of excellent songs like 'I dream in infrared', 'The killing words', 'Surgical strike', 'Neue regel' and 'I will remember'. A very dark and t ... (read more)

Report this review (#48984) | Posted by | Wednesday, September 28, 2005 | Review Permanlink

5 stars Rage for order... This album is maybe the most futuristic the last 25 years..It's atmosphere is so sick and just coming from the future.The album starts with a masterpiece called "Walk In The Shadows" in which you hear how well was the band at those times."Killing Me With Words" is a good one ... (read more)

Report this review (#44308) | Posted by | Friday, August 26, 2005 | Review Permanlink

5 stars as a huge fan of the band it is not easy to suggest that this album is even more brilliant than mindcrime..but it is. It is darker, more vague..sinister even. Not a bad song on here and most..such as screaming in digital are pure GENIUS. This is one of the best albums of that era, one that is ... (read more)

Report this review (#38854) | Posted by | Friday, July 08, 2005 | Review Permanlink

5 stars asking someone if rage for order is good is like asking a man if he likes to have sex with leticia casta. having recorded one ep and one full album ( official recordings) that created a whole scene ( us power metal) queensryche gave us in 1986 one of the greatest albums of our music (rock/metal) ... (read more)

Report this review (#36183) | Posted by | Saturday, June 11, 2005 | Review Permanlink

5 stars To my opinion the best prog album of the band.If their 2nd was 1 step forward from their EP this one is 1 mile away from all the metal-hard rock scene of the 80's!It's dark futuristic sound was never repeated by anyone.Genius work and a bigger musical risc than the next 2 albums,though I love ... (read more)

Report this review (#23533) | Posted by | Sunday, September 05, 2004 | Review Permanlink

4 stars Well, I should have rated it 5 stars instead, but I am not that happy with the production quality. I am still thinking that it could have been much better in the production. Overall, when the first I heard RFO, this was my least favorite Queensryche's record. The mood and my feeling toward thi ... (read more)

Report this review (#23531) | Posted by | Friday, June 25, 2004 | Review Permanlink

4 stars A magnificent album,perhars of similar value with "Operation:Mindcrime". Queensryche here experiment with more keyboards and atmospheres than "The Warning".Songs are now more prog rock than metal,and Tate is giving some of his finest perfomances here,just listen to "I Dream In Infrared","The K ... (read more)

Report this review (#23530) | Posted by | Monday, June 14, 2004 | Review Permanlink

5 stars here comes masterpiece #1 ! first, there has been a real revolution in the sound of the band which comes closer to 80's era Rush... then the songwriting improves again as the musical skills of every musician... but I do remember how the matal audience took this album back then, it was a disgrace for ... (read more)

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