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The Dark Elf
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Posted: July 19 2015 at 11:27 |
This is one of those discussions where one-size-does-NOT-fit-all. I would say Peter Gabriel was in fact more creative as a solo composer/performer primarily because he had to concentrate his skills on individual songs, rather than meander through 10 to 20 minute long labyrinthine permutations. The songs from his solo career (primarily those from 1975 through the 80s) are more personal, not some lunatic flight of mythological mayhem. Ian Anderson, however, is a different story. The output between 1968 and 1979 was with a band of friends and close acquaintances (no matter if it was Bunker or Barlow, for instance). It is obvious there was more input from each band member, even though Ian was principal songwriter, and Tull flourished. Once Anderson relegated the band to union wage scale and used hired hands with no input, the output dropped diametrically in quality. The only resurgence is in the album Crest of a Knave, which features Martin Barre's guitar over Ian's flute. There is also the idea others expressed of a musical artist's prime. Very few performers are consistently great over a career that in some cases lasted 50 years. They resurrect Mick Jagger and Keith Richards from the tomb every few years, but they peaked in 72 with Exile on Main Street. Pete Townsend hasn't written anything worthwhile for 30 years, yet he keeps touring with The Who even though the band members I most enjoyed are dead. They trot out the waxen effigy of Paul McCartney, and it is very ironic that the "Paul is dead" rumors occurred in the late 60s -- I would suggest those rumors have finally come to pass.
Edited by The Dark Elf - July 19 2015 at 11:31
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dr wu23
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Posted: July 19 2015 at 11:29 |
For the most part I have to agree with you that after the bands break up many solo artists just don't have the same spark of creativity in writing good material. The combination of multiple ideas and points of view are probably what makes the sum greater than the individual players. Coming to mind right away are Paul Simon, Plant , Gabriel, and Sting.....while I do like much of their solo output I would rather listen to their earlier band(collaborative) music .
Edited by dr wu23 - July 19 2015 at 11:41
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HackettFan
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Posted: July 19 2015 at 18:30 |
I would say at first blush that Hackett's solo stuff might be an exception, because I do feel that he has a good body of work that measures up well against Old Genesis. However, there have been creative contributions from his more steady band members, particularly Nick Magnus and Roger King. Rob Townsend takes the liberty to improvise on some of his soprano sax passages. He's had some very excellent people he's worked with throughout his albums, which makes them something other than true solo efforts in the strictest sense. His true solo albums have come mainly with classical guitar albums like Momentum, which I think is fabulous. On the other hand, GTR was less than its parts, so while we wonder about all the solo efforts that yielded something less than optimal, we shouldn't overlook the many group efforts out there that didn't work out too well either.
Adrian Belew is one who has been both an excellent band member and an excellent solo artist.
Edited by HackettFan - July 19 2015 at 18:35
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progaardvark
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Posted: July 20 2015 at 07:58 |
I would have to say that this is a difficult subject to quantify without some time-consuming analysis. A lot of these solo outings have taken place during a transition in prog rock composition quality (late 1970s going into the 1980s), sometimes simultaneously while the parent band transitions into more "radio-friendly" material. To get a more accurate judgment would require solo outings to take place around the band's peak creativity period. I can't think of very many that would fit this situation. On the other hand, it might be more fair to compare solo outings with albums from the parent band that were released closest to each other. Second, what motivations were behind the solo outings? Are all solo outings going to be prog rock in a style similar to the parent band? Probably not. Third, as HackettFan has mentioned, most solo outings are not composed in a vacuum (except for the few one-person bands out there, myself included). Input from different people sometimes gives the music a different sound, sometimes different enough that it's hard to make a fair comparison with the soloist's parent band. It's not just other musicians, but sound engineers, producers, co-writers, etc. I'm sure there are some solo outings that can be judged to be weaker than their parent band (and vice versa), but it seems to be me that in a lot of cases it's almost like comparing apples and oranges. I will agree that in some cases, usually the best material from each member gets accepted in a band environment, weeding out weaker material. That's not always the case though. Some bands have one or more dominant members that "hog" the contributions and don't allow some members to contribute more fairly. Bands are not necessarily run like democracies.
Edited by progaardvark - July 20 2015 at 07:58
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Posted: July 20 2015 at 10:40 |
The following is copy of the first page of PA artists list for discographies under the letter B, which I think is one of the more representative collection of artists as either in groups or as solo individuals. This is not meant to be definitive. Please look through the entire PA listing A through Z for yourself, and note the disparity between artists as musical groups or solo performers. | Style | Country | B F | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Estonia | BAALBEK | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Argentina | BABA YAGA | Krautrock | Germany | BABADAG | Prog Folk | Poland | BABAU & I MALEDETTI CRETINI, IL | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BABE RUTH | Heavy Prog | United Kingdom | BABILS | Psychedelic/Space Rock | Belgium | BABLICON | RIO/Avant-Prog | United States | BABY GRANDMOTHERS | Psychedelic/Space Rock | Sweden | BABY WHALE | Prog Folk | Multi-National | BABYLON | Symphonic Prog | United States | BACAMARTE | Symphonic Prog | Brazil | BACCINI, SOPHYA | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BACHDENKEL | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United Kingdom | BACIO DELLA MEDUSA, IL | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BACK DOOR | Jazz Rock/Fusion | United Kingdom | BACK WHEN | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BACKHAND | Crossover Prog | Venezuela | BACKNEE HORN | Krautrock | Israel | BACKSTREET ROMEOS | Psychedelic/Space Rock | Germany | BACKYARDS | Neo-Prog | France | BAD ALCHEMY | Eclectic Prog | United States | BAD SALAD | Progressive Metal | Brazil | BAD STATISTICS | Krautrock | New Zealand | BADGE, THE | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BADGER | Heavy Prog | United Kingdom | BADIROV, VLADIMIR | Eclectic Prog | Uzbekistan | BADWATER FIRE COMPANY | Crossover Prog | United States | BAFFODORO | Post Rock/Math rock | Italy | BAG | Eclectic Prog | France | BAGSBY, DAVID | Eclectic Prog | United States | BAHARI, AGAH | Progressive Metal | Iran | BAIKAL | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United States | BAINBRIDGE, DAVE | Crossover Prog | United Kingdom | BAINBRIDGE, HARVEY | Progressive Electronic | United Kingdom | BAIRD, KEN | Crossover Prog | Canada | BAIRY, HERBERT F | Krautrock | Germany | BAK | Experimental/Post Metal | Australia | BAKER GURVITZ ARMY | Heavy Prog | United Kingdom | BAKER, AIDAN | Progressive Electronic | Canada | BAKERLOO | Proto-Prog | United Kingdom | BAKERY | Heavy Prog | Australia | BAKMAK | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Germany | BAKU | Crossover Prog | Germany | BAKU LLAMA | Eclectic Prog | United States | BALANCE OF POWER | Progressive Metal | United Kingdom | BALESTRACCI, FRANCK | Eclectic Prog | France | BALESTRAZZI, SIMON | Progressive Electronic | Italy | BALISET | Heavy Prog | United States | BALLETTIROSADIMACCHIA | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BALLETTO DI BRONZO, IL | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BALLO DELLE CASTAGNE, IL | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BALLOON | Heavy Prog | Netherlands | BALLOON ASTRONOMY | Neo-Prog | United States | BALMORHEA | Post Rock/Math rock | United States | BALMUNG, THE | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BALTIC SEA, THE | Post Rock/Math rock | United States | BALZER, ANDRE | Crossover Prog | France | BAMBIBANDA E MELODIE, LA | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BAMBIR / THE BAMBIR | Prog Folk | Armenia | BANANA | Symphonic Prog | Argentina | BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BAND OF RAIN | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United Kingdom | BANDA DO CASACO | Prog Folk | Portugal | BANDA DO SOL | Crossover Prog | Brazil | BANDA ELÁSTICA | RIO/Avant-Prog | Mexico | BANDHADA | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Chile | BANDVIVIL | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Japan | BANFI, BAFFO | Progressive Electronic | Italy | BANGLADEAFY | Post Rock/Math rock | United States | BANGTOWER | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Multi-National | BANKS, PETER | Jazz Rock/Fusion | United Kingdom | BANKS, TONY | Crossover Prog | United Kingdom | BANZAI | Symphonic Prog | Belgium | BARABBA | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BARAKA | Heavy Prog | Japan | BARBAJA, MARIO | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BARBARO | Eclectic Prog | Hungary | BARCA DO SOL, A | Prog Folk | Brazil | BARCELONA TRACTION | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Spain | BARCLAY JAMES HARVEST | Crossover Prog | United Kingdom | BARDENS' MIRAGE, PETER | Jazz Rock/Fusion | United Kingdom | BARDENS, PETER | Prog Related | United Kingdom | BARDO POND | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United States | BARICENTRO, IL | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Italy | BARING TEETH | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | United States | BARK PSYCHOSIS | Post Rock/Math rock | United Kingdom | BARKER, NICKLAS | Crossover Prog | Sweden | BARN OWL | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United States | BARNABÉ, ARRIGO | RIO/Avant-Prog | Brazil | BARNACLED | RIO/Avant-Prog | United States | BARNUM'S FREAK | Crossover Prog | Italy | BAROCK PROJECT | Neo-Prog | Italy | BARON | Crossover Prog | United Kingdom | BARONESS | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BAROQUE | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BAROT,RANJIT | Jazz Rock/Fusion | India | BARR | Prog Folk | Sweden | BARRACUDA TRIANGLE | Eclectic Prog | Sweden | BARRE, MARTIN | Crossover Prog | United Kingdom | BARREN EARTH | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | Finland | BARRET TRIO, DAVID | Heavy Prog | Canada | BARRETT & CLIVE NOLAN, NICK | Neo-Prog | United Kingdom | BARRETT ELMORE | Psychedelic/Space Rock | Sweden | BARRETT, SYD | Prog Related | United Kingdom | BARRICADE | RIO/Avant-Prog | France | BARROCK | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BARROQUEJON | Crossover Prog | Chile | BARSTOOL PHILOSOPHERS, THE | Progressive Metal | Netherlands | BARTLETT, KEVIN | Neo-Prog | United States | BARTOL, SEBASTJAN | Crossover Prog | Slovenia | BARTULICA, M.M. | Crossover Prog | Bosnia and Herzegovina | BASIM, AL | Eclectic Prog | Iraq | BASS COMMUNION | Progressive Electronic | United Kingdom | BASS, COLIN | Crossover Prog | United Kingdom | BASSO, LUCIANO | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BASTA! | Eclectic Prog | Italy | BAT CASTLE | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BAT LENNY | Crossover Prog | United States | BATABEAT | Eclectic Prog | Canada | BATISFERA | Crossover Prog | Russia | BATISTA, TOMAS | Prog Folk | Argentina | BATOH, MASAKI | Psychedelic/Space Rock | Japan | BATTERIES, LES | RIO/Avant-Prog | France | BATTESINI, SAULO | Neo-Prog | Brazil | BATTIATO, FRANCO | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BATTISTI, LUCIO | Prog Related | Italy | BATTLE CIRCUS | Heavy Prog | New Zealand | BATTLE OF MICE | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BATTLEFIELDS | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BATTLES | Post Rock/Math rock | United States | BATTLESTATIONS | Post Rock/Math rock | Belgium | BAUDA | Experimental/Post Metal | Chile | BAUER | Crossover Prog | Argentina | BAUHAUS | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Italy | BAULE, ERIC | Heavy Prog | Spain | BAUMANN, PETER | Progressive Electronic | Germany | BAUMSTAM | Krautrock | Germany | BAUTISTA, DANIEL | Progressive Metal | Spain | BAYON | Prog Folk | Germany | BBI | Heavy Prog | France | BE BOP DELUXE | Crossover Prog | United Kingdom | BEAD GAME | Crossover Prog | United States | BEAK | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BEAK> | Krautrock | United Kingdom | BEAM-LIGHT | Crossover Prog | Poland | BEAR BONES LAY LOW | Progressive Electronic | Venezuela | BEAR IS DRIVING | Eclectic Prog | United States | BEARDFISH | Eclectic Prog | Sweden | BEAST PLEASE BE STILL | Post Rock/Math rock | United States | BEAT CIRCUS | Prog Folk | United States | BEATEN BY THEM | Post Rock/Math rock | Multi-National | BEATLES, THE | Proto-Prog | United Kingdom | BEAU DOMMAGE | Prog Related | Canada | BEAUSOLEIL, BOBBY | Progressive Electronic | United States | BEBEK AND PODIUM, ZELJKO | Symphonic Prog | Yugoslavia | BECAUSE OF GHOSTS | Post Rock/Math rock | Australia | BECK, JEFF | Jazz Rock/Fusion | United Kingdom | BECOMING THE ARCHETYPE | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | United States | BEDEDEUM | Prog Folk | Italy | BEDFORD, DAVID | Crossover Prog | United Kingdom | BEDJABETCH | Jazz Rock/Fusion | France | BEDUÍNOS A GASÓLEO | Crossover Prog | Portugal | BEECHER | Experimental/Post Metal | United Kingdom | BEFORE THE EYEWALL | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BEGGARS OPERA | Symphonic Prog | United Kingdom | BEGNAGRAD | RIO/Avant-Prog | Yugoslavia | BEHEADED ZOMBIE | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | Russia | BEHIND THE CURTAIN | Progressive Metal | Denmark | BEHIND THE SUN | Experimental/Post Metal | Israel | BEHOLD...THE ARCTOPUS | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | United States | BEING | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BEING & TIME | Neo-Prog | Japan | BËIRUTH | Psychedelic/Space Rock | Spain | BEKKER, OKKO | Indo-Prog/Raga Rock | Germany | BEL AIR | Neo-Prog | Germany | BELEGOST | Post Rock/Math rock | United States | BELEW, ADRIAN | Eclectic Prog | United States | BELGRAD | Crossover Prog | Poland | BELIEVE | Neo-Prog | Poland | BELIEVER | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | United States | BELL ORCHESTRE | Post Rock/Math rock | Canada | BELL, BOB | RIO/Avant-Prog | Canada | BELL, STEWART | Neo-Prog | United Kingdom | BELLA & PUTANA | Progressive Metal | Chile | BELLA BAND | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Italy | BELLAPHON | Neo-Prog | Japan | BELOW THE SEA | Post Rock/Math rock | Canada | BELTANE | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | Germany | BELTRÁN, CARLOS | Progressive Electronic | Mexico | BELYE FLAGI ZAZHIGAYTE MEDLENNO | Post Rock/Math rock | Russia | BEN | Jazz Rock/Fusion | United Kingdom | BEN LEVIN GROUP | RIO/Avant-Prog | United States | BENAVIDES, ADRIAN | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BENCHIMOL, SERGIO | Eclectic Prog | Brazil | BEND SINISTER | Crossover Prog | Canada | BENKő, LÁSZLÓ | Progressive Electronic | Hungary | BENOIT, BERNARD | Prog Folk | France | BENT KNEE | Crossover Prog | United States | BENZENE RING, THE | Crossover Prog | United States | BERIAU, ROBERT | Symphonic Prog | Canada | BERITS HALSBAND | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Sweden | BERKERS, JERRY | Krautrock | Germany | BERLIONE, IL | Eclectic Prog | Japan | BERNIER, MICHAEL | Eclectic Prog | United States | BERRY, ROBERT | Crossover Prog | United States | BERTOLLA, IVAN | Progressive Metal | Australia | BERTONI, ALESSANDRO | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Italy | BESOMBES, PHILIPPE | Progressive Electronic | France | BETWEEN | Krautrock | Multi-National | BETWEEN 11 | Progressive Metal | Canada | BETWEEN INTERVAL | Progressive Electronic | Sweden | BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | United States | BEWARE OF SAFETY | Post Rock/Math rock | United States | BEYOND CREATION | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | Canada | BEYOND FREQUENCY | Post Rock/Math rock | Brazil | BEYOND THE BRIDGE | Progressive Metal | Germany | BEYOND THE LABYRINTH | Progressive Metal | Belgium | BEYOND TWILIGHT | Progressive Metal | Denmark | BEYOND-O-MATIC | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United States | BEZAR, EMILY | Crossover Prog | United States | BI KYO RAN | Heavy Prog | Japan | BIANCHI, MAURIZIO | Progressive Electronic | Italy | BIBBO, PIERPAOLO | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BIBLE BLACK | Heavy Prog | Japan | BIBLIOTECA DESERTA, LA | Post Rock/Math rock | Italy | BIG BIG TRAIN | Crossover Prog | United Kingdom | BIG BLOCK 454 | RIO/Avant-Prog | United Kingdom | BIG GOODBYE, A | Heavy Prog | United States | BIG PICTURE | Neo-Prog | United States | BIG ROBOT | Progressive Electronic | Norway | BIGELF | Heavy Prog | United States | BIGLIETTO PER L'INFERNO | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BIJELO DUGME | Prog Related | Yugoslavia | BIJOU | Neo-Prog | Spain | BILL IN THE TEA | Post Rock/Math rock | Italy | BILLY MAHONIE | Post Rock/Math rock | United Kingdom | BINARY CODE, THE | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | United States | BIOSPHERE | Progressive Electronic | Norway | BIRDS AND BUILDINGS | Eclectic Prog | United States | BIRDSONGS OF THE MESOZOIC | RIO/Avant-Prog | United States | BIRTH CONTROL | Heavy Prog | Germany | BIRUSHANAH | Experimental/Post Metal | Japan | BISBAYE | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | Canada | BISE DE BUSE | RIO/Avant-Prog | France | BISON B.C. | Experimental/Post Metal | Canada | BITTERS, THE | Heavy Prog | United States | BITTERTOWN | Crossover Prog | Netherlands | BITTOVÁ, IVA | RIO/Avant-Prog | Czech Republic | BJÖRK | Crossover Prog | Iceland | BLACK BOMBAIM | Psychedelic/Space Rock | Portugal | BLACK BONZO | Heavy Prog | Sweden | BLACK CAT BONES | Crossover Prog | United Kingdom | BLACK ENGINE | RIO/Avant-Prog | Italy | BLACK FOREST/BLACK SEA | Post Rock/Math rock | United States | BLACK JESTER | Progressive Metal | Italy | BLACK LADDER | Jazz Rock/Fusion | United States | BLACK LIGHT SECRET | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United Kingdom | BLACK MAGES, THE | Progressive Metal | Japan | BLACK MARKET SEROTONIN | Heavy Prog | United Kingdom | BLACK MATH HORSEMAN | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BLACK MOTH SUPER RAINBOW | Crossover Prog | United States | BLACK MOUNTAIN | Crossover Prog | Canada | BLACK NOODLE PROJECT, THE | Psychedelic/Space Rock | France | BLACK PAGE | Neo-Prog | Japan | BLACK SABBATH | Prog Related | United Kingdom | BLACK SCIENCE | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United States | BLACK SEA | Experimental/Post Metal | Brazil | BLACK SEPTEMBER | Symphonic Prog | United States | BLACK SHEEP WALL | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BLACK SPIRIT | Krautrock | Italy | BLACK SUN AEON | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | Finland | BLACK SYMPHONY | Progressive Metal | United States | BLACK WIDOW | Heavy Prog | United Kingdom | BLACKBIRDS | Krautrock | Germany | BLACKFIELD | Prog Related | Multi-National | BLACKKOUT | Progressive Metal | United States | BLACKMANN LANE | Krautrock | Germany | BLACKMORE'S NIGHT | Prog Folk | United Kingdom | BLACKWATER PARK | Krautrock | Germany | BLACKWAVES | Experimental/Post Metal | Germany | BLAKE, TIM | Progressive Electronic | France | BLAKULLA | Symphonic Prog | Sweden | BLANC, MICHEL | RIO/Avant-Prog | France | BLAND BLADEN | Psychedelic/Space Rock | Sweden | BLANK FOREST | Progressive Metal | Italy | BLANK MANUSKRIPT | Symphonic Prog | Austria | BLAST | RIO/Avant-Prog | Netherlands | BLESING, ALAIN | Jazz Rock/Fusion | France | BLEY, CARLA | Jazz Rock/Fusion | United States | BLEZQI ZATSAZ | Symphonic Prog | Brazil | BLIM | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United Kingdom | BLIND EGO | Neo-Prog | Germany | BLIND GUARDIAN | Progressive Metal | Germany | BLIND ILLUSION | Progressive Metal | United States | BLIND OWL | Neo-Prog | United States | BLINDEAD | Experimental/Post Metal | Poland | BLITURI | RIO/Avant-Prog | Canada | BLITZOIDS, THE | RIO/Avant-Prog | United States | BLIXT | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Multi-National | BLOCCO MENTALE | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BLODWYN PIG | Prog Related | United Kingdom | BLONDE ON BLONDE | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United Kingdom | BLONDIE FOX | Crossover Prog | Italy | BLOOD & TIME | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BLOOD CEREMONY | Heavy Prog | Canada | BLOOD SWEAT & TEARS | Jazz Rock/Fusion | United States | BLOPS | Prog Folk | Chile | BLOQUE | Eclectic Prog | Spain | BLOTTED SCIENCE | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | United States | BLOW UP HOLLYWOOD | Crossover Prog | United States | BLUE DRIFT | Jazz Rock/Fusion | United Kingdom | BLUE EFFECT (MODRÝ EFEKT; M. EFEKT) | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Czech Republic | BLUE GILLESPIE | Progressive Metal | United Kingdom | BLUE MAMMOTH | Neo-Prog | Brazil | BLUE MOTION | Progressive Electronic | Switzerland | BLUE ÖYSTER CULT | Prog Related | United States | BLUE PHANTOM | Psychedelic/Space Rock | Italy | BLUE SAUSAGE INFANT | Progressive Electronic | United States | BLUE SHIFT | Symphonic Prog | United States | BLUE SUN | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Denmark | BLUEBRIDGE QUARTET | Post Rock/Math rock | Sweden | BLUEHORSES | Prog Folk | United Kingdom | BLUENECK | Post Rock/Math rock | United Kingdom | BLUMEN DES EXOTISCHEN EISES | Krautrock | Germany | BLUT AUS NORD | Experimental/Post Metal | France | BLUTMOND | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | Switzerland | BOAT BURNING | Psychedelic/Space Rock | United States | BOB LAZAR STORY, THE | Eclectic Prog | New Zealand | BOBEL | Experimental/Post Metal | Costa Rica | BOCK, WOLFGANG | Progressive Electronic | Germany | BOCQUET, DIDIER | Progressive Electronic | France | BODDY, IAN | Progressive Electronic | United Kingdom | BODIN, TOMAS | Symphonic Prog | Sweden | BODKIN | Heavy Prog | United Kingdom | BODY LOVERS, THE | Post Rock/Math rock | United States | BODY POLITIC, THE | Crossover Prog | Canada | BOFFO, JEAN-PASCAL | Prog Related | France | BOHEMIA | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Czech Republic | BOKAJ RETSIEM | Krautrock | Germany | BOLLENBERG EXPERIENCE, THE | Prog Related | Belgium | BOLT | Heavy Prog | United States | BOLUS | Neo-Prog | Canada | BONACINA,CELINE | Jazz Rock/Fusion | France | BONDAGE | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BONDAGE FRUIT | Zeuhl | Japan | BONDAR & WISE | Symphonic Prog | United States | BONE | RIO/Avant-Prog | Multi-National | BONFIRE | Jazz Rock/Fusion | Netherlands | BONY, FABRICE | Neo-Prog | France | BOOK OF HOURS | Heavy Prog | Sweden | BOOK OF KNOTS, THE | RIO/Avant-Prog | United States | BOOK OF REFLECTIONS | Progressive Metal | Sweden | BOOT LAGOON, THE | Canterbury Scene | United Kingdom | BOOTCUT | Eclectic Prog | Sweden | BOOZ, EMMANUEL | Eclectic Prog | France | BORAY | Crossover Prog | Sweden | BORDERLINE SYNDROME | Eclectic Prog | Greece | BOREDOMS | RIO/Avant-Prog | Japan | BORGIA | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | France | BORKNAGAR | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | Norway | BORN OF OSIRIS | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | United States | BORNIDOL | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BORREANI, GASTON | Progressive Electronic | Italy | BORT, EDUARDO | Eclectic Prog | Spain | BOSCH'S WITH YOU | Post Rock/Math rock | Russia | BOSCHER, XAVIER | Neo-Prog | France | BOSQUES | Psychedelic/Space Rock | Argentina | BOSSK | Experimental/Post Metal | United Kingdom | BOTANIST | Experimental/Post Metal | United States | BOTCH | Tech/Extreme Prog Metal | United States | BOTTEGA DELL'ARTE, LA | Rock Progressivo Italiano | Italy | BOUD DEUN | Jazz Rock/Fusion | United States | BOULE DE SON | Prog Folk | Canada | BOULÉ, CHRISTIAN | Psychedelic/Space Rock | France | BOULLT, LINDSEY | Crossover Prog | United States | BOUNTY 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I would have to say that this is a difficult subject to quantify without some time-consuming analysis. A lot of these solo outings have taken place during a transition in prog rock composition quality (late 1970s going into the 1980s), sometimes simultaneously while the parent band transitions into more "radio-friendly" material. To get a more accurate judgment would require solo outings to take place around the band's peak creativity period. I can't think of very many that would fit this situation. On the other hand, it might be more fair to compare solo outings with albums from the parent band that were released closest to each other. Second, what motivations were behind the solo outings? Are all solo outings going to be prog rock in a style similar to the parent band? Probably not. Third, as HackettFan has mentioned, most solo outings are not composed in a vacuum (except for the few one-person bands out there, myself included). Input from different people sometimes gives the music a different sound, sometimes different enough that it's hard to make a fair comparison with the soloist's parent band. It's not just other musicians, but sound engineers, producers, co-writers, etc. I'm sure there are some solo outings that can be judged to be weaker than their parent band (and vice versa), but it seems to be me that in a lot of cases it's almost like comparing apples and oranges. I will agree that in some cases, usually the best material from each member gets accepted in a band environment, weeding out weaker material. That's not always the case though. Some bands have one or more dominant members that "hog" the contributions and don't allow some members to contribute more fairly. Bands are not necessarily run like democracies.
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I will state plainly the difference between an artist's almost complete control over a group of musicians and that of a group of equally contributing artists. Of course no music exists in a vacuum, but control freak artists such as Wilson and Anderson make it sound that way. It's their musical vision only and, for the most part, it's musically stunted no matter what the caliber of the contributing artists that they employ as 'contributors'. The first thing to disappear is a trademark sound or style of true contributors. Could you image Wilson or Anderson letting the domineering sound of the late Chris Squire into their sterile music? I cannot. Or take the trademark sound of Gilmour out of Floyd. Even the anemic sounding eighties Floyd without Water's still had a distinctive sounding musician. Something that Wilson lacks and Anderson fakes with a Martin Barre sound alike on his TAAP2 and HE albums. As for the Hackett analogy, success is relative. His made something like 20+ solo albums that has sustained him and I'm happy for that, but his biggest success as of late has been Genesis cover concerts in Europe, which he billed as Genesis Revisited for both concerts and albums. The fact that he's covering an old group, his old group, speaks volumes to me. Perhaps it's because the sum was greater than the parts.
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