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Listening diary 16th January, 2021: Cave In - Jupiter (alternative rock/post-hardcore, 2000)

I think I've grown in appreciation of this since getting into the similarly styled Hum this year, although I've always enjoyed it to some degree. It's a brilliant change from their (not to my taste) debut, essentially playing a kind of spacey and surreal alternative rock that's big on choruses and memorability. But it's that kind of memorability that mean this can get stuck in your head in a bad way at times - at least that's how I've felt about it in the past. On this listen I didn't really feel that at all, and I thoroughly enjoyed the way they construct melodies, even if the songs here are all a bit similar.

7.4 (6th listen)

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Jupiter is the second studio album recorded by CAVE IN and it is a great album. CAVE IN started as a metalcore band with their debut album Until Your Heart Stops but on Jupiter they played a progressive rock and space rock style. Jupiter is very atmospheric and it has great instrumental parts. Unlike the previous record the vocals are mostly sung with the only screamed vocals being on the song Big Riff. The opening track Jupiter and Requiem are my favorites on the album with the former being catchy and short and the later being the longest track on the record. I love CAVE IN and I enjoy all of their material. Want some good progressive rock that's not too fancy? Or maybe you want nice atmospheric space rock? Either way, the record is great in both aspects. Highly recommended.

Now I've been a fan of Cave In for a whilst, but when they disappeared?and then came back, I wasn't even aware of their reunion. So in their return, I decided to give this album a go, due to the fact it's a bit of a return to form and?it's a new Cave In album basically?and I'm a little debated?

The sound these guys make on this album is a bit different to their previous efforts, and is a very dramatic step away from my favourite album of theirs, "Antenna." There is a very noisy atmosphere to this album, which hasn't really been heard on their previous albums in this amount of detail. Yes, they are known for using their instruments at times in very interesting ways, but there is a very noisy texture behind all these songs.

I did enjoy this album a good bit, but to be honest, it's not Cave In's strongest in my opinion, and I know Cave In fans will slit my throat for this, but I do prefer these guys as a very interesting melodic rock band rather than just a common post hardcore noisy metalcore band. Antenna really had to be one of the most interesting rock albums of the last decade, because the songs where really well put together?but there was something else behind it. This album, has been done before, and it's been done better.

This album to me is very similar to The Flaming Lips most recent album Embryonic. A big step in the next direction, incorporating a massive experimental side to the band, and bringing noise rock and other influences into the mould, and really experimenting with sound. Now I didn't get the album when I first album when I first heard it, but now it's grown on me (maybe this is what this album will do to me).

This album has the exact same formula. There is seeds of their own sound, but now there is a very noisy wall around it. The production is done in a very odd way, where sometimes the noise element can overshadow the songs themselves. Now in The Flaming Lips Embryonic it was interesting to hear this because the noise was rather beautiful at times. But in this album, the noise can at times can be almost overpowering (not too Merzbow, but enough to take away from the actual songs). I also feel that the album seems to get weaker as you listen to it.

Now I'm not going to lampoon this album completely. I did really like it, and would say it's a great release from the band, and there are some real amazing moments on this album. But I'm afraid that this band that I once loved might end up becoming some obscure hipster feeding machine, where all songwriting ability has been lost in order to entertain the hipsters with beeps and noises rather than actual songs. At times I did feel like I was listening to some pish Pitchfork recommended generic indie band. I do respect this album a lot, because it does have a real album feel to it. The songs run into each other very well and do have grea atmospheres at times. The fact that it's just over half an hour is a bonus as well.

1. White Silence ? I love how this song is almost anthemic in its' approach. A very odd way to start an album, but great nonetheless. 9/10

2. Serpents ? Great riff in this song. Love the hardcore punk feel to it. Great vocals in the song. Best song on the album in my opinion 9/10

3. Sing My Loves ? Pretty cool noisy intro. I love the Mastodon feel of the song, reminds me of the song Seabeast. I love the build ups throughout. The only problem I have with this song is that I can barely make out the clean vocals. It's not that the vocals aren't there; it's just that I can't really make out what Stephen is saying. The song also is a bit too long I feel. I love Calebs vocals in the song though. The noise rock elements are really interesting too. 8/10

4. Vicious Circles ? This song does have a pretty killer chorus. The crazy guitar noises in this song are the real marvel to behold in this song. 7/10

5. Centered ? The instrumentation and timing of this song is pretty killer. Great vocals and a killer chorus. I also love how the song ends and fades into the next track. 7/10

6. Summit Fever ? There is a pretty killer groove in this song. Nice use of vocals. The production really does add to the gigantic sound of the song. 7/10

7. Heartbreaks, Earthquakes ? Sounds a bit like a Beatles song on acid and ketamine. The song is pretty trippy, but it does sound like a nightmare of a trip. The only flaw I have with this song is that it does at time sound a bit like a "hipster" indie band trying to be all arty and noisy?but if you consider that it sounds like Panic At The Disco (Pretty Odd ere) played by Lightning Bolt is a positive thing, then you may enjoy this song just a little more. 7/10

8. Iron Decibels ? I do like how minimalistic this song is. Some of the instrumental sections are pretty interesting in the song, but the vocals let it down a bet to be honest. 6/10

9. Reanimation ? One of the best songs on the album. I love the nice acoustic sound throughout. I hate how the song (and the album itself) ends with no real warning or care. 8/10

CONCLUSION: All in all, this is a great album. I'm really torn with it at times, and giving the score I'm giving is a bit of a push forward, but to be honest, I do fear these guys might end up embracing a style which really doesn't belong to them. I love experimentation in music, but that doesn't mean that your songwriting ability has to suffer due to it. These guys can still write songs, but there are moments on this album which do sound lie

6.9/10

Cave In is another one of those excellent bands that I've learned about while being a collaborator on the Prog Metal Team here on ProgArchives. Originally, I wasn't all that impressed with the band's direction while listening to their later releases like Antennas or White Silence. Luckily, things quickly turned for the better once I discovered Jupiter!

This is one of those amazing albums that get stuck in one's head from the first time you hear it and plants the seeds for the repeated listens. Beyond the glorious opening title track which I feel is way too short for it's good, there are quite a few other highlights well worth checking out. In The Stream Of Commerce was another early highlight that that really stood out during the initial spins of the record and I would highly recommend this track for anyone who is otherwise unfamiliar with Cave In and their sound.

Even if the rest of the album is not as catchy at first, repeated spins will make you realize just how gorgeous performances on tracks like Innuendo And Out The Other and Requiem really are, which in return will make you realize how well this album holds together as a whole. It is the lengthy compositions like these two that are the undisputed heroes of Jupiter and feature pretty much everything I enjoy within the band's style in a nutshell. Lengthy experimental grooves with wailing guitar sounds and laid back drum foundation with beautiful vocals soaring over the instrumental arrangements.

I highly recommend this album to fans of groovy rock music with only a pinch of experimental metal added into the mix. Just give this album a spin and I'm sure that you'll be hitting that repeat button for a weeks to come, I know that I certainly did!

***** star songs: Jupiter (3:17) In The Stream Of Commerce (5:28) Innuendo And Out The Other (6:11)

**** star songs: Big Riff (6:54) Brain Candle (3:28) Requiem (9:02) Decay Of The Delay (4:15) New Moon (5:42)

This album I have always wanted to review, because it is a real look back into the past for me.

I admit it. I really did like Cave In when this album was released. Their was 2 singles from it which I absolutely loved and had great music videos. But this album received a very mixture of reactions from people when it was released. And I mean a lot of mixed reactions.

Now this album marks a step forward in the Cave In sound, where the band adopted a more mature, contemporary and softer sound. To be honest I prefer this to their earlier sound, but there's not a very over the top dramatic difference, especially not one to go completely OTT over. But fans did.

Oddly enough this album did really well. Critics praised for a successful transformation and to be honest, the passion was still their?but of course, metal purists aren't happy unless there's some stupid screaming vocals in their (Opeth is a prime example). Now I like early Cave In?and new Cave In, but this period is probably my preferred era, because I believe their song writing skills had really been discovered.

Now the sound of the album does still have qualities of their older material, e.g. the post metal sounding atmospheric moments, long songs with massive trip out sections and having songs with quite odd arrangements at times. If anything this sounds like rock with no boundaries really. When listening to this album, I hear a very strong Smashing Pumpkins vibe. I'm not saying that this may be a very strong influence of the band, but there's a definite musical freedom that both bands share similarities with (especially in some of the guitar riffs and arrangements).

All the vocals in the album are cleans, mainly due to the fact bassist Caleb does no vocals. Stephens approach to vocals this time around is a lot more melodically driven too. And lyrically, its nonsensical, but there is a certain poetic flow to the lyrics, and I think there may be some meaning to some of these songs.

1. Stained Silver - What an intro to the album. Epic chorus, great riffs and some pretty cool lyrics. Probably one of my all-time favourite Cave In songs. 10/10

2. Inspire - I remember when the video for this song came out, I really loved it. And even today I still love it. An amazing simple groovy dark riff with contrasts the poppy side to the song. Cave In are the masters at mixing dark and light. I also love the hidden psychedelics too. 10/10

3 Joy Opposites - I was kind of forgetting this song before listening to it again, and I'm ashamed of even thinking of trying to forget this song. One of their best and most beautiful choruses. Some of the lyrics are a bit iffy, but overall the song is pretty amazing. 9/10

4. Anchor - Probably one of the most darkest pop songs their ever has been. Such a great song, with one catchy as hell chorus and a pretty cool arrangement. There is also a music video for this song, which I highly recommend watching. There is also some great lyrics in this song. 10/10

5. Beautiful Son - It's funny. This reminds me of a Drake Bell song (with the added minor chords added in now and then). The chorus ruins this song I think though. The rest is cool though. In fact theirs moments of this song I really like. 6/10

6. Seafrost - The intro reminds me of a post rock instrumental, mixed with some od Animal Collective beauty. Then an evil bass riff comes in. Out of all the songs on the album, this song is the most reminiscent of their older stuff (basically long and trippy). Ok maybe this song is a bit too long and maybe a bit too trippy for some, but I like it. I especially love the noisy ending (which reminds me of something from The Mars Volta's Frances The Mute). The vocals in the song are really nice too. 8/10

7. Rubber & Glue - One of the oddest pop songs I have ever heard. With a really catchy verse, and a pretty cool groovy guitar riff, the chorus is quite an odd eclectic and slightly dark take on the song?but it still all fits together incredibly well. The only negative part about the song is the middle 8, which I'm not the biggest fan of. 9/10

8. Youth Overided - Probably the most consistent and poppy song on the album. Flawless in my opinion. Definitely one of the strongest songs, yet its very underlooked, which is a shame, cause it's an amazing song. I also love the lyrics of this song. Great vocals in the song too. Beautiful arrangement throughout. 10/10

9. Breath Of Water - This is another one of the touch and go moments on the album. I'm really not the biggest fan of this song, but I have to admit, some moments are pretty cool. There is a really cool epic feel to the song, but it's let down slightly at times. The verses are also miles better than the chorus, and to be honest, the chorus lets the song down a bit (a similar formula to that of Beautiful Son). Although listening to the song again, I'm starting to get used to the chorus. 8/10

10. Lost In The Air - Ok, I was wrong. This is the poppiest song on the album. What a catchy chorus. I love the cool Tom Morello esque guitar noises in the verse. I just love this song so much. 10/10

11. Penny Racer - Another short pop moment on the album. And to be honest, it's these songs that are the strongest on the album. Such a great chorus, with some interesting lyrics. It's funny, this song sounds like a rock 'n roll parody, played by Hawkwind. Great spaciness in the song. Oh and the guitar solo is as cheesy as ever. 10/10

12. Woodwork - Some pretty cool lyrics in this song (I have to admit, they can use words great at times). Great chorus, with a nice message in it. A more experimental song. Still contemporary, but a bit more free in its structure and interpretation. Great ending to the album. 9/10

CONCLUSION: Some moments aren't the best, and some let the album down a bit, although I' d admit, their isn't really a forgettable song on the album. But overall, this album will always have a special place in my heart. Not a masterpiece, but pretty damn close.

8.3/10

A little bit closer to a more atmospheric Third Eye Blind with sludge riffs than anything resembling metalcore, "Jupiter" is the album that significantly altered Cave In's style for the better. Running the gamut from moody to inspiring, this is an album that's appropriately cosmic in scope while having a very human core. Like many Cave In albums, it suffers from a few songs that drag on too long as well as some occasionally downright ridiculous lyrics, but this serves as a fantastic entry point for anyone looking to get into this band as well as a fine addition to any space rock lover's collection, thanks to great hooks, emotional vocals that never become whiny and appropriately celestial production.

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